Dan Gould Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 Stumbled across this: Davis Jackie & Harold Land Blowin' The Blues/Red Shirt 7" Pacific Jazz X303 Apparently Teddy Edwards is on the B-Side, but I can't find this title on his two PJ albums, and I don't know where the A-Side might have come from either. So the question is, would these be tunes recorded exclusively for the singles market or would these actually be edited versions of album tracks? As always, thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Fitzgerald Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 It's a mess all right. Here's what Bruyninckx CDROM has: Gerald Wilson (tp) Teddy Edwards, Jimmy Allen (ts) Hampton Hawes (p) Herman Mitchell (g) Jimmy Hamilton (b) Jimmy Miller (d) Los Angeles, Ca., May 8, 1953 Red shirt Pacific Jazz 302, JWC 512 Harold Land All Stars : Gerald Wilson (tp) Harold Land (ts) Jackie Davis (org) Jim Hall (g) Curtis Counce (b) Nat Morris Jr. (d) Los Angeles, late 1959 E6599 Blowin' the blues World Pacific WL1289 Blowin' the blues (alt take) Jazz West Coast JWC512 -Singin' the blues- : Jimmy Witherspoon (vcl) acc by Gerald Wilson (tp) Teddy Edwards, Jimmy Allen (ts) Hampton Hawes (p) Herman Mitchell (g) Jimmy Hamilton (b) Jimmy Miller (d) + vcl group-1 Los Angeles, May 8, 1958 8239 Times have changed World Pacific WP1267, PJ327, X327, Fresh Sound (Sp)FRS-CD173 All that's good (1) World Pacific WP1267, X807, Fresh Sound (Sp)FSR-CD173, Vogue (E)V2420 There's good rockin' tonight (*) World Pacific WP1267, WP1289, X814, Fresh Sound (Sp)FSR-CD173 When I've been drinking (*) World Pacific WP1267, Fresh Sound (Sp) FSR-CD173, Artist (Swd)AEP1056 It ain't what you're thinking (+) World Pacific WP1267, Fresh Sound (Sp) FSR-CD173 Wee baby blues (*) World Pacific WP1267, Artist (Swd)AEP 1056, Fresh Sound (Sp)FRS-CD173 Midnight blue (Red shirt)(inst)(+)(#) Fresh Sound (Sp)FSR-CD173 Note : Entire session on Blue Note CDP7243.494108-2 (the first title incorrectly as Times are changing), rest of this CD see following session. Fresh Sound CD says that the (+) titles were recorded on May 18, 1958. (*) These titles on Prestige PRCD-11008-2 entitled "Jazz me blues-The best of Jimmy Witherspoon but list the date incorrectly as May 8, 1956, rest of this CD see following sessions. All titles except (#) on World Pacific WP1402, Fontana (Eu)688005ZL both as "There's good rockin' tonight" and Vogue (E)LAE12218. Here's what Lord CDROM 5.0 has: =============================== [D966-5] Jackie Davis Harold Land (ts) Jackie Davis (org) poss with others. 1950's Blowin' blues Pacific Jazz 303 Red shirt - [E495-5] Teddy Edwards Gerald Wilson (tp) Teddy Edwards, Jimmy Allen (ts) Hampton Hawes (p) Herman Mitchell (g) Jimmy Hamilton (b) Jimmy Miller (d) Los Angeles, May 8, 1953 Red shirt Pacific Jazz 302, JWC 512 [E496-5] Harry "Sweets" Edison (tp) Henry McDode (p) replace Gerald Wilson, Hampton Hawes Los Angeles, May 16, 1958 Midnight blues Pacific Jazz JWC 512 Note: For further details see under Jimmy Witherspoon. [L781-5] Harold Land Harold Land All Stars: Gerald Wilson (tp) Harold Land (ts) Jackie Davis (org) Jim Hall (g) Curtis Counce (b) Nat Morris, Jr. (d) Los Angeles, late 1959 E6599 Blowin' the blues World Pacific WL1289 Blowin' the blues (alt take) Jazz West Coast JWC512 [W8186-5] Jimmy Witherspoon (vcl) acc by ts-1, p-1, g, b, d, tamb-2 prob. Hollywood, CA, early 1958 RIP-105 Endless sleep (2) Rip RP-126, Stompin (E)101 RIP-106 Coming home (1) - , Fresh Sound (Sp)FSR-CD173 [CD] Note: The above single credited to "Jimmy Witherspoon and Band". Fresh Sound (Sp)FSR-CD173 [CD] titled "Midnight Blues"; see May 8 & 16, 1958 and 1960 for further titles; one further title ("Midnight blues" [Red shirt]) by Teddy Edwards, May 8, 1958. [W8187-5] Singin' The Blues: Jimmy Witherspoon (vcl) acc by Gerald Wilson (tp) Teddy Edwards, Jimmy Allen (ts) Hampton Hawes (p) Herman Mitchell (g) Jimmy Hamilton (b) Jimmy Miller (d) + vcl group -1 Los Angeles, May 8, 1958 There's good rockin' tonight (*) World Pacific WP1267, X814, WP1289 Times are changing - , X327 Wee baby blues (*) - , Artist (Swd)AEP1056 When I've been drinking (*) - , Artist (Swd)AEP1056 It ain't what you're thinkin' - All that's good (1) - , X807, Vogue (E)V2420 Note: "Times are changing" as "Times have changed" on most releases. (*) These 3 titles also on Prestige PRCD-11008-2 [CD] titled "Jazz Me Blues : The Best of Jimmy Witherspoon"; liner notes incorrectly list date as May 8, 1956; see various flwg sessions to 1965-66 for rest of CD. All above titles also on Blue Note CDP7243-4-94108-2-4 [CD] titled "Singin' The Blues"; see May 16, 1958 for rest of CD. All above titles also on World Pacific WP1402, Fontana (Eu)688.005ZL (both titled "There's Good Rockin' Tonight"), Vogue (E)LAE12218, Fresh Sound (Sp)FSR-CD173 [CD]. [W8188-5] Harry "Sweets" Edison (tp) Henry McDode (p) replace Gerald Wilson, Hampton Hawes Los Angeles, May 16, 1958 When the lights go out (*) World Pacific WP1267, X807 'Tain't nobody's business if I do - , X814, X-327 S.K. blues - Spoon's blues - Sweet's blues - Note: World Pacific X807 incorrectly lists "When the lights go out" as "Then the lights go out". (*) This title also on Prestige PRCD-11008-2 [CD]; with liner notes incorrectly listing date as May 16, 1956. All titles from World Pacific WP1267 also on Fontana (Du)688005TL, Vogue (E)VDJ527, LAE12218, World Pacific WP-1402 (titled "There's Good Rockin' Tonight !"). All above titles also on Blue Note CDP7243-4-94108-2-4 [CD], Fresh Sound (Sp)FSR-CD173 [CD]. =============================== Pretty sure the 1953 is an error, should be May 8, 1958 - Bruyninckx had it wrong and Lord copied the mistake. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted July 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 Thanks. So it looks like "Red Shirt" made it to both the BN reissue and the Fresh Sound thing (which is what I have) but it looks like the Harold Land thing is an orphan that's never been reissued? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted August 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 (edited) Well, I decided to track this one down, and I realize now that the original appearance of the tune "Blowin the Blues" was on JWC-512, The Blues Volume 3: Blowin the Blues. Mike Fitzgerald's label discography page gives these artists on the album: Pepper Adams Bob Brookmeyer & Jimmy Giuffre Richard Crabtree Teddy Edwards Harold Land & Jackie Davis Wes Montgomery Bud Shank Zoot Sims & Russ Freeman My question is, can anyone tell me whether there are any other tracks on this album, other than the Land/Davis, that are unique to this particular album, or were all of the other tracks from other Pacific Jazz or World Pacific albums? Are there any other "orphans" like the Land/Davis? Thanks! Edited August 13, 2005 by Dan Gould Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 My question is, can anyone tell me whether there are any other tracks on this album, other than the Land/Davis, that are unique to this particular album, or were all of the other tracks from other Pacific Jazz or World Pacific albums? Are there any other "orphans" like the Land/Davis? Thanks! ← Among those albums I have, I guess at least these tracks could be called 'orphans': - Al Haig 'Taking a Chance on Love', a September 6, 1952 side with Harry Babasin and Larry Bunker. It's on the 'Pianists Galore' album, - James Clay 'In a Sentimental Mood', with Bobby Timmons, James Bond, Pete Littman, and: - Phil Urso 'It's Only a Paper Moon', with Timmons, Bond and Littman, both probably from the October 1956 'Chet Baker and Crew' sessions. Those two are on the 'Solo Flight' anthology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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