Guest ariceffron Posted March 30, 2004 Report Posted March 30, 2004 ...from the staples center. it was amazing. it was hella funky and when it wasnt funky it was soulful. at the end he even did solo acoustic. you know what ive started to realize, the sound prince started in the early 80s, SO many people copied that style for other pop songs in the 80s-- i mean every corner you look. shit that i thought was really cheesy 80s music, now i see they were just exploting prince. did you know miles played w/ him once and theres a bootleg of it. i wonder: is it miles's band w/ prince, or princes band, with miles. i would hope its the latter. that would be out of control. Quote
jazzbo Posted March 30, 2004 Report Posted March 30, 2004 I think it's Prince's band with Miles participating a little. Haven't heard it. In a like manner, I have been hearing echoes of Miles' band with Lucas and Cosey echoing in pop music and such for about three decades now. . .. ! Quote
Guest ariceffron Posted March 30, 2004 Report Posted March 30, 2004 explain speciifically what u mean, re: todd rungren Quote
DrJ Posted March 31, 2004 Report Posted March 31, 2004 (edited) Clem, you're dead on with the Rundgren influence on Prince. I hear it in many ways, particularly as far as both men in their earlier years: 1.The insularity (especially in the early years) - guys holed up with their studio gear making great pop 2. A certain similar worldview - jaundiced, perverse, funny, downright odd 3. De-emphasis of the bass line - this has always freaked me out about Prince especially, here's a funkateer, playing some incredibly intelligent and danceable music, yet on albums like DIRTY MIND the bass is tinny and almost non-existent, and then on 1999 and PURPLE RAIN and even up to SIGN O THE TIMES, whole songs have NO BASS LINE AT ALL and even on those that do it's often skeletal. Check it out if you don't believe me - "Raspberry Beret," "Little Red Corvette," "When Doves Cry," nearly all of the great singles from the heydey, NO BASS. Yet even though nobody's playing bass, his writing is so hip that the bass line is strongly implied, and the lack of an actual line allows a sophisticated musical ear to run wild filling one in that is probably far more interesting than what would have been there anyway. Really cool. Anyway, Rundgren's arrangements are often much the same in that regard, bass is there but way de-emphasized. 4. When they did assemble bands they did so very cannily, going for less than obvious but outstanding choices Gotta disagree with you about DIAMONDS AND PEARLS, love it, love it, love it. Not generally a compilation man and it's flawed in many ways - friggin' EDITS of all the singles - but that Prince 3 CD collection of hits and misses and obscurities/B sides is in constant rotation in our car player on road trips, just right for that. Someone at Warner (or Rhino) needs to make peace with Prince and do a comprehensive box. Edited March 31, 2004 by DrJ Quote
Guest ariceffron Posted March 31, 2004 Report Posted March 31, 2004 ok so conceptual styles are similar- but todd's music is way different from princes. todd is like prog rock. i dont like his hello its me song and all that. that is stupid. do you guys like UTOPIA, esp. the 1st live lp. oh my god Quote
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