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There were a lot of mainstream rock & roll releases from various old established artists that I enjoyed a lot:
1) THAT'S WHY GOD MADE THE RADIO - The Beach Boys. This had far more hits than misses for me, and the closing suite of songs is sheer beauty. What a wonderful thing if they could let this be their swan song, because it would be more than fitting.
2) ANALOG MAN - Joe Walsh. His most enjoyable work since BUT SERIOUSLY FOLKS, but hampered by sound so bad I actually whined about it in an Amazon review.
3) AMERICANA - Neil Young & Crazy Horse. Served as a nice appetizer for what came just a few months later...
4) PSYCHEDELIC PILL - Neil Young & Crazy Horse. Starting an album with a half-hour jam on two chords? Works for me. BOY, does it work for me!
5) TANK FULL OF BLUES - Dion. Cat's 72 years old and still sounds as full of fire as he did when he started. And oh my can he play the guitar! YIKES!!!
6) REMEMBER - Micky Dolenz. I realize by now that my credibility was shot to hell ages ago, and I don't care. I heard about this CD because Phil Keaggy is on it. And it's a DAMN good CD! The closing title track is worth the price of admission alone.
7) SUNKEN CONDOS - Donald Fagen. Much in the same vein as MORPH THE CAT, which I loved, so it's all good.
8) CLOCKWORK ANGELS - Rush. These guys just keep getting better and better, and I'm not what you would call a typical Rush fan, only having come around to their music in the last few years. But as Geddy's voice can't hit those shrieking high notes anymore, what remains is a lot more heartfelt.
9) FANATIC - Heart. Best thing they've done since the 70's. May be their finest ALBUM ever. All I know is it rocks like nobody's business.
10) MONSTER - KISS. Credibility.... I know, I know, BUT they haven't sounded this hungry since CREATURES OF THE NIGHT. When these guys cut out all the bullshit, they too rock like nobody's business.
Thanks for indulging me.
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Big Al, I enjoyed the BFT immensely, even with Jimmy Adkins warbling "Colorado" and that trombone stinker!
And love that one cut on side 2, can't wait for the answer thread to find out what it is.Sweet! I'm VERY glad to hear this!
Jimmy Jones
(Come-a come-a)
MG
Mmmmmmmmm!!! I wish! Ben Webster & Jimmy Jones? I'll take that combo ANY day of the week; alas, 'taint Jimmy here!
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I am stumped with the rest of these tracks. A great BFT by the way.
Thanks HBJ! I'm glad you're enjoying it!
Big Al, This is a most enjoyable BFT. I have been playing it non-stop in my car, and loving it. You can really pick songs that have that certain magic to them, that makes me come back to music again and again.
Your BFT is too difficult for me though. I have no guesses, not even of the wild variety. The one exception is that I knew the Carlos Santana "Swing of Delight" song, because I bought that album when it first came out. My favorite song on that album is the last one, "Shere Khan, The Tiger".
I think that the last song on your BFT has Ben Webster playing on it, but have no idea about the song or album.
I love that Santana album, and found it in the clearance section at Half Price Books. I'll never understand HPB sometimes: multiple copies of various Herb Alpert albums sit in the regular price racks, but THIS was in the clearance??? Oh well, with the lineup on this record, I woulda gladly paid five times what I paid for it!
Yes, that is definitely Ben Webster there. I'm curious to see if anyone figures out the piano player.
I'm really glad you're enjoying my BFT. That means a lot!
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Back on track at last...
DISC ONE
TRACK ONE - Not disciplined enough to kept from reading some commentary and not others, so just let me say that I would have never guessed this one. Very nice, especially the piano playing.
Like I said with my last BFT, I always feel like I've accomplished something if there's at least ONE track that I can fool you with! This was another of the stumpers, and I'm glad it stumped someone!
TRACK TWO - Well now!
Did we ever figure out who this was?
TRACK THREE - Not as mundane as a causal listening might suggest...is that an oboe in there? Either that or a really reedy soprano. I'm going oboe. And that secondary them sounds like a "hee-haw" so I wonder if the composition is somehow donkey or otherwise "Western" themed? Trombone player sounds like Jimmy Cleveland until he doesn't. The whole thing is very controlled, but I sense more for programmatic reasons than commercial ones. And then right at the very end, somebody changes to tenor to play lead w/trombone, which had up until that point only been heard in solo..I don't know that there would be this much subtle variations and textures if the aim was just commercialism. The way the drums come in and out, that's anti-commercial right there! Nice cut, one that doesn't ask you to think too much, but rewards you when you do. Not an easy task, that.
Nope, not Cleveland, but yes the composition is western-themed if nothing else than in name!
TRACK FOUR - Sounds more "Latin" than "jazz" in execution, although vice-versa in concept...and weirdly enough sounds in many parts like some hymn we sang in church a lot back when I was a kid. Just a wild-assed guess - Tito Puente featured on vibes? Another one where the arrangement is controlled but highly variated. (I know, the word is really "variegated", but I like "variated" better).
I like "variated" better, too! Not Puente, though. Let's see if Mike Weil gets THIS one! mwah hah hah haahhh!
TRACK FIVE - Another one where I couldn't help but read the commentary...my guess before then would have been early Herbie Mann, which could be linked to Fathead, which could then be linked to James Clay. So it wouldn't have been that wrong, would it?
Anyway, for some reason, this is one James Clay session that I've never picked up on. .probably should remedy that.I would HIGHLY recommend remedying that! Right up there with the Klemmer track in terms of enjoyment for me! And I'll give you half-a-point for the thought process!
TRACK SIX - Had high hopes for this one once they got past the pretty basic modal-y noodling of the intro, seemed like the composition was going to go some different places, but...not really. That tenor tone is very familiar, kinda reminds me of Dave Young or Paul Plummer on te old George Russell sides, that stone-faced sobriety thing, but I don't think it's them, and I draw a blank past them. Very competent overall, and definitely sets a mood, but overall seems just a little superficial for my tastes, at least at this time.
Another stumper that has fooled everyone so far! I'm feeling pretty good about this one!
TRACK SEVEN - Santana, from Wings Of Delight, with WayneAndHerbieAndRonAndTony. Santana talks about Coltrane a lot, and I know he means it, but his stuff seems more out of Pharoah than Trane, some very basic-but-cool changes and melodies. Not a problem for me, becuase the guys's always been more about "feel" than "depth", and that's not a problem for me, never has been. I remember when this record first cam out, me and a buddy were somking togheter listening to it, and I said about Wayne on one tune, "does it sound to you like Wayne's kinda not really digging too deep on this?" and the guy laughed and said, "hey man, he's just being WAYNE SHORTER, it's that time for him", and yeah, I suppose it was, but...this was after everybody was saying Where Has Wayne Gone and all that and yet this was the first record that had me wondering the same thing. And really, it holds true for HerbieAndRonAndTony too, they're all sort of role-playing.
But in spite of that, Is still like the record. They might be role-playing, but they're all honest roles getting played, so hey..Santana. Saul Goode like that.
Another stumper that bites me in the behind. Ah well, the reason for its existence will also be revealed in The Reveal!
TRACK SEVEN - I've never cared much for Johnny Smith, and this is not changing my mind. Even a little.
Well, this track certainly won't win any converts, that's for sure!
Kudos for two discs worth of good, and often enough great, music, Al. Sorry I couldn't follow along with the 4-sided Double LP thing, but I've been having to use a computer w/o a functional CD-ROM drive. Had to send the DL link to my daughter, who then burnt the two discs. But I dig the concept, as well as most of the music. Thanks again!
Thank YOU again! I'm really glad you and everyone else (except Felser
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TRACK SEVEN - Old Socks, New Shoes, let's rob some banks and keep Patty in a closet. I love this tune and this version of it. Massive yet subtle overdubbing. People wonder why the SLA chose this as their anthem, hell, just listen to how those drums and that fat, open bottom keep intensifying with each chorus until it gets to be pure down home soul freaking MARCHING, not being stopped by anything or anybody...you gonna get somebody to do SOMETHING with all htat...too bad it was the SAL, but they weren't the only ones, I can tel you that. This thing just GRABBED HOLD of a lot of people, just because of all that, I know it did me...this was one of the first 5-10 jazz records I ever bought. Very much a mixed bag, but when it was good, it was REAL good.
Learn something new every BFT! I truly did not know this song was associated with such groups, and am absolutely fascinated by that fact.
Check this out: http://jazztimes.com...l-their-feeling
About the closing song of the evening, an explanation about how the Crusaders, Patty Hearst and the FBI got linked together was told by Joe.
“It seems like in all those years playing the Lighthouse every activist group loved the Crusaders and they were always trying to indoctrinate me to become a Black Panther or this or that. And one day in Hawaii, we had done a show and my hotel room phone rang and the guy said this is agent so and so. We want to know what you know about Patty Hearst. I hung the phone up. He called back again and said this is serious, this is agent so and so. I hung the phone up and the next thing there was knocking at the door. We are very serious—the first thing on the kidnapping tape was Wilton Felder’s ‘Way Back Home.’ The SLA (Symbionese Liberation Army, who kidnapped Patty Hearst) had adopted Wilton’s ‘Way Back Home’ as their anthem. I said, ‘Ain't that some shit. I think you're looking for Les McCann.’”
"I think you're looking for Les McCann..." ROTFLMFAO!!!!
Les would have been more than any of them could handle.
Who, the Crusaders? The FBI? The SLA? Or all of the above?
"Passion Food" from 'Involvement', his first album. Somebody named Sam Thomas on guitar. I have wooden ears, but am good with a google search.
Alllll...righty then. (nice work, felser) Color me dumbfounded. My mind is in the process of being blown here, and I haven't even gotten around to thinking about the John Klemmer part. "Sam Thomas", eh? Sam Thomas? With tone like that, I've never heard of the guy? (afaicr, anyway). Wow. MUST research this.
Al, if you've got anything on Sam Thomas, I can't wait for the reveal. No, I mean literally- I cannot wait.
Thankfully, JSngry already took care of all of us by starting the thread and linking the various articles, because this is all I have from Sam Thomas. It's for the reason JS mentioned that this track is on here: the "neighborhood sound" of that guitar! LOVE that sound!
So far here is what I have after one time through. I haven't looked at the posts yet
01. The is the Montgomery Brothers. I have this record.
10. I am sure I have this one. Is it Donald Byrd and Kenny Burrell?
12. This has to be Sonny Stitt. I have this record too. Don't recall the title of the recording.
Gonna listen once more before I look at the other responses.
Yup, yup, and yup! Batting 1.000 so far!
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Ok, I have time to do Disc Two right now, just because I have more ready IDs....excuse the "jumping ahead" of response.
DISC TWO
TRACK ONE - "Shotgun" by Willie Bobo. It's got a good beat and I would dance to it if I could dance. Haven't picked up this one yet, but once they got to the lyric, it was pretty easy to identify. For some reason, this arrangement puts me in mind of Woody Herman! Is this that Kenny Rogers guy on tenor again?
I'd planned on putting this track on here long before you started your Willie Bobo thread, and then when you put a Bobo track on your last BFT, I thought things might get a little redundant, but then I listened to the groove on this again (and again, cuz I can't listen to it just once!) and said "heck with it! It's staying!"
TRACK TWO - Stanley Turrnetine, Donald Byrd, & Kenny Burrell, possibly Herbie Hancock, that's all I can tell (and that's enough to know). Don't know this particular album...with that lineup, you'd think Blue Note, but it's not anything I know. Good stuff, not great but good, stick-to-you-ribs meat-and-potatoes jazz.
I certainly did, and that's precisely why it's on this BFT!
TRACK FOUR - Sonny Stitt playing some blues. If I had a dollar for every time Sonny Stitt played some blues, I'd be rich, to say nothing of what Sonny Stitt would be if he had a dollar for every time he played some blues...but alas, life is not fair. I'm going to guess that this is later period Stitt, something from the 70s? Barry Harris on piano, maybe. Nice rhythm section, more interesting than Stitt, actually, at least to me. This is one of those solos of his where the beginning of every chorus could be a head, and at some point before or after probably was. They weren't all like that, thank god, but a lot of them where.
See previous comment/complaint/whine about not being able to fool any of y'all!
TRACK FIVE - Very, very VERY Zawinul-esque, right down to the "Gibraltar" cop for the head. I don't really like copying, but I do like Zawinul (a lot) so I'm going to take this more as inspiration rather than exploitation. And for no particular reason other than the electric piano sound and the fact that it changes to organ, I'm going to guess Claire Fischer. Truth be told, I'd rather hear Zawinul do something like this, but by the time whoever it was made this record, Zawinul had probably "moved on to other things" as they say, so somebody else had to do this. It's a nice cut in spite of the derivativeness.
As mentioned before, 'taint Zawinul but, as also mentioned before, I hear it now that y'all mention it! Hadn't really heard it before!
TRACK SIX - Oh my...I think I hear Bob Brookmeyer...maybe now I better understand what drove him to drink so much when he did...
I'm just tickled that I finally found a track that is irritating the heck outta folks! Revenge is sweet!!!!
TRACK SEVEN - Old Socks, New Shoes, let's rob some banks and keep Patty in a closet. I love this tune and this version of it. Massive yet subtle overdubbing. People wonder why the SLA chose this as their anthem, hell, just listen to how those drums and that fat, open bottom keep intensifying with each chorus until it gets to be pure down home soul freaking MARCHING, not being stopped by anything or anybody...you gonna get somebody to do SOMETHING with all htat...too bad it was the SAL, but they weren't the only ones, I can tel you that. This thing just GRABBED HOLD of a lot of people, just because of all that, I know it did me...this was one of the first 5-10 jazz records I ever bought. Very much a mixed bag, but when it was good, it was REAL good.
Learn something new every BFT! I truly did not know this song was associated with such groups, and am absolutely fascinated by that fact.
BTW, this would be the last tune on the last album by The Jazz Crusaders, btw, on Chisa. The next one would be Pass The Plate by The Crusaders (also on Chisa) and for those who haven't checked, there's a few tunes that overlap between those two albums and the Hutcherson/Land San Francisco album on Blue Note. Needless to say, they are interpreded quite differently on each album.
I need to find that San Fan album and do some comparisons. I've also got PTP, and love listening to it back-to-back with OSNS/NSOS. Woulda made a great Chisa double-album!
TRACK EIGHT - Tristano, Konitz, Marsh, etc., Capitol, 1949. History. Don't know if it really counts as "free jazz", but it sure counts as displaying a willingness to improvise outside of song-from that was pretty radical for its time. Truthfully, I like all these guys bettr playing song-froms, but for them, this was a part of the process that enabled them to be as free with that material as they ended up being. Lesson being, perhaps, that "freedom" is not so much any particular specific action nearly as much as it is the state one is in when performing that action. Maybe.
This is about as avant-garde as I get!
More about its inclusion at the Reveal.TRACK NINE - Don't know the tune, but that's Ben. I'll never not like Ben.
It IS definitely Ben, and I'm right there with ya about never not liking!
Gotta listen to the first disc some more, some real stumpers there, as well as gotta get more time to post at this length, but hey, some good stuff here already. Thanks, al!
And thank YOU, again(!), for your enthusiasm and eloquence!
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3 - Reminds me of those weird Walter Wanderley 60's Verve albums, especially that strange lead instrument. Again, not a rhythm I relate to particularly well. This one has a pretty cool sense of humor.
Now THAT'S a response I wasn't expecting! But now that you mention it, I can see where you're coming from!
Thus completes the Samba side of the BFT.
And speaking of things that didn't occur to me... you're absolutely correct, despite the fact that it wasn't my intent. I like how it happened that way, though, not to mention the fact that you noticed!
5 - This is more up my alley. Like what the rhythm section is doing. Vibes player sounds like Milt Jackson, but this is too "new" to be one of the things he did with Frank Wess in the 50's. Is this one of the ones with Jimmy Heath on Pablo in the 80's? A Cedar Walton compostion with him on piano?
Neither Bags, Wess (although a good guess), Heath, or Walton (a FANTASTIC guess; I can definitely see where you're coming from here!).
6 - I like this a LOT, has such a nice 70's spritual groove to it. This is the sort of think I do a lot of listening to. None of the individual players jump out at me for distinctive style, but they do their jobs well, especially the pianist. This is the first one I'm going to go look into acquiring if I don't already have it. Reminds me of some of the stuff that came out on Black Jazz or Strata East, or that Harry Whitaker album.
Another interesting guess! It's earlier than the 70's, but I guess this means I've got some Black Jazz & Strata East albums to look into, especially if they sound like this!
7 - Carlos Santana, of course, and I was a fan back in the day, until he became so "Smooth" c/o Clive Davis. "Gardenia" from 'The Swing of Delight', the album he did with Shorter/Hancock et al. That one was a nice album, but a relative disappointment given the personnel. I like Carlos a lot on this cut, but the sax leaves me cold. I have not been a fan of Shorter's post-Miles playing, and really best like him with the Jazz Messengers.
Correct on all counts, except that I love this album!
8 - "Land of the Velvet Hills" by JOhnny Smith. Jimmy Atkins on vocal. That's perverse, Big Al!
WOW!!!! Would I be correct in assuming you own the Verve Elite from which I dug this off?
9 - Time and place. Probably mid-60's, probably Verve records. Conversely to cut 1, I like this more than I should. It's a lot of fun, and the guitar parts smoke. From the words, I guess it's a cover of Jr. Walker's "Shotgun", but they've totally left behind the tune and changed the groove.
Did they evah!!!
10 - Time and place. Probably 60's, probably Atlantic records. Surely the tenor player's album. Fathead Newman? Doing what he does, doing it well like he does. Works for me, YMMV, but hopefully not too much. And you just don't get good boogaloos anymore.
Amen and hear hear!!! Not Fathead, but can I get an amen anyway???
11 - The pianist's album. Sounds like something from Herbie Hancock's"Inventions and Dimensions" album, but it isn't, and certainly sounds like Willie Bobo, but I can't place it. I do like it.
I love it that NOW you guess Willie Bobo.
12 - Right in my sweet spot. Something I surely have, by a tenor player I have dozens of cD's by, but I can't place the song and hesitate to guess at the player (maybe Lockjaw Davis?). Too much wonderful music, too little time. I could spend a lot of decades listening to this sort of thing.
MEEEEEEEEEEEE too!!!! Not Jaws, though.
13 - Gotta be Weather Report or a reasonable facsimile thereof. EP sure sounds like Joe Zawinul to me, gotta think it's Weather Report. I like it. The lack of synths and the solid bottom of the bass indicate that it would be pre_Jaco, which is a good thing to me. Whoever/whatever/whenever it is, it's good.
Not Weather Report, but after reading your comment I went back and listened to it and can understand the guess! And actually, it does remind me of Zawinul, but "In a Silent Way"-era.
14 - Blecch. My first thought was Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass, but it's probably something like one of those early A&M/Creed Taylor Nat Adderley albums, before Don Sebesky got his footing and made those beautiful CTI albums. Really really dislike that style of trombone playing, though I know others here are fond of it. No doubt has "historical significance", but still...
Nope, nothing historical, and the day I put a Herb Alpert tune on a BFT is the day Sangrey puts a Four Freshman cut on HIS BFT!
15 - Marginally better than 14, but still not something I'd ever want to listen to again. Alto player's album. Hank Crawford? Never have quite "gotten" him, even though I own some Atlantic and CTI stuff by him.
Funny how folks think this is Hank Crawford, but again, I can understand why!
16 - Has to be Lennie Tristano with Lee Konitz, Warne Marsh, and Billy Bauer. Works OK for me, but it's cold. and George Russell and Cecil Taylor were certanily paying attention. I own it, I play it sometimes, I admire it. I don't love it.
Bingo!
17 - Not cold. Vibrato says Coleman Hawkins. Again, something I admire more than I like, something I no doubt own, and listen to once in a blue moon.
Not the Hawk.
Thanks for playing along, Fel "Z"!
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Damn! Got to think again. I was SURE it was GG!
MG
After lunch. Not Blue Mitchell, either. It's Donald Byrd - 'Bossa' from 'Up'.
Oh lord.
And it turns out that I've got that Montgomery Bros track, on 'Fingerpickin''.
Ah well.
Correct all around! I know what you mean about having a track that ends up on a BFT!
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Playing ketchup, because this could take a while and it could get all over ya if you're not careful!
BFT106
Side 1 #1 MJQ? Yes, surely. Not one I’ve heard before. Oh, is there a guitar in this somewhere? Oh yes, now he’s started soloing. So it AIN’T the MJQ. But it’s the MJQ with a guitarist who isn’t Laurindo Almeida. No, it’s Milt with some other geezers, who shall be nameless. Though the pianner player sometimes sounds like John Lewis and sometimes doesn’t. The guitarist plays a bit too clangy a sound for my liking, but otherwise this is nice. Second thoughts, Montgomery Brothers or Mastersounds. But I always associate Wes with a smoother style than this (perhaps because I have a lot of his Verve and CTI albums
)Your powers of reasoning are awesome!
Side 1 #2 Bossa nova a la TTK, not a la Seeline. I’m sure I almost recognise the tenor player as being one I don’t listen to much. Ditto the guitarist. I keep wanting to say the tenor player is Harold Land, but my better judgement won’t let me
There’s a vibes player in this who’s doing hardly anything at all.Your better judgement is correct!
Side 1 #4 So, is there a vibes player on this? Yes. And I know this one, I think. No I don’t but that sound to start off with is very familiar, kinda Dukish (Pearson, that is). The whole thing sounds like a Pearson job. And the vibes player surely is Booby.
Sorry, neither Duke nor Booby!
Well, putting the dog to bed now, at the end of side 1. Side 2 will no doubt feature organists from Arkansas.
Side 2 #1 Oh, Mediafire told me this was here somewhere, but I’ve got it anyway. It’s ‘New Delhi’ by James Clay, of course. And there’s Vic Feldman on vibes on it. Dunno which take it is
Correct! I'll still give you the point!
Side 2 #2 A vibes player on this too? Not yet
The pianist sounds a bit like Jack Wilson. But I don’t get the band. There are things in there that sound like Gerald Wilson but, overall, it’s not a GW job. Actually, the trumpet player reminds me of GW. And the alto player is reminiscent of Anthony Ortega. But it’s still not a GW job. I give up. Nice work, though. I’d LIKE it to be Gerald Wilson with a smallish band.Well, it's a smallish band, but not GW.
Side 2 #3 Oh, I know this guitarist, I think. The soprano sax is a bit familiar, too. Is the guitarist Orhan Demir? I think I recognise the bass player – some Englishman called Holland. So it surely can’t be Orhan Demir. This is very nice.
It's not Holland, and I've never heard of Demir, so I'm open to any recommendations you have.
Side 2 #4 Bing? ‘Colorado’. No, it’s not Bing. But there’s a vibes player in there
Actually, the singer seems a bit on the elderly side, so it could be Bing. Nice guitarist who is probably very familiar in a jazz framework.It's not Bing, but I will tell you that when I first heard this, I also thought it was Bing. But more on that when the Reveal comes. Suffice to say, you nailed the reason for this track's existence on the BFT!
Side 3 #1 Latin groove; very nice. I really like the trumpet solo; very simple, like Melvin Lastie’s work. The song appears to be a Latinisation of Jr Walker’s ‘Shotgun’. I think Willie Bobo did a version of that. Lastie worked with him on one of his Verve LPs. Like that honking little tenor bit. Ace groove. Yes, this is from ‘Spanish grease’, and it IS Mel Lastie on cornet.
Bing! Bing! Bing! Or rather, ding! Ding! Ding! Correct on all accounts!
Side 3 #2 Oh, I know this one, surely. Or do I just know the intro? And Stanley. With Duke Pearson, undoubtedly. But I find I don’t know this, unless it’s from ‘Return of the prodigal son’ or ‘Bluish bag’, neither of which I’ve played enough to remember note for note. Blue Mitchell on trumpet. Oh Gawd a guitarist! Fuck, it’s Grant Green! What the bleeding hell IS this? Well, it ain’t from either of those Turrentine albums. Is this a bonus track off the ‘Rough n tumble’ session that I haven’t got and don’t know about? There’s nothing in the Grant Green discography to support this, except ‘Rough n tumble’ and no bonus cuts on that. I don’t get it.
No, but once again you DID get the reason for THIS track's existence on this BFT! Your reaction to this track mirrored exactly my reaction upon hearing this track the first time! Again, more details when comes the Reveal!
Side 3 #3 Another Latin groove. I definitely HAVEN’T got this. Sounds as if it ought to be Ray Bryant. And ought to be in my collection.
Ray Bryant's a good guess, and although it's not correct, I think I could see me guessing Ray if I were hearing this on someone else's BFT!
Side 3 #4 Sinny Stott, I’ll be danged. Not one I know, but I’ve got about 80 Stott albums, so maybe I have it somewhere. But I think I’d remember this; the rhythm section, particularly the drummer, isn’t quite right with Sonny in some way, though they’re fine when Sonny drops out for the piano solo. This isn’t really Latin but the drummer seems to be coming from there, in some way.
This always happens on my BFT's: the tracks I think will stump everyone are the ones everyone gets; and the tracks I think are relatively easy are the ones that drive everyone nuts!!! I guess that's the gamble when you put a Stitt track on a BFT, but.... eh, I'll save THAT for the Reveal as well!
Bedtime for me, now, at the end of side 3.
Side 4 #1 Electric piano and another Latin groove. The pianist doesn’t seem to be saying much, I think I’d rather hear him on real piano, but the cowbell player is really grooving nicely. Oh, there’s an organ player in this. And I bet it’s Frank Anderson.
Hee hee hee! Sorry to say there's only one keyboard player! Just the reaction I was hoping for!
Side 4 #2 Intro to ‘Bread & butter’ (or ‘High heel sneakers’). Nice growly trombone, to start with, then he gets a bit bland. He’s probably a modernist who was encouraged by the producer to do something commercial, at least to start his solo. Good hotel foyer music.
So far, this is probably the kindest thing anyone's said about this track!
Side 4 #3 Oh, ‘Way back home’; I do love simple stuff. So who’s this. There’s an alto player who sounds like Hank Crawford in there, but this ain’t Hank’s version of the tune and I can’t find that he was a sideman on anyone else’s version. So I don’t know what it is. But it’s lurvely.
‘Course, it could be the original by the JCs, which for some reason I never bought (from ‘Old socks, something something’) but it doesn’t sound like Wilton Felder on sax and the band’s too big. But it’s apparently the right length.
[cue Bugs Bunny voice] Ehhhhhhhh, could be, Doc!
Side 4 #4 Bop alto. With guitar interweaving. Don’t know any of these players. Sound like recent guys doing Tristano. Good thing it’s only two and a half minutes.
Tristano yes, recent no.
Side 4 #5 Those lovely whispering ends to the lines put me in mind of Ben Webster, but I don’t think it’s him; I don’t think this tune is the sort of ballad he’d do; it’s not positive enough. But it does sound like him. Could be Harold Ashby. Towards the end, it does sound more like Ben. Very, very, nice, whoever it is.
Anyway, this is mostly extremely nice music I’ve liked a lot. And some cuts I’m dying to find out about. (No Christmas songs, though
) Can I hang on until the end of the month?Thanks Al.
MG
My pleasure, and I'm thrilled you enjoyed it! Answers available if you're really REALLY curious! Just drop me a PM!
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DL for me please!
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I don't know what surprises me more: the level of curiosity for this track, or the fact that it hasn't been ID'd. By that, I mean I put that on here without any pretense of stumping anyone: I just love this track and the album from which it came which, if it's any help, gives absolutely zero indication the direction the sax player would eventually take.
Not John Klemmer, then?
Actually, yes, and he's the leader! I'm curious, though: what made you rule him out based on this? I mean, I've heard some Klemmer records from the 70's which sound NOTHING like this!
Figuring out the rest of this track oughta be fairly easy. I hope!
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Al, I gotsta know... had you ever heard "Scratch"?
Not yet, but I see it in the LP bins at Half Price Books from time to time, and have previously passed up on it. THAT won't happen again until I has my own copy, IcantellyouTHAT!!!!
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I don't know what surprises me more: the level of curiosity for this track, or the fact that it hasn't been ID'd. By that, I mean I put that on here without any pretense of stumping anyone: I just love this track and the album from which it came which, if it's any help, gives absolutely zero indication the direction the sax player would eventually take.
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Thank you so much!!
Man, I'm still glad you came back! Happy birthday 2013!
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Ellington at Newport 1956
The Who at Leeds University, 2/14/70
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"Latona"
That's the one I was thinking of when I said "Let 'em Roll." LOVE this one!
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Interest here as well. There are so many great jams to pick from, but right off the top I know I'd love "Let 'em Roll" and "The Yodel!" Anything beyond that is gravy to me!
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Really enjoying everyone's comments so far!
More later as time permits, but once again, this BFT has been a learning experience for me: I never knew the backstory to "Way Back Home!"
And once again, the tracks I thought might buffalo folks are the ones everyone's nailing, and the tracks I thought would be relatively easy are stumping folks!
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First of all, I downloaded from the Mediafire link, and although I got the zany album artwork, I didn't get any tag info that identified the material (story of my life
).Mine too, in reverse! I figured you'd enjoy the album art!
1. This is a favorite of mine, and every time I hear it, I wonder why I don't play it more often. All three brothers on this track, which is a good thing when it happens! http://www.artistdir...7659514,00.html
Indeed it is, in both cases!
2. I don't know who this is (yet), but the guitarist's tone has got me sitting up and paying attention.
Glad you enjoyed this! He's one of the reasons this track is on here!
6. Pretty sure I've never heard this before. Goes well with a cold, quiet, overcast day. Hmm… pretty Miles-ian sounding trumpet solo there. Hmm…
YES! I was hoping someone would guess something along those lines!
7. Just saw Carlos the other day. Not in person, on tv. He was in the "white-out" (white t-shirt giveaway) crowd at the Oracle arena for the Warriors' win over the Clippers. Anyway, very nice tune, simultaneously invigorating and relaxing. Nobody else sounds like Carlos.
You got THAT right! Any guesses as to the backing band?
8. See, they want you to think this song is about Colorado, but the trick is, it's really about Wyoming.
Would you believe that when I told the Colorado tourist board that this song was what inspired me to visit them, that was their response as well? As I was leaving, I coulda swore I heard 'em say, "Whew! Dodged a bullet on that one!"
This is from one of the later (Verve) albums by this famous guitarist that played a self-designed Gibson guitar with his name on it. I forget who the singer was… I'll have to look it up.
Don't know that this was ever released on an album proper, but you're definitely correct about the guitarist. I kinda sorta figured you'd recognize him (who I notice you didn't identify, but I know how you think, and you know how I think, and since I know that you know how I know that you know how I think, you are clearly referring to a great guitarist who wrote a song covered by and made famous by The Ventures. Of course, I'm talking about Chet Atkins.
)9. Fantastic rhythm section. Not wild about the tune, but the groove can't be denied.
Yyyyyyyyyyyyup!!!!
10. Wait- is this Dan Gould's BFT?
At any rate, what's not to like? One thing I'm sure of- that's Kenny Burrell on the guitar.It is indeed Burrell! The judges have ruled that an acceptable match, and now you can choose from one of our celebrities for the bonus match!
11. I liked this in the opening minutes, but tired a bit as it went on. Great foundation, I'll say that.
That was my first reaction as well, but after a few more listens it grew on me. Thankfully, it's not contagious.
12. Sonny Stitt?
Ohfercryinoutloud!!!! Can't I fool ANYONE besides myself???
14. Commmme and play… everything's- Ayyy-okayyy… Right?…
See, THIS is why you & I have been such pals over the years, and why I miss our regular correspondences (correspondi?): you nailed the EXACT reason for this tracks inclusion here!
In other words: right!!!
15. Well, this one's a gimme for me. I listened to this band constantly throughout the 70's, and saw them live a few times. "Way Back Home". The live version of this tune (recorded about a year later?) with the great band member intros at the beginning is the one that really gives me goosebumps to this day (40 years later). I'm tearing up just thinking about it, in fact.
A live recording of this? PLEASE do tell!!!
16. If you listen closely, this one is about Wyoming also.
Correct again, but then again what do I know? The Colorado tourism board wasn't happy to see me again, that's for sure!
17. Bee-YOOTY-ful. Would that be Ben? I've never heard this one, afaik.
Indeed that would! To paraphrase you, "Nobody else sounds like Ben!"
Okay, back to the top for me, and hopefully I'll come up with some more coherent thoughts.
That would be groovy!
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Gonna definitely be on the lookout for that Mulligan record. AND the Bobo record. But this whole BFT was a rollicking good time! Thanks again, Jim!
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Going out today, my man! Two discs, because like any good double-LP, it won't fit on one CD!
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Signup list updated. If you've received two PM's from me, use the Rapidshare link! The mediafire link was a bust thanks to my inability to properly remove tag info in the middle of the night...
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The download has been sent out. Let the discussion begin!
This was a pretty tough one to put together, despite the fact that I've been jotting down ideas for the last six months. I just haven't bought much music at all since my last BFT, and certainly nothing that would challenge anyone (as far as I was concerned). Funny thing is, as it was slowly coming together, a few themes started popping up here and there; whether or not they'll make sense to anyone besides me will be one of life's great (or not-so-great) mysteries, I s'pose.
At the last minute, I decided this should be experienced like a double-album, so I sequenced the songs to be listened in that way. To that end, I titled each track "Side #, track #" in hopes that your player will recognize the names.
There is a joke behind the "artist name" for each track, and if your player shows the album art I put together for this BFT, you may figure out that joke as well. For that matter, the album art has its own reason for existing, so add to the fun by trying to figure THAT out as well!
And yes, at some point this month I'll explain the whole "daughter's wedding" thing that a few of you asked about in the "delay" thread!
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To all-
Due to a boatload of circumstances over the last month (holidays, daughter's wedding, son's band stuff, church stuff, and the occasional financial crisis), my BFT is being delayed by about a week. I apologize for the delay, and will get everything out by the weekend.
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