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Does anyone have any information about the sound quality of this 3-CD "Complete Savoy Sessions" box?
Googling around, I see references to the 5-LP version, but I can't find anything whatsoever about the CDs.
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Does anyone here have the full three volumes of the TAW? It seems like the thing I need to have, but it would probably sit on the shelf. I've done a similar thing collecting what has been translated of the Gramsci Prison Notebooks (3 Volumes, 8 Notebooks worth so far). They are definitely collecting dust, but I still want em.
FYI: There are tentative plans to make a full electronic edition of TAW available online (along with the 5 volumes of Composition Notes) -- though I can't give you a timeline of when it might be realized.
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I'm particularly interested in what you'all think of the 4 Orchestras pieces because I've never heard them....
There is only one piece on For Four Orchestras, Comp. 82.
Do they sequence the music as it was laid out on lp or do they recreate it as originally intended?
If you're asking whether the half-hour of material that was removed for the LPs has been restored, it doesn't appear so: the total duration of the two CDs (113' 30") is within the margin of error of the six LP sides (114' 30").
Not that. I was talking about the sequence of the lp sides. There was an error in manufacturing the records.
I've been told that the sequencing error was corrected. I haven't done an A/B comparison to verify.
Listening to Comp. 82 now -- the sound quality is amazing -- almost like a completely different piece than the one I remember hearing on the LPs (though this may be partly due to it being the first time I've listened to it via headphones).
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How do people feel about Heffley's notes?
(I think the omission of Cooper in the liners was egregious)
Haven't gotten the box so I haven't read the notes. If he doesn't mention Cooper, who I'm sure is credited for his performance in the discographical information, perhaps he's not familiar with his work. In order to write the booklet, he should have been. Maybe he's just young.
Much to do about nothing: The notes say "Altschul" twice instead of "Cooper". There's no extensive analysis of the percussion work on that session. (A quick look in his book confirms that he knows it's Cooper on that session.)
And, fyi, Heffley is three years younger than Braxton. I'll let you determine the proper age-to-typos ratio for music scholars.
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If you're asking whether the half-hour of material that was removed for the LPs has been restored, it doesn't appear so
Ouch...
I don't want to give the impression that not restoring the excised material is a bad thing.
In the Composition Notes, Anthony says
The total material would also exceed two hours and a half and as such, I have taken out about thirty minutes of the music in order to preserve the sound quality of this record. There have also been other adjustments as well, for the problem of time and economics in a project like this has to be taken into account—but what is documented here is an excellent version of the 'essence' of the piece.Those "other adjustments" refer to the limited rehearsal time (3 hours) and inability to setup or reproduce the spatial elements (given the limitations of the recording space and of the recording apparatus).
So the version we have seems to be the "composer's cut" of an imperfect session.
I don't have an answer to Chuck's question re: sequencing. I just got the box today, but it may be a while before I can make time to give "82" a listen.
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I'm particularly interested in what you'all think of the 4 Orchestras pieces because I've never heard them....
There is only one piece on For Four Orchestras, Comp. 82.
Do they sequence the music as it was laid out on lp or do they recreate it as originally intended?
If you're asking whether the half-hour of material that was removed for the LPs has been restored, it doesn't appear so: the total duration of the two CDs (113' 30") is within the margin of error of the six LP sides (114' 30").
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I'm particularly interested in what you'all think of the 4 Orchestras pieces because I've never heard them....
There is only one piece on For Four Orchestras, Comp. 82.
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Does Lock write on Braxton anymore?
Yes.
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Weren't they titled "Composition" on the original albums? When and why were they changed to "Opus"?
I thought they were originally graphic titles and they became compositions when Forces in Motion was published. I noticed they became opus when the Mosaic box was announced.
They're still compositions here.
Per AB, "every composition that I have written has a graphic title, has a coded title... and an opus number title."
Per Lock, opus numbers were assigned starting in the early '80s.
Why did Mosaic use "Opus No. XX" instead of "Composition No. XX" or (as I use) "Composition XX"? No idea. But since the opus number is just a verbal convenience (rather than *the* title), I don't think it matters much. (Scores typically say simply "No. XX", e.g. "No. 364h".)
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fyi:
With the upcoming release of Mosaic's "Complete Arista Recordings" box, I thought it might be useful to republish those LPs' original liner notes (which will not be included with the box), as well as some previously-published writings about these albums by Ran Blake, John Corbett, Art Lange, & John Litweiler.I've made these texts available in two forms:
from within my Braxton discography:
http://www.restructures.net/BraxDisco/BraxDisco.htm
and as iPaper:
When viewing the iPaper versions, I recommend maximizing the viewing space by clicking the little box at the top-right corner of the document, and then adjusting the zoom; you can select different View Modes via the "iPaper" menu at the top left. These iPaper documents can also be downloaded as pdfs.
From within the discography, these texts can be accessed via the new "essays & reviews" link in the upper-left frame of the discography; you can also click on the icon which appears in an albums's discography entry.
In addition, I've added Composition Notes for each of the compositions which appears in the Mosaic box (except for Comp. 40P, which I hope to add soon). The Composition Notes can be accessed via the page for the particular composition that appears in the lower-right frame: e.g., go to a particular album entry in the main discography, click on the composition, and then the page for that composition (with the graphic title and a list of recordings featuring that composition) will appear in the lower-left frame, where you'll see an icon and red text which you'll click on to bring up the Composition Notes. Again, for the moment, Composition Notes are available only for those compositions which appear on the Arista albums.
Thanks to all of the authors for giving me permission to republish these texts.
Jason
ps - If you find any bad links, please let me know
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Correct. It was a Freedom recording, now owned by DA.
That's what I thought, but how'd they get to 14?
This 8-CD set rescues his entire 14-LP Arista output from forgotten vaults.Couple of beads get stuck together on their abacus?
Mosaic has corrected their description of the Braxton box - not 14 LPs, but 13:
The 13 LPs are:Arista AL-4032 New York, Fall 1974 - 1 LP
Arista AL-4064 Five Pieces, 1975 - 1 LP
Arista AL-4080 Creative Orchestra Music 1976 - 1 LP
Arista AL-4101 Duets 1976 - 1 LP
Arista AB-4181 For Trio - 1 LP
Arista AL-5002 The Montreux/Berlin concerts - 2 LPs
Arista A2L-8602 Alto Saxophone Improvisation 1979 - 2 LPs
Arista A3L-8900 For Four Orchestras - 3 LPs
Arista AL-9559 For Two Pianos - 1 LP
And DMG is reporting that no unreleased material will be included.
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Question: I only have info for one LP release of Time Zones: Arista AL 1037. Anyone know if this was ever released on vinyl on the actual Freedom label (as was The Complete Braxton 1971), or was it only released on vinyl via Arista's licensing arrangement?
Bruyninckx says Arista AL1037 = Freedom/Intercord (G)147304 = Freedom (Jap)PA-6079
Thanks, Chuck!
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Anthony Braxton The Montreux/Berlin Concerts - session 1 1975-76 Arista; RCA Bluebird
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Anthony Braxton The Montreux/Berlin Concerts - session 2 1975-76 Arista; RCA Bluebird
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Why is the Berlin set listed twice? Maybe one is a 2 LP set and the other a single LP? Then we would have 14.
Montreux/Berlin was a single 2-LP set.
I suspect Randy, who posted that list originally, made use of my discography, in which I break up the tracks into two "sessions" (three tracks from July 1975 & four tracks from two dates in November 1976).
Question: I only have info for one LP release of Time Zones: Arista AL 1037. Anyone know if this was ever released on vinyl on the actual Freedom label (as was The Complete Braxton 1971), or was it only released on vinyl via Arista's licensing arrangement?
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Just count and you'll see it's 14.
1 New York, Fall 1974
2 Five Pieces 1975
3, 4 The Montreux/Berlin Concerts
5 Creative Orchestra Music 1976
6 Duets w/Abrams
7 For Trio
8, 9, 10 For Four Orchestras
11, 12 Alto Saxophone Improvisations 1979
13 For Two Pianos
14 ??
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Correct. It was a Freedom recording, now owned by DA.
That's what I thought, but how'd they get to 14?
This 8-CD set rescues his entire 14-LP Arista output from forgotten vaults.Couple of beads get stuck together on their abacus?
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I'm not getting to 14. Anybody help out?
Anthony Braxton New York, Fall 1974 1974 Arista
Anthony Braxton Five Pieces 1975 1975 Arista
Anthony Braxton The Montreux/Berlin Concerts - session 1 1975-76 Arista; RCA Bluebird
Anthony Braxton Creative Orchestra Music 1976 1976 Arista; RCA Bluebird
Anthony Braxton / Muhal Richard Abrams Duets 1976 1976 Arista
Anthony Braxton The Montreux/Berlin Concerts - session 2 1975-76 Arista; RCA Bluebird
Anthony Braxton For Trio 1977 Arista
Anthony Braxton For Four Orchestras [Composition 82] 1978 Arista
Anthony Braxton Alto Saxophone Improvisations 1979 1978-79 Arista
Anthony Braxton For Two Pianos [Composition 95] 1980 Arista
14 LPs = all of the above (Montreux/Berlin & Alto Sax Improv are 2-LP each; 4 Orch is 3-LP) + Braxton/Teitelbaum, Time Zones?
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I am on track nine ("All I Need") and I finally found a song I would rank somewhere near the peak era from the 1970s.
"All I Need" is the track I like least on this album (runner up being the Bailey Rae duet, and the ending of "No One Like You" was a mistake).
But otherwise, after two dozen listens, I think the album is a flat-out masterpiece, a huge leap beyond his previous Blue Note efforts.
Lay It Down has great tunes (while the lyrics can be simplistic, they almost need to be in order to maintain that wonderful ambivalence between secular and sacred love/desire/need), exceptional musicians (esp. the bass & drums -- that style of slinky bass playing is deceptively difficult to pull off, but Adam Blackstone nails it), and the wonder that is the voice of Al Green, no worse for aging than a fine wine. The production style might be a little too clean and polished for some tastes, but it's not much more "polished" than any of Green's classic recordings - and in some ways the sonic clarity is an improvement. If you're looking for new ground to be broken, look elsewhere. If you love Al, you need this record.
This review by Claudrena Harold seems on-target:
Well, it’s highly unlikely that diehard fans (those folk who ride extremely hard for at least eight Green albums, and by ride I mean can’t live without em’) will alter their top five Al Green albums list. But it’s also unlikely that future Al Green Greatest Hits compilations—and the capitalist gods will surely inundate us with more—will exclude songs from Lay It Down. -
Question: Do Blu-Ray players play non Blu-Ray DVDs?
yes - see here
There is no compatibility issue with DVDs and HDTVs -- the "up-converting" part of your DVD player is a chip which (in theory) improves the video image that is fed to your HDTV; more hereI do currently have what I guess is called an "up-convertable" DVD player which helps my current DVDs to be compatible with my HDTV. -
it's not like it's actually going to happen anyway.By the way what difference will it make to do these things on Blu-Ray instead of regular CDs ?
Unless you think he's going to extremes to perpetuate a hoax, I'd say the video in this story shows it's legit:
http://www.news.com/8301-13953_3-9937142-8...l?tag=nefd.lede
Looks like a pretty innovative use of the technology (which could not have been done via CDs nor DVDs).
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From 1964-'65 he played his "three sided music" with Don Friedman and Barre Phillips. As far as is known, no recordings exist of the trio.
But there is a recording -- not the best audio quality, but the music is astonishing:
Jimmy Giuffre: Olympia, Fevrier 1960 - Fevrier 1965 Trema 710586 (France) [CD]1. The Boy Next Door (Blane/Martin) 7:55
2. Mack The Knife (Brecht/Weill) 9:15
3. My Funny Valentine (Rodgers/Hart) 6:33
4. Two For Tumbuktoo 5:28
5. Drive 7:34
6. Cry, Want 8:22
7. Crossroads (Coleman) 7:27
8. Syncopate 7:01
9. Ictus (Carla Bley) 8:32
Note: CD issued 1999
composed by Giuffre except as noted
tracks 1-4 recorded live February 23, 1960, Olympia, Paris
tracks 5-9 recorded live February 27, 1965, Olympia, Paris
on tracks 1-4: Jimmy Giuffre, clarinet, tenor saxophone; Jim Hall, guitar; Wilford Middlebrooks, bass
on tracks 5-9: Jimmy Giuffre, clarinet, tenor saxophone; Don Friedman, piano; Barre Phillips, bass
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Anyone have any info on this show? It looks like something to put on my calendar.
August 7
Amir El Saffar's Two Rivers Ensemble (incl. Rudresh Mahanthappa)
Millennium Park
Chicago, IL
more info here on this summer's Millennium Park concerts
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Glad you found it useful.Bringing this one up again to ask (again) if the DVD is available separately.Jason, the DVD is wonderful... it really helped me understand the music better.
The DVD is not available separately, nor do I know of plans to issue it separately.
Perhaps if you and others who purchased the box in mp3 form were to contact the label, they might figure out a way to accomodate you. Perhaps not.
Personally, I would like the video to be available to those who purchased the mp3s, but I can understand the logistical problems involved. (And one might consider the "documentary" as an audio-visual extension of the boxset's substantial liner notes, which, as far as I know, are similarly exclusive to the boxset.) In any case, I'm confident that "friendly experiencers" can find a way -- as you have -- towards experiencing all of the material in the box. And if inaccessibility leads to the formation of new friendships, well, maybe that's an extra bonus
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Has Braxton done a duet with a guitarist?
In addition to the aforementioned meetings with Bailey & Shiurba, there's a recording with Fred Frith, Duo (Victoriaville) 2005 (Victo).
Also, as I recall, there's a duo album with James Emery that has never been released (not sure why); you can otherwise hear some terrific Emery with Braxton on the 1980 trio recording, Composition No. 94 (Leo/Golden Years of New Jazz). There's a photo of Emery playing with Braxton here (scroll down half way).
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Posted · Edited by jasonguthartz
The latest information I have about the unreleased solo material comes from Graham Lock, who told me this via e-mail in 2005:
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Actually, it's an arrangement Google has worked out with these paywalled news sites: