patricia

The mystery is no mystery. This was the post to which I made reference. It stood unobjected to. Was I being thin-skinned??

Son of Weizen, Thank you for drawing attention to the "C" word, used, un-objected to earlier. I was struck dumb, not believing that it was allowed to stand, considering that it is as offensive to women as the "N" word is to African Americans. Because nobody raised the issue, I started to think that I was being thin-skinned. GROPER, Your referring to me, earlier, using the dreaded and mega-offensive "C" word was crossing the line. I do hope that it is not a part of your vocabulary in your real life, since even in the "pseudo-intellectual" [another of your references] circles in which I travel, that alone would be a clear invitation to an ass-kicking. No excuse for that. I don't know you and have no idea what your attitude toward women is. As for your put-down of my apparant intellect, I am fairly well educated, but hardly an intellectual, much less a "pseudo" one. As for my "crossing the pond" to the Blue Note board, I doubt it. I've spent seven years on various boards on this side and have made many friends, including the person who has just been banned. They know that when he and I have exchanged comments on various threads, they were not serious, but just word tennis. Nobody has taught me as much about jazz and jazz history as he has and this Dr Hyde personality, sprinkled liberally with real, first-hand jazz knowledge got out of hand. He does have an over-the-top manner, as a poster, which is, I think, taken too literally. My role in these exchanges, over the years, has always been one of reasonableness in the face of insanity, much like in my real life. I am hopelessly conventional and I guess most of my friends find that strange. I do post on other threads here and am most interested in seeing others' opinions and suggestions of jazz to look for and listen to. In any case.....................

Eric, I don't own a Grove Dictionary, but I do own a shelf of jazz bios and other reference books, from which I drew interesting, I thought, bits and pieces in order to compose the apparantly superfluous bios. I don't know how to "cut and paste", so I actually had to write the bios, using my reference material. It was my futile attempt to inject some sanity to the thread. I don't do imitations of anybody, or anything. I subsequently deleted the bios, sensing that the thread had become a spectator sport. My apologies if my diversionary tactic was ineffective.

Put up any pickles lately? How's that freezer workin'? That tonic salesman been back? I don't know if I'm who Out to Lunch was calling Aunt Bea and was asking for clarification, since I seem to be the only woman posting here. It's actually kind of interesting to have someone ask to have me banned. Even when I hung with a rowdy crowd in college, which was always getting kicked out of bars and clubs, I was never banned in my life. Makes me feel kind of reckless and wild. I was always the quiet and sensible one in the group and was usually the only one not to be kicked out or in some cases, taken away by the constabulary. As for putting pickles *up*, of course not. I discovered that I could buy perfectly good pickles at the store, thereby avoiding the inconvenience and expense of buying jars and risking certain and absolute failure at this time-honoured exercise. I only have the little freezer part that comes, at no charge, with my fridge. As for the tonic salesman, I had high hopes, but that trampy neighbour woman has her net out and she always snags all the good ones that happen by. The fried chicken recipe is a wash. I'm a vegetarian, so I would only be guessing. Sorry.

Am I Aunt Bea?? I posted here, but I wasn't aware that I had offended anyone. Is everyone who posted on this thread, no matter what they posted, banned?? That, it seems to me, would include you too. Just asking.

That pickup truck must be unlike any other pickup truck in the civilized world. If he's lost, we shouldn't have any trouble finding it.

"The fist" my ASS!! WHERE THE FUCK IS *GOOBER*?? How long does it take to drive a herd of sheep to Dodge City in a pickup truck?? He shoulda been back hours ago. (Maybe the turn signal on his truck broke down and he didn 't know his right hand from his left to use hand signals) [Or maybe his left hand was doin' somethin' nasty with his peepee!!] I'm bustin' a fuckin' gut. This cat has gotta be a piece o' work. DEEP Nobody drives a herd of sheep to town in a pickup truck. They wouldn't all fit in a pickup truck. Sheep are BIG. A herd of sheep would be herded to Dodge by a shepherd, with one of those crooked stick things, guided only by a star in the East. Holy man. City folk!!!

And yet peacocks, which have many plumes extruding from their posteriors, are considered quite dignified. Oh the irony.

I would have to say that the decision will have to be taken under advisement. With plumes protruding from their butts, already making them look really stupid, why further undermine their inherent dignity as a fellow human being, by making them also wear the hat?? That would be just mean.

You are lightening fast, Moose. I've been having a problem that involves me having to "back" and then when I press "add reply" again, the comment appears twice. I then have to delete one. I don't know what is causing the error message, but you're the first one who has seen the comment appearing twice. Sorry about that. It was an equipment malfunction and not a reason for me to wear the coveted "goober" beanie. You're not stupid. You're just unbelievably fast.

I think that one's already taken by another poster on this thread... Some days I think that we are a whole roomful of idiots, including me. So I reserve the right to dignify the designation as someone with brief lapses in intelligence, but generally thoughtful and caring individuals, posting profound truths, indespersed with shots of whimsy. None of us can predict our own lapses into stupidity, due to overtiredness, or overindulgence in the grain or the grape and subsequent posting here instead of getting some sleep.

definition provided by Hot Diggity. The definition of goober or other words, or any other opinions expressed by Hot Diggity do not represent the sentiments of this poster or the Organissimo posting forums. The surgeon general has determined that definitions may cause loose stool. Void where prohibited. Love it. Love it!!! OR to quote one of our own frequent and succinct posters, DUH!!! Although it's always risky to describe someone else as a goober, or as less than brilliant. We never know when any one of us, having said something really stupid, may have to take over the wearing of the designated GOOBER HAT. I believe that it is a purple and puce beanie, with eighteen giant plumes affixed.

There is no Santa Claus, just unofficial representatives, in fake beards on every street corner. There is no Easter Bunny, as evidenced by the pictures of him supposedly carrying a basketful of chocolate eggs. Faked, obviously, since rabbits have no opposable thumb. Similarly, there is no BIG BROTHER GOOBER. A goober is a peanut, and peanuts are not in positions of power and authority. So, rest easy.

Patricia, who called you a name? Was it, er, one poster in particular--one with two personalities? (And I don't mean Dr. Achtung or the Red Menace. ) If so, shall we prepare a nice long rail? I'll bring the tar and feathers... I've, as you see, forgotten all about it and am now as mellow as ever. But, thank you for the offer of the requisite tar, feathers and a rail to run whoever it was out of town. I say again though, I've forgotten all about it. No worries.

My mod a-go-go stretch elastic pants. Technically not a body part, but they show all of'em, so close enough. Please. I'm just about to eat my lunch. I do hope you don't also have a thong that you wear on top of your stretch pants, with a contrasting tank top. YEWWW.

So, you're the one!!!!!

Well, Sheldon. "Twerp" is pretty mild, in the great tradition of name calling. I have been called worse, on this very board and I'm afraid reacted badly. Being called a name is indeed hurtful and disrespectful, but keeping our heads, while all around us folks are losing theirs is still the best tactic. Responses are a natural reaction, but respectful rebuttal, keeping our eye on the ball, is always best. Any other tactic results in saying things here that just make it worse. I know that as well as anybody. Nobody died. So, there's that. Dan. I agree with you. Nobody can be expected to totally ignore derogatory comments directed at them, although I keep remembering my mother saying that responding to insults only encourages the person insulting us to ramp up the tirade. I tend to react with my gut as well. Not good. But, what else can I do?? I know that ignoring and moving on is the best, but I am who I am, a scrapper. What can I tell you??

Combine the two and you need an engineer to get the statics right. Exactly. I've often wondered just who these freaks attract. But, that's just me I guess.

Jazzy Paul, I think I asked Dan G. about that, quite a while ago. He did explain the whole thing, from his standpoint and I thought it was resolved or at least, at an impasse. I guess not.

There used to be a stripper named "Busty Russell" who, during the height of the silicone breast craze had a SIXTY-FOUR INCH pair of appendages, attached to her chest. I always thought she would tip over. Why is that considered sexy?? This was a regular sized person!!! Plastic surgeons are getting rich on these operations and I fail to see how an abnormally monstrously large set of tits makes a woman more sexy than a woman with normal, in proportion to her overall size ones. What is that about?? Same with the penis enlargement operations. I feel moved to quote the adage, "Tis not the size of the magician's wand, but the magic contained therein, which coaxes the rabbit out of the hat." Monstrously large breast and penis enlargement operations??? Ridiculous!!!

That reminds me of my mother's upright piano, whose middle "C" had a little nick on the edge. When I was a little kid taking piano lessons, and was practicing, that was a real help. I would start there and work my way left and right, to do the scales. On my computer, the backspace is truly gross.

I fail to see the problem with informing posters here, some of whom post on other boards, for different reasons, that there is an outage at AAJ or JC, or even sharing information from other sites that they have found interesting. Perhaps mentioning the links is a no-no, but sometimes enthusiasm gets the best of even the most loyal Organissimo poster. To forbid, or put down other sites as being disloyal to this one would, IMO, be similar to a friend who doesn't want us to have other friends, who move in different circles, as well as our own. I know that Dan G. had a problem with Mike, regarding a project he was receiving help from AAJ posters with. From what I gather, there was some question of whether Dan was appropriatly grateful for the help he received. Name-calling ensued and "twerp" was bandied about, as well as some other derogatory terms, from both sides. Dan G. is a fiery soul and does have a unique way of expressing his thoughts. No blood was shed. Dan and Mike and Jim are all good guys. Let's move on already.

I tend to think of Williams and Jones as as well as Don Gibson, as being the equivilant of some of the great blues singers, both genres having a spiritual kinship with the original jazz singers. REAL C+W, like the original r&b comes from adversity and struggle, but by poor white people, Charlie Pride notwithstanding. The originals were real, expressing first hand experiences much like the troubadours of centuries gone by. They are historians, of a kind, if you will. Stack that against Dwight Yoakum with his posing and tight jeans, big hat etc. and the exorable Hank JR. No comparison. It pains me to hear the commercial dreck that passes as C+W today. No soul. No heart. No passion. Just the deafening sound of CA CHING!!! Obscene!!!! I was actually going to apologize for digressing from JAZZ, when I realized that nobody's really talking about JAZZ on this thread, exclusively, although there has been some passing mention of it. For some reason, I was thinking of Louis Armstrong's totally mirrored bathroom, photographed in LIFE magazine, years ago. Such ostentatiousness, I remember thinking at the time. Of course, that was before we started seeing present day C+W artists' and Rap Artists' houses. Conspicuous consumption, turned into a virtue. Pinky rings with diamonds the size of Victorian glass doorknobs, and gold jewelry by the pound, worn all at once. Tacky. Tacky.

Moose, the Hank Williams I mentioned was Hank Williams JR, not the great Hank Williams Sr, dead at twenty-nine, a legend in his own time. Booze and drugs destroyed Hank the first, before it was fashionable, back on New Year's Day, 1953. His entire career was crammed into four years, ALL of it on the road. His compositions, "You Win Again" "Kawliga", "Your Cheatin' Heart", "Hey Good Lookin' ", "Jambalaya", "Cold Cold Heart", "Settin' The Woods On Fire" and "I Saw The Light" among tons of others. Not bad, for a four year career. Jones probably comes the closest, for me, to being a C+W singer, still alive today, with an honest message, who is not an obscenely nouveau riche poseur, much like some politicians who pretend to be ordinary folks. I'm not a huge country music aficianado, but Hank Sr and George Jones are guilty pleasures of mine. "You Win Again" and "He Stopped Loving Her Today" invariably bring a tear to this scribe's eye. Hank Jr is a poseur, compared to his daddy, IMO. So, it's not that I don't appreciate good C+W music. There just isn't much I can get with these days.

Absotively!!!