soulpope Posted December 7, 2024 Report Posted December 7, 2024 Saturday mornig dance .... btw now on backorder @ cdjapan, so the chances to grab these extraordinary performances are fading .... Quote
soulpope Posted December 7, 2024 Report Posted December 7, 2024 More dancing - this time powered by orchestra - guaranteed ..... Quote
Peter Friedman Posted December 7, 2024 Report Posted December 7, 2024 Petersen Quartet - Mozart - String Quartet K.421 and K.465 Quote
soulpope Posted December 8, 2024 Report Posted December 8, 2024 This Gewandhaus Quartett recording from April 2000 boasts sheer class .... Quote
soulpope Posted December 8, 2024 Report Posted December 8, 2024 On 12/7/2024 at 8:33 AM, soulpope said: @ "Referenzhunter" : should have mentioned Beethoven 6 by Walter/Columbia Symphony Orchestra too .... remembrance fading .... Addendum : Suitner/Staatskapelle Dresden (Denon) .... Quote
soulpope Posted December 8, 2024 Report Posted December 8, 2024 As the Bruckner anniversary year is fading slowly a good reason for late Günter Wand coming up to the fore .... Quote
soulpope Posted December 8, 2024 Report Posted December 8, 2024 The cold from the east is approaching .... Schubert`s "Winterreise" an obvious choice .... Hermann Prey and Helmut Deutsch melt admirably .... Quote
soulpope Posted December 8, 2024 Report Posted December 8, 2024 Treasure trove .... thereof the late Sonatas .... Quote
Referentzhunter Posted December 8, 2024 Report Posted December 8, 2024 On 12/7/2024 at 8:33 AM, soulpope said: @ "Referenzhunter" : should have mentioned Beethoven 6 by Walter/Columbia Symphony Orchestra too .... remembrance fading .... my favorite Quote
soulpope Posted December 8, 2024 Report Posted December 8, 2024 28 minutes ago, Referentzhunter said: my favorite Reasonable .... Quote
Peter Friedman Posted December 8, 2024 Report Posted December 8, 2024 Mozart - Symphonies No.25, 30, 33 Krips / RCO Quote
soulpope Posted December 8, 2024 Report Posted December 8, 2024 7 minutes ago, Peter Friedman said: Mozart - Symphonies No.25, 30, 33 Krips / RCO Outstanding .... Quote
mjzee Posted December 9, 2024 Report Posted December 9, 2024 Brahms needed an editor. His compositions run too long. Quote
soulpope Posted December 9, 2024 Report Posted December 9, 2024 1 hour ago, mjzee said: Brahms needed an editor. His compositions run too long. Probably not all of them, but some "quality control" would haven been of help .... btw it is particularly ironic that he accused Bruckner of this (and was part of a movement which destroyed Bruckner's career during his lifetime) ..... Quote
Peter Friedman Posted December 9, 2024 Report Posted December 9, 2024 Schubert - String Quartets D.32, D.74, D.353 Quote
mjzee Posted December 9, 2024 Report Posted December 9, 2024 11 hours ago, soulpope said: Probably not all of them, but some "quality control" would haven been of help .... btw it is particularly ironic that he accused Bruckner of this (and was part of a movement which destroyed Bruckner's career during his lifetime) ..... For instance, I just listened to this Brahms's Piano Concerto #1. Should it really take 52 minutes? Couldn't it have been shortened to 30 or even 25? Quote
soulpope Posted December 9, 2024 Report Posted December 9, 2024 8 minutes ago, mjzee said: For instance, I just listened to this Brahms's Piano Concerto #1. Should it really take 52 minutes? Couldn't it have been shortened to 30 or even 25? Both Brahms Piano Concertos are monoliths, no question .... Quote
HutchFan Posted December 9, 2024 Report Posted December 9, 2024 (edited) I strongly disagree with the sentiment that Brahms' piano concertos (or his works in general) are too long. . . . However, there might be problems with that particular Barenboim/Barbirolli interpretation. (I'm not familiar with it.) But listen to Szell/Serkin (for a faster, leaner reading) or Gilels/Jochum (for a slower, massive reading). Yes, Brahms' piano concertos are BIG -- they're symphonies with piano accompaniment as much as they're concertos. But they're also MAGNIFICENT. IMO, of course. Edited December 9, 2024 by HutchFan Quote
soulpope Posted December 9, 2024 Report Posted December 9, 2024 11 minutes ago, HutchFan said: I strongly disagree with the sentiment that Brahms' piano concertos (or his works in general) are too long. . . . However, there might be problems with that particular Barenboim/Barbirolli interpretation. (I'm not familiar with it.) But listen to Szell/Serkin (for a faster, leaner reading) or Gilels/Jochum (for a slower, massive reading). Yes, Brahms' piano concertos are BIG -- they're symphonies with piano accompaniment as much as they're concertos. But they're also MAGNIFICENT. IMO, of course. @ "HutchFan" : could not resist 😎 .... off course a complete exaggeration, still making ironically the point his Piano Concertos are hard to digest .... Quote
HutchFan Posted December 9, 2024 Report Posted December 9, 2024 Yeah. I understand that the assertion that "Brahms' compositions are too long" is NOT a new opinion. * * However, the same sorts of accusations have been brought against Beethoven, Berlioz, Wagner, Liszt, Mahler, Bruckner, and probably every other composer of the Romantic era. Quote
soulpope Posted December 9, 2024 Report Posted December 9, 2024 4 minutes ago, HutchFan said: Yeah. I understand that the assertion that "Brahms' compositions are too long" is NOT a new opinion. * * However, the same sorts of accusations have been brought against Beethoven, Berlioz, Wagner, Liszt, Mahler, Bruckner, and probably every other composer of the Romantic era. Btw Brahms suffered life long from excessive self-criticism .... what a irony .... Quote
Peter Friedman Posted December 9, 2024 Report Posted December 9, 2024 Mahler is the composer where the length of his compositions makes it hard for me to connect with them. I would much rather listen to Brahms symphonies and concertos. Currently listening to Chopin's Mazurkas by Nedia Reisenberg. Quote
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