BFT 171 Discussion Thread

[Hot Ptah]

Did John Coltrane record the song which is Track 3? 

[Ken Dryden]

He did indeed.

[Hot Ptah]

I think that Track 3 is “Village Blues,” from Paul Gonsalves’ album “Boom Jackie Boom Chick”.

[Ken Dryden]

You nailed it. I just picked up a Phono CD of this recording. I thought Paul Gonsalves playing a John Coltrane work would be of interest.

 

[Hot Ptah]

47 minutes ago, Ken Dryden said:

You nailed it. I just picked up a Phono CD of this recording. I thought Paul Gonsalves playing a John Coltrane work would be of interest.

 

Everything about this Track 3 is of interest to me. I have never heard of this album. I had never heard of bassist Kenny Napper and drummer Ronnie Stevenson, who I enjoy greatly on this track. I have not heard Paul Gonsalves play in this style. It is very interesting that he recorded a Coltrane composition in 1964. I have to get this album.

 

[Ken Dryden]

Jazz Messengers has it. I had long wanted to hear it and was unaware of the John Coltrane piece being on it. 

[BillF]

Kenny Napper and Ronnie Stevenson were regulars in the house band - often with Stan Tracey on piano - at the Ronnie Scott Club in London at the time (1964), though Pat Smythe - Joe Harriott's pianist - is on piano here.

I saw all of the above mentioned many times in clubs, but only saw Gonsalves in concert settings in the Ellington orchestra.

Although listed as "Village Blues", it does vary slightly from Coltrane's original riff. (This is my excuse for not recognizing it.) 

[Hot Ptah]

1 hour ago, BillF said:

Kenny Napper and Ronnie Stevenson were regulars in the house band - often with Stan Tracey on piano - at the Ronnie Scott Club in London at the time (1964), though Pat Smythe - Joe Harriott's pianist - is on piano here.

I saw all of the above mentioned many times in clubs, but only saw Gonsalves in concert settings in the Ellington orchestra.

Although listed as "Village Blues", it does vary slightly from Coltrane's original riff. (This is my excuse for not recognizing it.) 

It does differ from Coltrane’s original. It was driving me crazy though because I could tell it was a pre-1965 Coltrane tune, so I started listening to Coltrane until I found the closest match. 

[Ken Dryden]

It was close enough that I identified it when I first played the CD, without looking at the track list. That works best for me, as it makes me pay closer attention.

 

[Hot Ptah]

Is the pianist on Track 2 better known as an inside player, a more mainstream player?

[Ken Dryden]

What do your ears tell you?

[Hot Ptah]

4 hours ago, Ken Dryden said:

What do your ears tell you?

They tell me that I have run out of ideas as to who this could be.

[Ken Dryden]

Wait for the reveal or keep guessing...

 

[Ken Dryden]

I will likely post the reveal for BFT171 sometime between 7 am and 10 am EDT tomorrow morning.