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On 10/21/2020 at 5:20 PM, sidewinder said:
Stood right next to me in front of the Hammond digging Lonnie Smith with big smile on his face at a Lou Donaldson gig some years ago. Obviously a big fan.
Cool story, thanks!
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1 hour ago, felser said:
Agreed. Not just that Winwood kid (and whatever became of him, anyways, did he do anything else
), but Eddie Hardin was also really good.
Stevie Winwood was already known as a jazz musician even before he joined Spencer Davis. He played with Muff in a family traditional jazz band. Just to show what class and integrity SW had; when he was asked to perform in a Ray Charles Tribute concert in the UK as one of the lead acts, he told them he was nowhere near the level of artist that Ray Charles was, and that he would feel out of place performing at the concert.
RIP, Spencer Davis.
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14 hours ago, bertrand said:
Where are the tapes now? Does he have a list?
14 hours ago, bertrand said:Where are the tapes now? Does he have a list?
He's still got them. I don't think he has a list, but it was all at clubs in NY.
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My father played the guitar during the Depression, and tried to hit it big as a songwriter. The furthest he got was entering a Tommy Dorsey song contest with a song he wrote called "This Love of Ours", which he and my aunt gave to Buddy Rich when he was playing with Dorsey at a Hotel in NY.
The song later came out as a Sinatra hit called "This Love of Mine" with the melody changed enough so they couldn't sue them. There were three names on the song, Parker Sanicola and Sinatra, which was done because the lawyer my father consulted said it would be harder to sue three people rather than one or two.
, He had a love for music that never waned until he had a stroke at 79, because his carotid artery was 99% clogged up. He stopped listening to music for the last 14 years of his life, although he seemed to like the CD I made and never released.
Anyway, this seems to be a topic that holds a fascination here that never seems to be satisfied.. The MIA Teasing the Korean's father was much more accomplished than mine was, and probably had a fantastic collection. My father's was mainly guitar centered,but he had a thing for female vocalists like Cleo Laine,(he always said her voice was like a musical instrument), Sarah Vaughn, and Shirley Bassey(?). He never held anything against Sinatra, and had a few of his albums, but one album he bought that changed my life was the Verve album "The Great Guitars of Jazz". It had cuts by Kessel Herb Ellis, Tal Farlow, Wes, Howard Roberts and Oscar Moore. He also had "Piano and Pen", a Dick Katz LP that had Jimmy Raney on some cuts, and ,Chuck Wayne on the others. He also had a lot of Tony Mottola albums, but his favorites were Wes Montgomery and Django Reinhardt.
Every week he'd come back Friday with new albums. All the jazz albums had guitars on them, so I got to hear Gabor Szabo, Johnny Smith, Grant Green, Cal Green, Dennis Budimir, Rene Thomas, Kenny Burrell, Barry Galbraith, Lloyd Ellis ("The Fastest Guitarist in the World"), Gene Bertoncini, Mundell Lowe and Buudy Fite.
My uncle was more of a pure jazz buff, and when we went over his house, I spent all my time going through his record collection, until I wa called for dinner.
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23 hours ago, JamesAHarrod said:
The Previn and Kessel session was from AFRS Jubilee #204.
The Kessel/Ashby/Garrison/Paul session is from Jubilee #205, October 14, 1946. Arv' s wife, Vivian Garry also sang with the Benny Carter orchestra on this session.
I found the mp3 of the Jubilee concert with all four guitarists on the Old Radio Shows website. Garrison had the more polished technique of the four, although LP and IA had more exciting solos.At the end of the LP rendition of Honeysuckle Rose, there were four guitars playing in harmony, like LP's later double tracked recordings, but this was a live concert, so it had to be the four guitarists playing together.
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5 hours ago, JamesAHarrod said:
Garrison's chops are best displayed during the AFRS Jubilee concert where four of the finest guitarists of the time play, one after another. Barney Kessel plays Cherokee followed by Irv Ashby playing I Got Rhythm, then Arv playing How High the Moon, ending with Les Paul playing Honeysuckle Rose - all accompanied by Benny Carter's rhythm section. Garrison's performance demonstrates he was the equal of his peers.
I listened to the Jubilee concert online that had Andre Previn playing with Barney Kessel, but I didn't hear Arv Garrison playing How High the Moon".
Is there some recording of it? There was a very modernistic (for the time) arrangement of some band playing "Begin the Beguine" with the guitarist playing some interesting parts along with pizzicato strings. Was that Garrison?
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Wow! He was an excellent player. Kind of the missing link between Django, Charlie Christian and the bop players that followed him.
More melodically gifted than Chuck Wayne, a far superior player than Bill D'Arrango, stronger than Billy Bauer at that time, he definitely was one of the finest players of the 40s.
Thanks for posting that.
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It's hard to follow an artist all the way to the end. Towards the end, they usually go somewhere I don't like, lose what they used to have, or over- record and I know all their licks.
If they die young, or quit after hitting some type of wall, it's easier to have most of what they did. One example of that is:
Eddie Costa- dead at 31, but leaving behind an extensive discography as a studio musician. I think I have just about every jazz session he ever played on. He was just starting to add McCoy's bag to his playing when he died. Others that I have made a concerted effort to have a full discography of are:
Tal Farlow- Every note he played up to 1960, and then he lost it.
Joe Puma- I think I have most of it.
Dick Garcia- All I lack are private tapes of him jamming with his family on Sundays that his nephew has, but aren't for sale...
Ed Bickert- Just about all of his leader and sideman dates.
Jimmy Raney- I even have stuff never released.
Johnny Smith- all of it
Lenny Breau- all of it.
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5 minutes ago, JSngry said:
Joan Baez had the radio hit, and as always, the results were indeed dire,
Yeah, she's an incredibly talented singer/guitarist, but she changes the mood of most songs she covers into a weepy folk ballad.
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EVH had been in poor health for quite a while. RIP, EVH
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18 hours ago, Dave James said:
I was living with an ardent, over-the-top feminist when Reddy hit the big time with "I Am Woman". Nothing against Helen, but if I never hear that song again, it will be way too soon.
I Am Woman would've fit in great with this satire on the feminist movement on SCTV:
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On 10/5/2020 at 9:10 PM, JSngry said:
Sure you can. Depends on where you want to set that particular bar.
She was a pop star and had some talent who was also well-produced and who also benefited from the promotional machines that all popular pop starts do.
I don't think anybody cannot deny that.
There was a certain year when they started referring to pop stars as "recording artists", no matter how worthy their music was; probably in the late 60s. I always wondered who and what was behind that. HR was an artist when she sang a great tune like "You and Me Against the World" (we used to do it with funk kicks, which used to make it into even higher art), but what do you call her when she sings a hokey song like "Delta Dawn"? Then again, I saw a live version of her doing it on YT, and the band was effectively funkifying it, hence lifting it up to the level of art, so I guess it goes on a case by case basis.
And yet, Barry 'Manifold' was capable of creating good art when he wrote a song like "Could This Be the Magic", based on Chopin;s changes. Again, case by case.
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Alright, I deleted my stupid post, but the last post gives the impression HR wrote "You and Me Against the World" ( an excellent song), even if the poster didn't intend to give that impression. It was written by Kenny Ascher and Paul Williams.
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On 9/29/2020 at 9:24 PM, bluesForBartok said:
Excellent insight! Thanks a bunch sgcim! I'd be curious to hear some of the dixie versions using that cycle.
They don't use that cycle, they use the Ab major instead of Fminor.
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4 hours ago, bluesForBartok said:
I"m [slowly] learning Tristano's solo on a version of 'Back Home' from the 1952 (Live/Toronto) recording and there's this beautiful set of substitutions starting in bar 23 where normally, you resolve to the F minor but Lennie's playing 4 chords each for 2 beats across Fm to C7flat 9 and, to my ears, it sounds like M7 chords descending in 5ths starting on F#M7 so it's - F#M7 / | BM7 / | EM7 / | AM7 / and then, instead of jumping back to Fm he resolves to A flat M7. I get the AM7 being the flat II M7 into A flat so, if I'm correct, the preceding three chords are just a cycle approaching the flat IIM7am I even remotely close or are my ears playing tricks on me?
I know this is getting into super nerd-ville but this is the world of insanity I live in :-)
Thanks for looking!
Yeah, he's doing it on the solos, but I don't hear him doing it on the head. I look at subs like that as ascending in fourths, rather than descending in 5ths, because Major 7th chords don't really have a dominant function like Dominant 7th chords. You should write Maj7 chords using the "Maj7" designation or the triangle followed by a 7, because it can be easily confused with a Minor7th chord, even though you are using a capital "M". I can't stand reading charts that use M7 instead of m7, because I'm not sure what the arranger means.
The fact that Lennie uses that chain of Maj7ths to get to Ab rather than F minor goes back to the way swing and Dixie players used to play the tune. It always freaks me out that a swing band I play with always starts that last part of the tune on the tonic rather than the relative minor like Bird did on Donna Lee. Lennie had strong ties to the Swing Era, so there are a lot of examples of him using things from the Swing era,- eg. those closed voicings he uses.
The idea of using that type of sub is just an extension of a sub on a tune like "Autumn Leaves". In the key of G: Am7 D7 GMaj7 CMaj7 the Cmaj7 is an example of that kind of sub. Lennie is just extending it so it leads to the bII of AbMaj7. I just used that sub in my arr. for big band of a tune that stays on a Maj7 chord for two measures, to give more harmonic interest to the otherwise dull sound of a Maj7 chord for two measures at a slow tempo.
Lee was playing great back then; it's too bad he changed his way of playing later on. Warne and Lennie sound great, too!
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A friend of mine was so spooked by the pandemic in NY, he called me from his lawyer's office to tell me he had just left me his record collection of largely Blue Note records.
AFAIC, it will probably be like the scene in "Zorba the Greek", where the people raid the rich woman's house, grabbing things off her corpse, but in my case it will be the rest of my family.
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RIP to another one of the greats.
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Diz said back in the 60s:
I was waiting for the brothers to show up in the 50s, and I'm still waiting."
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17 hours ago, AllenLowe said:
that was the weird thing; I told him I had been very active in the music, and he clearly was uninterested. It was....odd. But that's life, as I've learned.
I actually had something coming up at the time at Lincoln Center, a teaching thing I would have used him on, but forget it. I felt too deflated.
He had cancer on and off for the last approximately ten years or so. Maybe it was on at that time.
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20 hours ago, AllenLowe said:
it was basically: "Hi, I was your student 50 years ago." He was perfectly cordial, but just kind of indifferent.
I'll have my analysts working on it 24/7. Will get back to you after a peer-reviewed study.
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The last gig I did before the pandemic was with a drummer who had recently come off the road with VM. I hope he's okay...
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10 minutes ago, JSngry said:
Well yeah, he definitely caused harm to people, not usually(?) directly or intentionally, but that shit definitely affected people's earning potential (note - potential).
So... hurt people are not predisposed to being kind, not should they be expected to be. When they are, hey, more power to them for rising above it all.
He came down on Phil Woods for some BS racial stuff, so his puppet , Wynton, thought he could get away with the same thing publicly, on a jazz cruise gig.
What he didn't know was the daughter of Chan and Phil was aboard the cruise, and she gave the puppet a piece of her mind.
Wynton was so embarrassed, he made a public apology to the people on the cruise. See "Cats of any Color" by Gene Lees for the full story.
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Very sad to hear that. I was aware of him since he played with Tal Farlow on one of those comeback albums after his break. He even looked like Tal Farlow. He was from Australia.
I played with him at a Jazz Festival Band that had Don Friedman and members of the VV band in it. Like Tal he was a nice, quiet person.
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That must be that place on Main St. in Cold Spring Harbor/Huntington. It's like the Smalls of Lawnguyland; only a certain circle of players get to play there. I think you've got to show them some secret tattoo or something.
Leo was one of those super talented guys who could be kind of moody. Send me a transcript of your conversation with him, and I'll have my team of analysts tell you what you said that rubbed him the wrong way.
RIP Jerry Jeff Walker
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At age 78. He'd been suffering from cancer for a while. RIP.