l p Posted April 23, 2015 Report Posted April 23, 2015 http://books.google.com/books?id=mvyj8r6puTgC&printsec=frontcover&dq=All+of+me+:+the+complete+discography+of+Louis+Armstrong+/+Jos+Willems.+joker&hl=en&sa=X&ei=vQ8oT4TjB6OA2wXXma3sAg&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=true my hardcover copy doesn't have a cd/lp index. discographies usually have this in the back of the book sorted by label. is my copy missing a section of the book? Quote
lipi Posted April 23, 2015 Report Posted April 23, 2015 I don't believe you're missing anything. My copy does not have a CD/LP index, either. (Though it's ex-library, so if there were some funny loose-leaf last-minute thing they stuck in, I wouldn't be surprised by its being gone.) Quote
l p Posted April 23, 2015 Author Report Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) so, if i wanted to seach this discography for the contents of a cd, for example cd title "Louis Armstrong His All Stars". laserline label, live recordings, which doesn't provide recording dates in the booklet. http://www.discogs.com/Louis-Armstrong-And-His-All-Stars-Earl-Fatha-Hines-Velma-Middleton-Louis-Armstrong-And-His-All-Stars/release/6078195 then how did this genius discographer expect anyone to find the info in his discography? Edited April 23, 2015 by l p Quote
lipi Posted April 23, 2015 Report Posted April 23, 2015 I suspect the discographer would have some choice words for the kinds of labels that don't bother to include any sort of recording dates in their liner notes. You could try digging here a little: http://michaelminn.net/discographies/armstrong/ The recordings on that CD are likely from 1948 or '49, based on the line-up, but I can't tell you more than that, I'm afraid. Quote
John L Posted April 23, 2015 Report Posted April 23, 2015 The Lord Online Discography allows you to do this: Louis Armstrong's All Stars :Louis Armstrong (tp,vcl)Jack Teagarden (tb)Roy Ross (accor)Nicky Tagg (p) unidentified (b) Sidney Catlett (d) Art Ford (announcer) WNEW radio broadcast, 8:35p.m. - 9:30 p.m., New York City, April 26, 1947 Do you know what it means to miss New Orleans (la vcl,*) V-Disc 760, Locomotive (E)ML21012, Joker (It)SM313 Joker (It)SM3131, Saga (E)ERO8014, PAN6913, Kings of Jazz (It)KLJ20002, Ozone 3, Decca (G)PD12006, Family (It)SFR-DP640, Festival (F)ALB144, Dan (J)VC5014, Vik KV128, Elec (Jap)KV128, Classics (F)992 [CD], Lady Day Box (It)LDB03, JUTB (It)3036 [CD], Sound Hills (Jap)8005/16 [CD], Masters of Jazz (F)MJCD184 [CD] Ain't misbehavin' (hs out,la vcl) V-Disc 784, Palm Club (F)PALM05, Ariston (It)12010, Saga (E)PAN 6904, Alamac QSR2436, (F)180.053, Jazz Society (F)67401, Dan (Jap)VC5006, Musidisc (F)JA5102, Boulevard (E)BD3001, Swing House (E)SWH44, Classics (F)992 [CD], Laserlight 15773 [CD], Forlane UCD19002 [CD], Collectors Choice Music CCM4509 [CD], Definitive (And)DRCD11291 [CD] Lover (jt,nt,unidentified-b,sc only) (unissued) Reminiscin' with Louis (includes) [High society] V-Disc 784, Queen (It)Q-004, Dan (Jap)VC5006, Swing House (E)SWH44, Phontastic (Swd)NOST7662, PHONT9308 [CD], Laserlight 15773 [CD], Classics (F)992 [CD], Definitive (And)DRCD11291 [CD] Basin Street blues (jt vcl) (unissued) Muskrat ramble - Note: (*) This title on V-Disc uses this performance by Louis then splices on the Billie Holiday vocal from the Louis Armstrong Carnegie Hall concert of February 8, 1947 (see there for more details about releases). This composite is used on almost all issues. The information listed in "V-Discs" by Richard Sears is incorrect. The date of this broadcast has been listed as February 18, 1947 (Westerberg, Schaap) but Sears' gives the above date from the V-Disc files. Furthermore February 28, 1947 was a Tuesday, not a Saturday. Also on this date but in the afternoon, Louis Armstrong was guest on the "This Is Jazz" radio show which is detailed under that heading in this work. "Reminiscin' with Louis" is a conversation between Art Ford and Louis Armstrong. Before Armstrong begins speaking, one chorus of "High Society" is played by Louis Armstrong (tp) Jack Teagarden (tb) Nick Tagg (p) unidentified (b) Sid Catlett (d).Queen (It)Q-004 titled "Reminiscin' With Louis".Laserlight 15773 [CD] titled "Louis Armstrong And His All-stars" (also part of 3 CD set Laserlight 55554 [CD]); see flwg sessions to April 25, 1950 and "Eddie Condon", "V-Disc All Star Jam Session" for rest of CD.Definitive (And)DRCD11291 [CD] titled "Louis Armstrong - Complete New York Town Hall & Boston Symphony Hall Concerts"; rest of this 3 CD set by Louis Armstrong. [A5775]Add Louis Armstrong Louis Armstrong And His Orchestra :Louis Armstrong (tp,vcl)Bobby Hackett (cnt)Jack Teagarden (tb,vcl)Peanuts Hucko (cl,ts)Ernie Caceres (cl,bar)Johnny Guarnieri (p,cel-1)Al Casey (g)Al Hall (b)Cozy Cole (d) New York, June 10, 1947 D7VB952-2 Jack-Armstrong blues (jt,la vcl) Vic 20-2348, 47-1010, LJM1005, LPM (S)2971, HMV (E)B9819, (F)7EG8065, SG280, 7EMF23, RCA (F)A75382, 430205, FXM3-7241, (G)EPA9566, (Eu)CL89799, Time-Life STL-J08, Camden CAL422, Swinghouse (E)SWH44, VJC 1016-2 [CD], The Entertainers (Eu)CD0250 [CD], Giants of Jazz CD53088 [CD], Laserlight 15773 [CD], Jazz Roots CD56030 [CD], Vintage Jazz Classics VJC1016-2 [CD] D7VB953 Rockin' chair (jt,la vcl) Vic 20-2348, 420/447-0067, EPA5000, LEJ-1, LJM1005, LPM (S)2982, Playboy PB1957, Cam CAL383, (E)CDN112, HMV (E)B9583, RCA (E)RCX1007, (F)430205, FXM3-7241, (G)EPA9566, Col (E)33CX1529, (F)FPX167, (G)90977, The Entertainers (Eu)CD0250 [CD], Giants of Jazz (It)CD53088 [CD], Jazz Roots CD56030 [CD] D7VB954-1 Some day you'll be sorry (la vcl, 1,*) Vic 20-2530, EPAT-1443, LPM1443, VPM6044, HMV (E)B9630, RCA (E)RC24002, HMV (F)SG161, RCA (G)EPA9566, RCA LPM1443, (F)430258, Vik VP180, Franklin Mint GJR002, Phontastic (Swd)Nost7662 D7VB955-2 Fifty-fifty blues Vic 20-2530, 947-0163, LJM1005, LPM (S)2982, VPM6044, HMV (E)B9630, 7EG8065, Cam CAL588, (E)CDN147, RCA (F)430205, (G)EPA9566, The Entertainers (Eu)CD0250 [CD] Note: VJC 1016-2 [CD] issued as "Christmas Jubilee"; rest of CD by others All titles except (*) on Bluebird 66244-2 [CD]. Title from Victor LPM1443 also on RCA International (E)INTS5070. All above titles also on RCA (Jap)RA-13/16, RCA (Jap)RA-16, Giants of Jazz (It)LPJT69, Bluebird 5920-1-RB, 6378-2 [CD], RCA Victor 68682-2 [CD], RCA (Eu)74321846512 [CD], (Eu)ND89279 [CD], Classics (F)1072 [CD], Properbox (E)24 [CD], Bluebird 09026-63846-2 [CD]. [A5799]Add Louis Armstrong Louis Armstrong And His All Stars :Louis Armstrong (tp,vcl)Jack Teagarden (tb,vcl)Barney Bigard (cl)Earl Hines (p)Arvell Shaw (b)Sidney Catlett (d)Velma Middleton (vcl) Broadcast "Empire Room", Los Angeles, March 24-April 3, 1949 When it's sleepy time down south Swinghouse (E)SWH2, Joyce 1135 Panama For Discriminate Collector (It)FDC1017, De (G)PD12008, Joker (It)SM3133, Swing House (E)SWH2, Jazz Society (F)67414, Saga (E)PAN6931, Joyce 1135, Laserlight 15773 [CD] Back o' town blues For Discriminate Collector (It)FDC1017, Saga (E)PAN6931, Laserlight 15773 [CD] Pale moon For Discriminate Collector (It)FDC1017, Swing House (E)SWH2 Don't fence me in Swinghouse (E)SWH2, Laserlight 15773 [CD] Lover (la,bb out) For Discriminate Collector (It)FDC1017, Swinghouse (E)SWH2, Laserlight 15773 [CD] Body and soul For Discriminate Collector (It)FDC1017, Saga (E)PAN6931, Joyce 1135 Note: The above from AFRS Jubilee #339. Those titles on FDC (It)1017 also on Ariston (It)ARI12078, Those titles on Laserlight 15773 [CD] also included in Laserlight 3CD set 55554 [CD]. All above titles also on Storyville (Dan)STCD8232 [CD] titled "Live at the Hollywood Empire 1949", see flwg 3 sessions for rest of CD. [A5802]Add Louis Armstrong Broadcast "Empire Room", Los Angeles, March 24-April 3, 1949 A song was born (la,jt vcl) Swinghouse (E)SWH2 Whispering - Note: Above from AFRS Jubilee #347. both titles on Laserlight 15773 [CD], 55554 [CD], Storyville (Dan)STCD8232 [CD]. Quote
l p Posted April 23, 2015 Author Report Posted April 23, 2015 i'd have some choice words for this discographer if he wasn't dead. a proper book form discography has a 78/45/lp/cd/dvd/video index in the back of the book, even if all the formats were combined together into one index of issues. and in that index, under 'L" the entry of the above cd would be something like: Laserline 15773 Louis Armstrong And His All-Stars April 26, 1947, June 10, 1947, March 24-April 3, 1949 the coltrane discography also has the release name included in the session entry, which makes it even easier/not having to search the index for the release name. the guy probably spent tireless years compiling this thing, and he fails to do an extremely important part of the discography. Quote
jazztrain Posted April 23, 2015 Report Posted April 23, 2015 It's actually quite a nice discography, although not perhaps for your purposes. I've found it to be quite useful. Sometimes publishers restrict the length of books in a way that precludes the inclusion of indices. Quote
l p Posted April 23, 2015 Author Report Posted April 23, 2015 if it's so nice, then please tell me, by looking only at this armstrong book discography, what this vinyl release contains http://www.discogs.com/Louis-Armstrong-Live-Recordings/release/873053 Louis Armstrong ‎– Live Recording Label: Polskie Nagrania Muza ‎– SXL 1158 "Live Recordings At The "Stork Club", New York, 1962" (obviously later than 1962, because it has hello dolly) the only way is to look up each tune in the index, then go to the sessions that contain the tune, and then search for the Muza ‎– SXL 1158 within the session. and most of the tunes on this release were probably performed/recorded 50 times = 50 sessions to look through for each tune. it's insane. or if you think that they're all from one concert, you could make a chart of when all 10 tunes appear on the same live session. that sounds like fun too. here's another one that should be easier, but it's really not. louis armstrong "on the road" laserlight 15798 http://www.discogs.com/Louis-Armstrong-On-The-Road/release/1377517 i now know that it's from one concert. but the only way to find it is to blindly search through the armstrong 'discography' page by page for the magic 15798 number, the font of which, is about 4 or 5. Quote
jazztrain Posted April 23, 2015 Report Posted April 23, 2015 Look at page 297 for Laserlight 15798. At least some of it is from a September 7, 1957 concert at the Orpheum Theater in Seattle, Washington. It took maybe 15 seconds to find this with a search engine which will bring you to that page in a Google book preview. It looks like it's available as an e-book, which might be electronically searchable. See here: https://books.google.com/books?id=-W7YAQAAQBAJ&pg=PA297&lpg=PA297&dq=laserlight+15798&source=bl&ots=x3izXcxxRc&sig=3rcEgXE7feHJcjS8pyrO6yIoYAc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=GVI5VYGVNcbloAT18oHgAQ&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=laserlight%2015798&f=false Quote
l p Posted April 23, 2015 Author Report Posted April 23, 2015 you cheated by using the web. i said 'by looking only at this armstrong book discography'. and nowhere in the book does he give titles of releases, he just gives the matrix numbers. i hope he's in discographer's hell. Quote
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