are some labels pulling from streaming services?

[David Ayers]

Nothing has vanished so far from any of my playlists, that I have noticed, but some things I am sure I listened to seem to be gone. I just went to look for a new release on Intakt, thinking I had heard at least a recent Sylvie Courvoisier title from Intakt on there: no Intakt releases at all. In one or two other cases I got the impression that a chunk of stuff went awol. Other boutique labels are still being added, I think, but I am wondering if some try it out, see the revenue is extemely low (next to nothing), and pull. I know that ECM micro-manages what it shows, so some material is 'there' but you can't access it, but what I am noticing is not strategic suspension of albums or tracks but (I think) disappearance of whole labels. Has anyody noticed this on their service? My service is Spotify.

[David Ayers]

I now notice that ECM has pulled its titles from Spotify. There are a dozen left they probably missed. Universal classics are still there. I don't use a paid subscription so maybe the stuff is there if you pay, but I wouldn't feel too sure about that. ECM went through a phase of making longer tracks on some CDs unavailable for streaming. Seems that didn't get the results they wanted so they pulled. Hm.

[BillF]

I liked Spotify in its early days, but now the intrusive adverts are too much to bear, so I rarely listen. Its main function anyway was to allow me to check out potential album purchases, so now I use brief samples available on other sites. Amazon.com is more likely to offer samples than amazon.uk, but if this fails, allmusic.com is another good source.

[Christiern]

A bird in hand..... etc.

[mjazzg]

Spotify user too. Certainly noticed the ECM 'withdrawals' and also some of the Intakts. But for a free service I'm not about to argue with them. There's still plenty to discover - recently found Aurora by Augusti Fernandez et al.

I also use it for pre-purchase checks if possible and have had fun checking out non-jazz albums from various end-of-year polls - about the only way I keep in touch with dance/indie scenes these days.

There was an interesting piece in the Guardian, i think, recently about Spotify's operating loss this year - can't remember the figure but it was whopping - conclusion seemd to be calling into question their viability for opertaing as is for much longer