scambaiting

[alocispepraluger102]

http://www.419eater.com/index.htm

http://forum.419eater.com/forum/

Edited July 10, 2007 by alocispepraluger102

[Dan Gould]

I did this once but not quite in the same manner as he suggests. It was one of those variations on the Nigerian scam in which the individual claims to be able to fix the results of the UK Lotto so that his agent (lucky ME) will be the winner.

I decided for some reason to screw with this guy and wrote a response to the effect that he was an answer to my prayers, that my financial situation was reaching a crisis, and then his email was received and how this proved how our God is a kind and loving one who responds to prayer. So I told him that his proposed division of the money was unacceptable, that despite his claims to the contrary, it was obvious that I would be subject to significant criminal risk, and furthermore that a significant percentage of the winnings would have to go to a Church of my choosing. So I insisted that I receive 60%, with 30% going to the Church and 10% going to him.

The interesting thing was that these people seem to bait their "hook" from one email address but will respond from a second one, and regardless of what you may say in your initial response, the second reply will always be a form letter (kind of like the Russian female scammers who pretend to fall in love with you). So I sent another response that I was terribly disappointed that he had not acknowledged my counter-offer regarding the division of proceeds and insisted that I would have to have, in writing, his agreement to this before I could proceed.

He responded with something like "fine, I agree, now let's move forward" to which I responded that I would not do anything until he had repeated in his message the precise terms I had dictated. Saying "fine" doesn't cut it, I want it in his writing.

At that point he got fed up or recognized that I was fucking with him and stopped responding. So I wasted a bit of his time but I don't think it did much good, and I certainly make him do my bidding the way that website suggests. I do believe that this kind of response does nothing to really scam the scammers. I am sure that they are communicating with dozens of people at any given time, and know full well that getting them to the point of wiring money isn't easily accomplished. They may need 50 or 100 irons in the fire before they see any cash at all, so they can't be surprised if someone is screwing with them. No different than the people who respond but simply don't have the money even if they were total suckers and ready to send it.

[Brownian Motion]

This "anti-scam" site is in itself a scam. Why else would they ask for paypal donations to fund such an inefficient and meaningless attack on scammers?

[Dan Gould]

This "anti-scam" site is in itself a scam. Why else would they ask for paypal donations to fund such an inefficient and meaningless attack on scammers?

Their forum has nearly 50000 topics - isn't that a bit much if its all a "scam"? How can you be so certain, and do you really think that the paypal donation button gets so much action that it covers the cost of the site plus money left over? Obviously the guy is looking for help maintaining the site and is no different from Jim asking for help. This would have to be the single most inefficient "scam" ever created if it relied on the kindness of strangers clicking the "donate" button to make its money.