French Open 2009

[P.L.M]

My sincerest condolences to Roland Garros for having such stupid and dumb-ass spectators. Their behaviour in the game that Nadal lost went beyond negative fanaticism. A fair and polite great champion like Rafa doesn't deserve it.

End of rant.

A

Are you kidding? The same happens to Roger when he wins over Nadal in Madrid from the spanish crowd. To quote you "A fair and Polite" genius like Roger did'nt deserve to have to confront such a "stupid and dumb-ass spectators".

What's your nationality again, EKE BBB?

End of : everything must be put in his right perspective.

And happy to see gentleman Roger win at last in RG.

Go on Roger! (and no, I'm not from Switzerland. Just to happy to have seen all of those borring specialist of "terre battue" beaten by the Gentleman Jim of the tennis.)

[P.L.M]

It's no coincidence that it's the Paris audience who is immortalized on jazz live recordings from the 60's for booing legends such as John Coltrane or Jimmy Giuffre.

You just forget to add that they didn't only boo the two musicians but they also cheer them during the same concerts.

You seem to ignore than people from conservative jazz circle use to go to concert to boo the avant-garde musicians of the time a crusade who ended often with fight with those who love and support them in the same concert.

Listen better to both records (you should have no difficulties with the good hifi that you certainly have) and you will hear it clearly than the applauses conter-attack the booing.

Yep, in this years (the sixties - and it was the same in movie theater about the films of the "Nouvelle-vague), the scene was alive, don't you think?

[rockefeller center]

[Claude]

It's no coincidence that it's the Paris audience who is immortalized on jazz live recordings from the 60's for booing legends such as John Coltrane or Jimmy Giuffre.

You just forget to add that they didn't only boo the two musicians but they also cheer them during the same concerts.

You seem to ignore than people from conservative jazz circle use to go to concert to boo the avant-garde musicians of the time a crusade who ended often with fight with those who love and support them in the same concert.

Listen better to both records (you should have no difficulties with the good hifi that you certainly have) and you will hear it clearly than the applauses conter-attack the booing.

Yep, in this years (the sixties - and it was the same in movie theater about the films of the "Nouvelle-vague), the scene was alive, don't you think?

It sounds like there were two fractions within the audience, competing against each other with their expression of disapproval and approval.

I'm sure that in other countries there was the same difference in opinion on Trane's playing. It's just those people - unlike the Parisians - were polite enough not to disrupt the concerts. You don't hear any whistling on the Miles/Coltrane 1960 concerts recorded in Sweden, Denmark and Germany.

Another example of the french "jazz hooliganism" is the reaction to the Eric Dolphy and Charles Mingus "dialogues" at the Antibes 1960 concert.

Edited June 8, 2009 by Claude

[P.L.M]

It's no coincidence that it's the Paris audience who is immortalized on jazz live recordings from the 60's for booing legends such as John Coltrane or Jimmy Giuffre.

You just forget to add that they didn't only boo the two musicians but they also cheer them during the same concerts.

You seem to ignore than people from conservative jazz circle use to go to concert to boo the avant-garde musicians of the time a crusade who ended often with fight with those who love and support them in the same concert.

Listen better to both records (you should have no difficulties with the good hifi that you certainly have) and you will hear it clearly than the applauses conter-attack the booing.

Yep, in this years (the sixties - and it was the same in movie theater about the films of the "Nouvelle-vague), the scene was alive, don't you think?

It sounds like there were two fractions within the audience, competing against each other with their expression of disapproval and approval.

I'm sure that in other countries there was the same difference in opinion on Trane's playing. It's just those people - unlike the Parisians - were polite enough not to disrupt the concerts. You don't hear any whistling on the Miles/Coltrane 1960 concerts recorded in Sweden, Denmark and Germany.

Another example of the french "jazz hooliganism" is the reaction to the Eric Dolphy and Charles Mingus "dialogues" at the Antibes 1960 concert.

Or, maybe, the reality was than only people who like the way Coltrane was playing came to its concerts.

To spoke so seriously about the french "jazz hooliganism" makes me smile. And to speak about politeness make me yawn.

Jazz is not a "polite music" in my view. Just the contrary.

[Claude]

And to speak about politeness make me yawn.

Jazz is not a "polite music" in my view. Just the contrary.

Next time you go to a jazz concert, start whistling during solos, and when the artists or the rest of the audience complain about your behaviour, tell them jazz is not polite music.

[Dan Gould]

And to speak about politeness make me yawn.

Jazz is not a "polite music" in my view. Just the contrary.

Next time you go to a jazz concert, start whistling during solos, and when the artists or the rest of the audience complain about your behaviour, tell them jazz is not polite music.

Exactly what I was thinking.

[WorldB3]

A case for Federer and Laver for who is best of all time.

good read