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  1. I learned recently that sometime in the late 1950s or possibly very early 1960s, Nelson Riddle wrote some arrangements for Count Basie.  These were apparently played live by the Basie band, but not recorded.

    In 1962, Riddle gave four of the arrangements to British Bandleader Vic Lewis, who recorded them for a UK EP titled Vic Lewis Swings Nelson Riddle.

    https://www.discogs.com/release/11391413-Vic-Lewis-Vic-Lewis-Swings-Nelson-Riddle?srsltid=AfmBOopYLbhLVZrSkgJZaU4aCj7trkcQH6EClXH1tvGTrgk8qT3xsv8J

    I can't find these on the InterTubes, but here is a recent live video of one of the arrangements.

     

  2. On 7/27/2025 at 1:48 PM, SMB1968 said:

    How about the new Adam O'Farrill album For These Streets?  Not standards, but a noir-inspired suite.

    Not familiar, but will check it!  

    Is it all instrumental?  I'm really looking for certain types of lyrics with this thread, but thanks for the suggestion, regardless. 

  3. I've accumulated a lot of her LPs, mainly because of John Dankworth involvement, and most of these are still in the massive "to be cleaned" section, decades later.  Maybe I need to do something about this.

  4. Of those early '70s Tjader Fantasy LPs, I have Tjader & Funky Quarters. I generally like these albums, but I don't like the sound of the Fender Rhodes piano with the vibes.  They share a similar timbre, and they sometimes sound like mud when they are playing together.  Granted, piano players had limited instrument choices for live gigs in the early 70s.

  5. So it looks like I have all the Verve LPs with the exception of Hip Vibrations.  

    From the first Fantasy period, I probably have about half of them.  

    I think I have two Skye albums, and then a few scattered releases from after his return to Fantasy.

    I typically gravitate toward the Verve albums, but there is so much great stuff from that first Fantasy period.  

     

  6. 13 hours ago, mikeweil said:

    1 - In A Latin Bag -  1961 - basically his regular band with Paul Horn and Armando Peraza added. Mongo Santamaria and Willie Bobo had left, replaced by Wilfredo Vicente and Johnny Rae. Lonnie Hewitt played piano. Very elegant, very professional production, less casual than with Fantasy, but recorded in LA.

    "Triste" (not to be confused with the Jobim tune) is the money cut on here, though the whole album is great.

    13 hours ago, mikeweil said:

    6 - Several Shades of Jade - 1963

    This may be an attempt to profit on some type of exoctica fashion, but Lalo Shifrin's great arrangements make this a winner. New York studio guys play their asses off for a perfect backdrop for Tjader to solo on - this is as much a Schifrin as a Tjader album. 

    Agreed, and I might go a tad further and call it a Schifrin album with Cal as guest soloist.

    13 hours ago, mikeweil said:

    7 - Breeze From The East - 1964

    In an interview, Tjader confessed that he vomitted when he left the sudio after a mixing session. This may be exaggerated, but it definitely is the un-jazziest album he ever made. The number of preliminary sessions  and outtakes tells the story of how ill-conceived this mismatch of producer/arranger Stan Applebaum and Tjader was. In my ears, it fails even as an exotica album. Not nearly as Japanese as the cover suggests.

    Completely agree.  It sucks as both jazz and exotica, although the version of "Black Orchid" is nice (and almost identical to the Fantasy version).

  7. Not being a fan of Star Wars, and not being into John Williams per se, I'm learning only now that in 1980, Ron Carter released an album of themes from The Empire Strikes Back, titled Empire Jazz.

    Has anyone heard it?

  8. 12 hours ago, mikeweil said:

    The last of his Verve LPs to be release, although it was the next-to-last recording. A basic quartet with Tjader, Joao Donato on a Farfisa organ, Red Mitchell, and Ed Thigpen recorded the basic tracks in California, Don Sebesky was sent the tapes and lead sheets and had strings, voices, and fluegelhorn and flute overdubbed a few months later. His arangements are tasteful, but I would love to hear the quartet without them. Donata on organ was a perfect match for Tjader. Some perfect summer evening music. Sounds easy, but play music like this on such a tasteful, professional level before downplaying it as lounge music. One of my favourites. On CD only in Japan, btw.

    I expected this to be a like a proto-CTI record, given the year and Sebesky's involvement.  Instead, it sounds more like a space-age bachelor pad record from the early 1960s, in a good way. 

     

  9. 5 hours ago, Big Beat Steve said:

    Just wondering ... Seeing that description and the imagery it is supposed to project, would you go along with Stan Kenton's/Bob Graettinger's CITY OF GLASS? 

    Or would this be too far out? ;):w

    Oh, absolutely, in terms of instrumental music, but a lot of what I'm looking for here is songs with lyrics with a pulpish, Raymond Chandler-esque bag.

    On 6/29/2025 at 11:26 AM, randyhersom said:

    Way late to the party, but would Harlem Nocturne have worked?

     

    It would have, and it still does!  I should know this, but are there lyrics, and if so, is there a vocal version you would recommend?

    On 6/29/2025 at 11:53 AM, JSngry said:

     

    This almost sounds like a spaghetti western tune!!!

  10. This page features digital rips of obscure 45s in this micro-genre. It is a fantastic resource.

    The Lonely Beat captures a period–specific set of images, motifs and themes associated with the modern, post–War American city. It is a world in sound that was based in reality as well as reconstructed within the media and pop culture.

    American cities reflected a changing socioeconomic and cultural reality in the post–War decades. The pursuit of home ownership following World War II meant an acceleration of a white demographic's relocation from the city to its mushrooming suburbs, a shift that would exacerbate economic disparities and urban segregation, especially for black populations. Even as their economic fortunes began to founder, however, cities remained a center of media, publishing and advertising as well as fashion, design, architecture and entertainment. Moreover, the American city – in this case most clearly identified with, though not necessarily limited to, New York City – would attract a new cohort of artists, becoming in the process a crucible for new visual and performance art, dance, the literary arts, music, theater and film.

    Many aspects of mid–century city life and culture were remade and romanticized in pop culture, a hard–boiled, bohemian version of the city in particular developing in novels, short stories and television and film dramas. This was the version of the city that became seated in the popular imagination, the city that was a sort of labyrinthine nexus of underworld forces, exotic lifestyles and minority populations. The potency of this confabulation would only increase as white populations retreated further into the suburbs.

    Popular music became a major vector for this image of the city. Music sustained an idea of the city as sexy and stylish, dangerous and decaying. It was the foreboding Metropolis, gangland Gotham, the Naked City, the Asphalt Jungle, bohemia, the mean streets. It was a place of after-hours intrigue and rendezvous - it was a place of crime, juvenile delinquency, corruption, lurking evil - and men who sought to stop these forces. As portrayed in music, the city was at its most mysterious and atmospheric; there was a romance in its solitude. It was skyscrapers, streets, wharfs, fogs, smoky nightclubs. Crucially, too, the city was where black communities lived, along with ethnic populations of every stripe. In this sense there was, like exotica, an element of the Other about the city, some world that aroused Middle American anxieties and fantasies. 

    All of these images, motifs and clichés are evident in post–War popular music.

    https://exoticaproject.com/2/

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