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Post-answer comments after having looked at the thread: I'd go with Red Tyler over Lee Allen Too bad about the Ra, I don't hear the discipline...but if he was sick and stuff, maybe that explains a lot of things... I though they were saying "Ravioli", not "Johnny Otis"...but the tempo thing on the intro, that should have stopped the take right there. I love Ran Blake, but not this cut. Then again, I never babysat Boo-Boo, so wtf do I know? Besides, The Short Life Of Barbara Monk is an unsung masterpiece. imo. Okay, Newton, figures. The guy is one of the best flutists on earth, period. A total master of the instrument in every sense. Zappa, eh? Interesting. The Carla cut is from Dinner Music. DOH!

A totally restful day has led to an insominatic night, so, the usual thoughts & disclaimers firmly in place, away we go. TRACK ONE - No idea. Tenor player sounds like a player with a distinct voice who is "role-playing" here just a little...but doing it quite well. Don't know if I'd buy this one, but it it was in radio rotation, I know I'd not touch the dial when it cam one. TRACK TWO - Well, we sure got some tuba here! Almost sounds like a later Gil Evans band, that ragged-but-in-a-together type way, might be, but the chart doesn't sound familiar, and Gil's bands didn't usually jump right into it right away like this one does. Performance is very enthusiastic, which might be equated with urgency in some eyes, if not mine...not totally sold on this one as a long-term investment, but it sounds sincere no matter what. I just think everybody sounds a little hyped-up, and they're not giving me any reason why they should be. TRACK THREE - Geez, that soprano tone is familiar...intonation is sharp-but-on-purpose (aka, playing on top of the pitch), fluency is quite evident...nice to hear everybody being conscious of space and melodic movement, not just flashing licks and concepts and thinking that it's automatically music...I like how the drummer almost gets too busy, but never really does... I think this might have been recorded at a time when players were still getting used to recording wearing headphones and being behind behind baffles and inside isolation booths and such...a couple of times there starts to be this disconnect in the interior time, but it never really happens, to everybody's credit. And is that Ron Carter on bass, or just somebody recorded like him. I suspect the latter, but one never knows... TRACK FOUR - WHOA! WTF happened? Drummer starts off at one tempo, band comes in with a resounding NO!!!! Supposed to sound like a Basie band, maybe a mid-late 40s version, but I ain't buying it, not after that intro...definitely a swing-bop intermingling thing going on though, which might account for the different time feels being brought into play...tenor could be an early Wardell, or...Lady Q? Historically interesting, whoever it is. TRACK FIVE - Almost gotta be John Kirby's group. Yeah, that's them, I recognize (I hope!) Procope on alto. You can criticize that for not having much/any improvisation and being "parlor music" of sorts, and ok, but...show me where that parlor is. I'd like to pay it a visit, probably a more-than-casual one. TRACK SIX - Harry James? There's absolutely no reason why this shouldn't be a total piece of corn. That it isn't speaks volumes to the old adage about ain't what you play, etc... Oh hell, wait, that sounds like Toots Mondello on lead alto, and that's BG on clarinet...Carnegie Hall concert? I've only heard the LP with the side-long jam w/Prez and this ain't on it...but, ok, I still think that's Harry James on trumpet, at least playing lead...yeah, this is good, especially how you can hear the audience and the band feeding off of each other. And so...that would be Jess Stacy? I had an uncle (Uncle Doyle, he was) who idolized Jess Stacy...cat was a banker, never played a note in his life, had a lot of, uh, "unkind" opinions about a lot of things and peoples, but he would probably have died to hear some Jess Stacy. As it is, he died of old age and kidney failure, and was in a coma the last moth or so of his life, but if he was hearing anything while he was in it, it was Jess Stacy. All things considered, not a bad thing to be hearing. TRACK SEVEN - Wellsir, that's a lot of piano. TRACK EIGHT - "Tin Tine Deo", geez, that's a beautiful tune that never really got covered wnough to make it the satandard I wish it was. I like the harmonic choices of the pianist here, very knowledgeable, and made from the inside out. Soloing, eh...maybe not so much...ok, but seems a little casusal, a lot of vocabulary without as much dialect as I prefer. Nut whoever it is gets kudos from me for voicings and overall harmonic awareness as it pertains to thematic statement. TRACK NINE - "Eronel". Not sure why, but this one isn't sitting just right with me. Then again, covering Monk, especially w/solo piano, is tricky. Too much deviation, too much copying, which way to go? I mean, ok, I hear the little deviations here, and thay're all legit enough, I suppose, but in the end, when I ask "why?", I'd like to get an answer. Not sure I'm getting one here, or at least one I can feel ok with. Then again, it ain't my record, so who says I have to? TRACK TEN - Sounds like The Ethnic Heritage Ensemble w/a bassist instead of Kahil. Ok, two basses. See, I don't even have to ask "why?" don't have to. That's my preference. Very nice tenor playing too...Ed Wilkerson? David Boykin? Somebody Chicago? Best (i.e. - my favorite) cut so far, damn near perfect. Excellent! TRACK ELEVEN - "Prelude To A Kiss". Wow, this is quite nice...again, I don't have to ask "why?" Damn that's good...masterful, both players. Don't know what they do on anything else, but on this one, they've resented truth and beauty. Kinda hard not to go for that. TRACK TWELVE - "Peace". Beautiful phrasing...again, there is playing on top of the pitch (NOT "sharp"!!!!). A little casual after the melody statement, though, turns into just another solo after really setting up a zone in the melody statement, not sure I get that. There's hints of that quirly vibrato thing that David Murray has, as well as an oh-so-subtle betrayal of finger insecurity......ah yes, a young, not fully formed Chico Freeman, from Spirit Sensitive. Chico...could have benefited from the old-school apprentice system, except that it didn't hardly exist any more when he came to NYC. Can't blame him, and he has matured. TRACK THIRTEEN - Tempo! People talk about groove, and yeah, that's right, but...tempo, baby, that too. PLEASE! And this is a tempo! Sounds like "real" "Latin" players too, not "latin-jazz"...heard a little thing that betrayed Eddie Palmieri there...yeah, gotta be. I don't know this one...you hear that trumpet reference the opening like of "Tin Tin Deo"? That might have been entirely accidental, but still...My real interest in Palmieri is as arranger and conceptualist, but there are some pretty damn amazing piano solos of his too...don't know that this is one of them, but it doesn't matter - they got the tempo! TRACK FOURTEEN - "Stolen Moments", with the right interior voicings! Not sure I dig the drumming...yeah, it's ok, just not recorded the way I'd prefer...really would have like to have heard the entire thing, there's little things (like glockenspiel?!?!?!) that are indicative of a fresh outlook, and that trumpet solo is just...DANDY! TRACK FIFTEEN - No idea, but I like the spirit. Is that Glenn Ferris on trombone? I believe it is. But damn if that organ doesn't put me in mind of Carla Bley...no matter. I dug it. TRACK SIXTEEN - The tempo fluctuations are a put-on, right? Why? Ok, nice comp, not too much of it that I knew. but a lot of it that I enjoyed, and two (possibly three, I'd like to have heard the full "Stolen Moments") total gems. Thanks!

Oh shit, this motherfucker is BURNING!!! The band sounds better - and is recorded better - the any of the Roulette albums of the same period. I can only imagine catching these guys on a club date...must've been something...

Sorry, won't be able to make it. Had hoped to, but a lot of personal affairs lately have had me feeling battered and bruised, and LTB & I have a chance to just chill at home the whole Labor Day weekend, just us two, in air-conditioned, isolated suburban splendor (or an illusory semblance thereof). Probably the best option available. Music may be the healing force of the universe, but right now that's music's and the universe's problem, not mine. Have a good gig, enjoy Dallas the few hours(?) you're here, and hopefully there will be a next time that I can promise to try to make it out to when I get my center of gravity feeling more spunktatious, ok?

You done been there and we done did that:

Ok, false alarm, just found the filter bar...how long has that been there, days, weeks, month? Years? Is there any way to keep that bar there? I mean, it can't be so annoying to so many people that it has to be hid, can it? And you know, in the old days, we'd done been to a million posts and beyond...this is my third "oh by the way,,," sudden impulse-post, and it'll all roll into one, I bet. Yep, all rolls into one. So we long past 1,000,000 real posts, y'all LONG past it...

Used to be that each sub-forum had the ability to view all topics by x-y days old, all the way to show all threads, from forever. Now that capaicut is gon. What's happened? The Musician's Forum is now only one page, and now only has 8 topics available - no way to go back into anything older than the how hard is it to play trombone thread. Something ain't right!

Yeah, that's good advice, some of which we've already begun to follow. The wildcard is this - is the phone actually repairable or not. Numerous independnt repair centers say it is, several of my daughter's electronic-savant-geek-friends insist that it is, only Nokia service center reps say that it's not, and they won't let go fo the "not covered by warranty" verbiage, which makes me question how stuck on autopilot they are. Nobody on Nokia's end has been able to extrapolate on to the specific damage that is rendering the phone allegedly unrepairable. If the phone has truly suffered irreparable damage, fine. Shit happens. But I feel that it is not at all unreasonable to be expect to be provided with a detail report upon demand. That's basic professional behavior. Oh well....onward...this ain't over, not just yet.

Maynard - 7/03/29 Maynard Ferguson - trumpet, conductor Don Sebesky - trombone Slide Hampton - trombone Charles Greenlee - trombone Jerry Tyree - trumpet Don Ellis - trumpet Chet Ferretti - trumpet Jimmy Ford - alto sax Wayne Shorter - tenor sax Willie Maiden - tenor sax Frank Hittner - baritone sax Joe Zawinul - piano Jimmy Rowser - bass Frankie Dunlop - drums

Has this one been noted yet? George Russell Sextet Concert 7/03/64 George Russell - piano Thad Jones - cornet Brian Trentham - trombone John Gilmore - tenor sax Steve Swallow - bass Albert Heath - drums Special guest, Sheila Jordan - vocals

We better send a scout on up ahead of us, just to check for marauders and such.

Did Plas Johnson routinely appear on Earl Grant records?

That's pretty much how it was going...

Cinque U. R. Welcome The Welcome Wagon

Translation - colon g MG No mouse was used in the creation of this emoticon!

Yeah, well, you know, this phone was $500.00 new. I know that's "disposable" income for many, but not in our house!

Hey, that's all I'm saying, nothing more.

Bill Barron and Jimmy Lyons? Together? w/Grimes & Cyrille? Live? I've glanced at what's available & found it intersesting, but not really compelling enough to pay for. Not these days. But this? FLAC, and in a hurry!

What happens when your drive gets wiped? (as happened to me). Can't beat non-erasable hard copy, IMO. That's why you download and then burn.

Robert Hooks Marvin Gaye Stanley Turrentine

Long story short - my daughter has a Nokia N-900 that suffered water damage & now needs the SIM-card reader replaced. She sends it to Nokia's own service center for repair. They send the phone back to her saying that they can't fix it b/c water damage voids the warranty. Well, Duh. They say that a 3rd-party service center will have to repair it. All of them inspect the phone, diagnose the problem, and send the phone back saying that they can't get that part, only Nokia has it. The phone goes back to Nokia, who says that they can't fix it, to send it to a 3rd party service center will have to repair it. We (yeah, oit's reached "we" status now...) tell Nokia that no, that's not a solution, and they say that they can't fix it b/c the part is "unavailable". Apparently the parts are held under armed guard for use only in manufacturing, none for repair. NO PARTS FOR YOU!!! Or something. We were told by the last CS person with whom we spoke - a totally impotent little man (in character anyway) named Jacob, that he was the highest level available for public outreach, that we could not - WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO - reach anybody else. These guys obviously suck donkey dix with both glee and abandon. We've made it very clear that we are willing to pay for repair. WE WILL GIVE THEM MONEY!!! They don't want our money, or our business. My daughter just turned 20, and by any reasonable standard has another 50 years of consumer electronic purchases ahead of her. And she has friends, and yeah, they talk. A lot, in fact. Too bad, not important to Nokia. They can't get the part that they themselves make. How big of a jackoff is THAT? Anybody got any ideas where to go with this? If you have specific information/contacts that you'd rather not share in a public forum, feel free to send an email through the board (PM box pretty much is stuck on full). Confidentiality guaranteed. Thank you.

Gives a whole new twist to upload vs. download....