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  10. Woodstock - How Much Were They Paid?

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    17 hours ago, felser said:

    I'll see your Archie Whitewater (which I am quite enjoying, thanks!) and raise you a Good God - excellent covers of John McLaughlin's "Dragon Song" and Zappa's "King Kong".  

    Image result for good god king kong

    I'll call you (in Canadian dollars) with Lighthouse, even though they had a 45 hit. They were on some really weirdass unlikely label and did more than one album. But geez, who will buy, as that song said.

  11. Ubiquitous Budget Label Percussion Session(s) with Sabu and Chief Bey

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    Check out this comment here: https://nathannothinsez.blogspot.com/2007/11/taboo-modern-record-story.html

    These records have a fascinating history. Subri Moulin's LP first appeared on the RKO label where it was called 'Jungle Beat'. RKO shortly thereafter went kaput and Tops/Mayfair reissued it as 'Jungle Percussion'. OK so far. But then it gets complicated.

    When what appeared to be the same record popped up on Pirouette/Riviera/Hallmark/Sutton and a fistful of other bargain-basement labels, things were a bit different. For example, Pirouette tacked on ping-pong left-right intros to the tracks. And most of the bargain reissues (including Pirouette) did not do a straight reissue of the RKO/Tops original. Only about half the tracks were used, and the rest of the LP filled out by tracks that don't appear on the originals. Whether they were unused Subri tracks, or something contributed by other artists (like the anonymous Studio Group?), I have no way of knowing. Etunde, Yarbon, and Ah De Vous for example are on most of these later pressings, but do not appear on the original RKO/Tops/Mayfair LP that is credited to Subri Moulin. And then this later mix of tracks was reissued further with entirely different names made up for each song! (All the better to confuse the unwary buyer.)

    Meanwhile iTunes and other sources are offering an mp3 of the RKO original, mastered not from the original tapes but from a somewhat noisy vinyl LP. But it's good enough for me to verify the tracks that match with the many later pressings.

    https://www.discogs.com/Subri-Moulin-And-His-Equatorial-Rhythm-Group-Jungle-Beat/release/1241036

  15. Bruckner breakthrough

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    Don't know about breakthroughs or anything like that, but I was in the room when the DSO did Bruckner 7, and it was nothing short of mesmerizing. Also in the room for Bruckner 8, which was very good, but not mesmerizing.

    I think that's the key to any "breakthrough", you have to be seduced in a way, mesmerized, drawn into it past the point where your attention might otherwise dissipate, and then your resistance slowly fades until, boom, it's gotcha. And then, it won't let go, nor do you want it to.

  16. Woodstock - How Much Were They Paid?

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    Yeah, I mean, all this stuff is pretty much irrelevant now, for me anyway. OOOOH, a "rock" band that has competent players that can jam and "get it on"...when I had a low ceiling of impressibility, that mattered a fair bit. Nowadays...who cares? About rock and/or jamming and or "getting it on"? I keep it in the memory bank because its there, and probably can't be removed without brain surgery and/or trauma, and who wants that?, but otherwise...

    Still, Quill? Really? Talk about "white privilege"...in an event essentially predicated on that dynamic, there's Exhibit A! :g :g :g

    If we want to reminisce about "jazz rock" bands that people on the finger of one hand have heard of, I'll open the bidding with Archie Whitewater. But remember, all sales final, no refunds!

  19. Stan Getz Quartet at the Village Gate November 26th, 1961

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    1 hour ago, AllenLowe said:

    to me this doesn't sound like Trane speaking. Even if he thought it I don't think he would say it. Not that kind of guy,

    and even if he did say something like that (and something like that, I could entertain the possibility of having been said), I seriously doubt is was about skin color as much as culture, background, life experience, desired outcomes. I mean, did anybody say that about Pepper Adams? For that matter, did Pepper Adams openly nurse bruises from The Mean Black People not "welcoming" him?

    Hell, Bill Evans had a hard time (internally) doing a "free" improvisation with Paul Bley...could you see him, or Steve Kuhn, going the distance on "Africa" or "India" or anything like that? 

    And could you see Steve Kuhn dropping that big 4 with Elvin and then riding that wave all the way into the next one?

    Different worlds. Nothing wrong with that.

  20. Woodstock - How Much Were They Paid?

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    I succumbed to peer pressure and went to a Chicago concert somewhere during my high school years and Madura opened (I think they were managed by the same guy, that Guercio dude). I was really NOT liking Chicago by then, but was pleasantly surprised with Madura. Never bought any records or anything, but the name stuck, and in the 45 or so years since, I've met, like, at most 3 people who have heard of them.

    I mean, today, bfd, right? But compared to Quill??????

     

  24. Stan Getz Quartet at the Village Gate November 26th, 1961

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    Perry-Mason-Raymond-Burr.jpg

    Ah, so possibly hearsay.

    Anyway, no doubt vibes, if not form Coltrane himself, then around the area, audience, especially. The Simpkins book goes into some of that.

    Quite apart from the sociology, it wouldn't have worked, not like McCoy did. It surely would have been "nice", but Trane wasn't looking for "nice". Listening that trio from the Getz album, I hear somebody really trying to push the Bill Evans concept through to a "next level". Which is all well and good, but again, Trane had no need to want that. McCoy was what he wanted, what he needed, and what he got. Unlike many, I actually liked what Alice came in with, but Alice's relationship to McCoy is kinda like Kuhn's to Evans.

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