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  7. Lee Morgan At The Both/And Club June 1970

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    Posted · Edited by david weiss

    This came out on Fresh Sound as "Live at the Lighthouse" and said to be outtakes from The Lighthouse.  Maupin put the record straight when nothing was found in the Blue Note archives.

    This is wrong. There is plenty in the Blue Note archives and it is different from this material. The discographies linked here have it pretty correct as far as the material is concerned (except that Jack DeJohnette only sat in on one tune, not the whole set). I listened to everything recorded when I helped put the 3 CD set together. I don't believe Bennie ever said anything regarding what was found in the archives. He came to the studio one day when we were working on this to listen to some of the stuff and give us some feedback.

    This came out on Fresh Sound as "Live at the Lighthouse" and said to be outtakes from The Lighthouse.  Maupin put the record straight when nothing was found in the Blue Note archives.

     

    does maupin claim that all the lighthouse rejected takes listed at the link below no longer exist in the blue note vaults?

    http://www.jazzdisco.org/lee-morgan/discography/#700710

     

    I'm sure Maupin never claimed this. They are still all in the archives. 

    It's a nice set. I don't believe the location has ever been conclusively determined—Maupin says Both/And but the piano sounds the same as the Lighthouse.

    I don't think Bennie ever claimed this either. He did say they did a week or two at the Both/And before they did the Lighthouse and may have said they did a radio broadcast or maybe not. I think Bob Belden was the only one to claim it was the Both/And and I really don't know what he based this on. I got the feeling it was just to not have two Lighthouse recordings out there and make the Blue Note set the definitive thing to own. 

    I said at the time that the other material came from the Lighthouse as well. They were there for two weeks and only recorded for three days towards the end of the engagement so there was plenty of time for someone else to record the band. It's clear the "bootleg" recording is not Blue Note out takes (and I know this for sure). I also know that Fresh Sound bought a number of tapes recorded at the Lighthouse from Howard Rumsey (though they never cleared the rights to release them from the artists) and on the original issue of the CD, they thank Rumsey in the credits. The more recent issue of the CD gives the following credit.....Original recording produced by Howard Rumsey.

    How much more proof do you need to confirm this was indeed recorded at the Lighthouse but just earlier in the run.

    Isn't this the source for the only Lee Morgan version of the Maupin tune "The Chief"? - the studio version being on the still UNreleased half of that one Morgan session that was used as bonus tracks on "The Sixth Sense"?

    iirc

    Yes. I always wondered why when they didn't include this tune when making the live recording. They did not attempt it once during the three nights they had the tapes rolling for Blue Note. 

    I remember originally buying the Fresh Sound set thinking that this was a reissue of the Blue Note 'Live at the Lighthouse' and being initially disappointed with the sonics. Can't argue with the quality of the music though - it's up to the standard of the Blue Note set. I subscribe to the 'Both/And' gig being the origin of this one, although that is an interesting comment above about the piano sonics - radio airshot?

    No....not Both/And, I'm almost certain of this. Clearly Rumsey recorded stuff on his own sometimes. A radio airshot would not have as much crowd noise I think.....

    maupin's statement seems confusing since the rejected takes are listed in lord. unless what maupin is saying is that they were destroyed or are missing. i asked belden about these a long time ago, and i don't think that he had them, so they may indeed be missing. but then how would belden have gotten all the new tracks for the 3cd reissue. i would think that all the reels would be stores in one location.

    Bennie is clearly misquoted. All the material is still safely in the Blue Note vaults......Belden had DATs for all of it. I listened to all of them and chose all the takes for the Blue Note set.

     

  18. CDs and DVDs For Sale

    in Offering and Looking For...

    Posted · Edited by david weiss

    House cleaning again and unloading some CDs a friend dumped on me.....

    A lot of these were not kept in a very clean environment and I would recommend new jewel cases.

    Postage is $3.00 for the first CD shipped in a nice mailer and .50 each additional CD.

    Shipping outside the US is actual postage costs.

     

    $10 Sealed Japanese CDs (promo sticker on back cover)

    Don Sleet "All Members" (Masters of Jazz Series 20 bit K2 HQ CD)

    Ray Draper Quintet Featuring John Coltrane (Masters of Jazz Series 20 bit K2 HQ CD)

    Johnny Griffin Quartet "Way Out" (Masters of Jazz Series 20 bit K2 HQ CD) Sold

    George Wallington Quintet "The New York Scene" (Masters of Jazz Series 20 bit K2 HQ CD) Sold

    The Junior Cook Quintet "Junior's Cookin'" (Masters of Jazz Series 20 bit K2 HQ CD) 

    The Jackie McLean Quintet "Lights Out" (Masters of Jazz Series 20 bit K2 HQ CD) Sold

    Ornette Coleman "Something Else" (Masters of Jazz Series 20 bit K2 HQ CD)

    George Wallington Quintet "Jazz For the Carriage Trade" (Masters of Jazz Series)

     

    $8 Sealed Japanese CDs (promo sticker on back cover)

    Don Friedman Trio "Circle Waltz" (Masters of Jazz Series)

    Johnny Griffin Quartet "Way Out" (Masters of Jazz Series)

    Lee Konitz "Subconscious-lee" (Masters of Jazz Series)

    Ted Curson "Fire Down Below" (Masters of Jazz Series)

    Johnny Griffin "The Little Giant" (CD Masterpiece Series) 

     

    $7

    Chet Baker "At Onkel Po's Carnegie Hall" Hamburg 1979 Jazz Line NDR (Sealed) Sold

    Steve Coleman and Five Elements "The Mercy of Sound" Pi

    Tina Brooks "Back to the Tracks" Connoisseur

    Roy Haynes "Cracklin" OJC

    Booker Ervin "The In Between" Connoisseur (a couple of light scuff marks that doesn't effect play)

    Booker Ervin "Groovin' High" OJC (a couple of light scuff marks that doesn't effect play)

    Booker Ervin "Exultation" OJC

    Eric Dolphy "Far Cry" American Jazz Classics

    Jaki Byard Quartet with Joe Farrell "The Last From Lennie's"

    Cannonball Adderley "Paris 1960" (promo. hole punch through bar code)
     
    Kenny Burrell "Blue Lights" Volume 1 & 2 SBM 2 CDs (promo sticker on both CD's. Booklet is slightly stained)
     
    Sonny Clark "Leapin' and Lopin" plus 2 1988 Japanese pressing (promo sticker on back cover)(a couple of light scuff marks that doesn't effect play)
     
    Andrew Hill "Grass Roots" Connoisseur (promo sticker on CD)
     
    Grant Green "Iron City" 32 Jazz (promo. mark through bar code)
     
    Charles Mingus "In Paris" 2 CDs (Promo. Hole punch through bar code) Tray card is a bit water damaged.
     
    Fats Navarro "Goin' to Minton's" Savoy Jazz Original (promo. mark through bar code)
     
    Chet Baker "Chet in Paris" Cheryl. The Complete Barclay Recordings of Chet Baker Volume 3
     
    Bobby Hutcherson "Mirage" 32 Jazz (promo. mark through bar code)
     
    Johnny Griffin "Griff n Bags" Rearward Hold
     
    Greg Osby "The Invisible Hand" (promo sticker on CD)
     
    David S Ware "Surrendered" Sealed (Promo. Hole punch through bar code)
     
    The Super Quartet of Mal Waldron featuring Steve Lacy "Live at Sweet Basil" Evidence (a couple of light scuff marks that doesn't effect play)
     
    Maria Schneider Orchestra "Sky Blue" (a couple of light scuff marks that doesn't effect play and the booklet is pretty beat up) Sold

    Maria Schneider Orchestra "Concert in the Garden" Promo Sold

    Maria Schneider Orchestra "Days of Wine and Roses" Sealed Sold
     
    Maria Schneider Jazz Orchestra "Evanescence" Enja (a couple of light scuff marks that doesn't effect play) Sold
     
    Maria Schneider Orchestra "Allegresse" Enja Sealed (cut out notch in spine) Sold
     
    Maria Schneider Jazz Orchestra "Coming About" Enja (a couple of light scuff marks that doesn't effect play) Sold
     
    Dewey Redman & Elvin Jones & Cecil Taylor "Momentum Space" (promo. hole punch through bar code)(a couple of light scuff marks that doesn't effect play)
     
    Paul Motian Trio "Trioism" JMT (promo. hole punch through bar code)

     

    $5

    Lee Morgan "The Procrastinator" Connoisseur (cut out notch in spine and a couple of light scuff marks that doesn't effect play)
     
    Hank Mobley "A Caddy for Daddy" (a couple of light scuff marks that doesn't effect play)
     
    Bennie Green "Soul Stirrin" Connoisseur (cut out notch in spine)
     
    Andrew Hill "Smokestack" Connoisseur
     
    Eric Dolphy "Illinois Concert" Sealed Sold
     
    Lou Donaldson "The Natural Soul" Sealed Van Gelder (cut out notch in spine)
     
    Tony Williams "The Story of Neptune" (cut out notch in spine)
     
    Steve Coleman "The Way of the Cipher" (drill hole in tray card)
     
    Steve Coleman and Five Elements "On the Edge of Tomorrow" JMT (drill hole in tray card)(a couple of light scuff marks that don't effect play)
     
    Steve Coleman and Five Elements "The Tao of Mad Phat" (Promo. Hole punch through bar code)
     
    Steve Coleman "Genesis & The Opening of the Way" (drill hole in tray card)
     
    Steve Coleman and Five Elements "Rhythm People" (drill hole in tray card)

    Nels Cline "Lovers" 2 CDs (Promo. Mark through bar code)

    The Nels Cline Singers "Macroscope"

    Allison Miller's Boom Tic Boom "Otis Was a Polar Bear" (a couple of light scuff marks that don't effect play)

    Trio M "The Guest House" 

    Uri Caine"Rio" Sealed

    Uri Caine Ensemble "The Othello Syndrome" Hold

    Nate Smith "Kinfolk"
     
    Kurt Rosenwinkel Standards Trio "Reflections"
     
    Darcy James Argue's Secret Society "Brooklyn Babylon" Sold
     
    Darcy James Argue's Secret Society "Infernal Machines" Sold
     
    Bill Frisell with Dave Holland and Elvin Jones
     
    Tim Berne's Bloodcount "Poisoned Minds" (Promo stamp on front cover and hole punch through bar code)
     
    Steven Bernstein "Diaspora Suite" Sealed
     
    Christian Scott "Christian Ajunde Adjuah" 2 CDs Sold
     
    Yosuke Yamashita "Kurdish Dance"

    Jackie McLean "Presenting" Ad Lib Fresh Sound CD Sealed Sold

    Duke Pearson "Honeybuns" Collectables Sealed

    Tim Berne "Insomnia" Clean Feed (small hole punch)

    Marty Ehrlich's Rites Quartet "Frog Leg Logic" Clean Feed (small hole punch)

    Harris Eisenstadt "Guewel" Clean Feed (small hole punch)

    Darius Jones "Le bebe de Brigitte" Clean Feed (small hole punch)

    Eric Revis "In Memory of Things Yet Seen" (Promo. Mark through bar code)(scuff marks that don't effect play)

    John Hollenbeck Large Ensemble "A Blessing" (Promo. Hole punch in bar code)

    Tony Williams Lifetime "Spectrum: The Anthology" 2 CDs (Scratch through bar code)(a couple of light scuff marks that don't effect play)

    Ralph Alessi "Baida"

    Ralph Alessi "Cognitive Dissonance" (Hole punch in bar code)

    Ralph Alessi & This Against That "Look"

    Ralph Alessi & This Against That "wiry Strong" (Hole punch)

    Drew Gress "7 Black Butterflies" (drill hole in tray card)

    Drew Gress "The Irrational Numbers" (a couple of light scuff marks that don't effect play)

    Drew Gress "The Sky Inside"

    Hans Glawischnig "Panorama" (Hole punch in bar code)

    Grant Green "Green Street" Van Gelder (cut out notch in spine)

    Anthony Williams "Spring" (cut out notch in spine)

    Freddie Redd Quartet "Music From The Connection"

    Joe Henderson "Our Thing" Van Gelder (cut out notch in spine)

    Joe Henderson "Inner Urge" Van Gelder (cut out notch in spine)

    Joe Henderson "Mode For Joe" Sealed

    Geri Allen "Eyes in the Back of Your Head" (promo sticker on CD)

    Thelonious Monk "Monk's Blues" (Hole punch in bar code)

    Tony Williams Lifetime "The Collection" (Hole punch in bar code)

    Lester Young with The Oscar Peterson Trio (Hole punch in bar code) (a couple of light scuff marks that don't effect play)

    Anthony Cox "Dark Metals" (hole punch in tray card)

    Michael Musilami Trio +3 "From Seeds"

    Guillermo Klein "Domador de Huellas" Music of "Cuchi" Leguizamon (Promo. Mark through bar code) Sold

    Aaron Goldberg and Guillermo Klein "Bienestan"

     

    $4

    Oliver Nelson "Blues in the Abstract Truth"
     
    Echoes of An Era (Rhino)

    VSOP "Live Under the Sky" (has a scuff mark that doesn't effect play)

    Miles Davis "Tutu" (sticker residue on cover)

    Blue Mitchell "Live" 

     

    $3
     

    Nancy Wilson/Cannonball Adderley 

    Darren Johnston's Gone to Chicago "The Big Lift" Promo (sticker on back)

     

    DVDs

    $10

    John Coltrane, Dexter Gordon, Dave Brubeck, Sarah Vaughan Bonus Disk Series Two Jazz Icons Sealed

    Sonny Rollins "Live in '65 & '68" Jazz Icons Sealed Sold

    Cannonball Adderley "Live in '63" Jazz Icons Sealed Sold

    Bill Evans "Live '64-'75" Jazz Icons Sealed

    Rahsaan Roland Kirk "Live in '63 & '67" Jazz Icons Sealed Sold 

    Nina Simone "Live in '65 & '68" Jazz Icons Sealed

    Lionel Hampton "Live in '58" Jazz Icons Sealed

    Dizzy Gillespie "Live in '58 & '70" Jazz Icons Sealed Sold

    Quincy Jones "Live in '60" Jazz Icons Sealed

    Buddy Rich "Live in '78" Jazz Icons Sealed

    Ella Fitzgerald "Live in '57 & '63" Jazz Icons Sealed

    Louis Armstrong "Live in '59" Jazz Icons Sealed

    Thelonious Monk "Live in '66" Jazz Icons Sealed Sold

    Count Basie "Live in '62" Jazz Icons Sealed

    Chet Baker "Live in '64 & '79" Jazz Icons Sealed

    "The World According to John Coltrane" Masters of American Music Sealed

    Thelonious Monk "American Composer" Masters of American Music (has one scratch)

    $7

    John Coltrane "Live in '60, '61 & '65" Jazz Icons Sold

    Wes Montgomery "Live in '65" Jazz Icons Sold

    Sarah Vaughan "Live in '58 & '64" Jazz Icons

    Charles Mingus "Live in '64" Jazz Icons

    Duke Ellington "Live in '58" Jazz Icons

    Dexter Gordon "Live in '63 & '64" Jazz Icons Sold

    Dave Brubeck "Live in '64 & '65" Jazz Icons Sold

    Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers "Live in '58" Jazz Icons Sold

    Oscar Peterson "Live in '63, '64 & '65" Jazz Icons

     

     

    My stuff

    The Cookers "The Call of the Wild and Peaceful Heart" $15

    David Weiss & Point of Departure "Wake Up Call" $10

    David Weiss Sextet "When Worlds Fail" $10

    David Weiss and Endangered Species: The Music of Wayne Shorter "Live at Dizzy's Club Coca Cola" $10

    David Weiss and Point of Departure "Snuck In" $7

    David Weiss and Point of Departure "Snuck Out" $7

    David Weiss and Point of Departure "Venture Inward" $7

    All three Point of Departure CDs for $15

    The New Jazz Composers Octet "Walkin' the Line" $10

    The New Jazz Composers Octet "The Turning Gate" $7

     

     

  21. CDs For Sale

    in Offering and Looking For...

    Posted

    The Cookers "Time and Time Again" $15

    David Weiss Sextet "When Worlds Fail" $10

    David Weiss and Point of Departure "Snuck Out" $7

    David Weiss and Point of Departure "Venture Inward" $7

    The New Jazz Composers Octet "Walkin' the Line" $10

    The New Jazz Composers Octet "The Turning Gate" $7

    Damn! I knew not to sit on the sidelines too long for those discs. :( Enjoy!

    I suspect David will have multiple copies of those titles available.

    Yes John, multiples coming out of my......

    So yes, Tom, I can hook you and any one else up with these..... PM coming your way.

    I will add more titles tomorrow and if you've paid already, those will ship on Monday.

    Thanks all......

  24. CDs For Sale

    in Offering and Looking For...

    Posted · Edited by david weiss

    House cleaning again and also helping an estate unload their CDs.....

    All are in excellent condition

    Postage is $2.50 for the first CD shipped in a nice mailer and .50 each additional CD.

    Shipping outside the US is actual postage costs.

    Will be adding many more in the coming days.

    $10

    Phineas Newborn "Stockholm Jam Session Volume 1"

    Phineas Newborn "Stockholm Jam Session Volume 2"

    $8

    Sonny Stitt "Endgame Brilliance" 32 Jazz (Constellation and Tune Up)

    J.R. Monterose Blue Note Connoisseur

    Wes Montgomery "Complete Live at Jorgies"

    Johnny Griffin with Strings and Brass "White Gardenia"

    Lee Morgan "The Rajah"

    Jay Jay Johnson Quintet "Live at the Cafe Bohemia 1957"

    Lou Donaldson "Lush Life" (RVG)

    Miles Davis "Miles: The New Miles Davis Quintet" (RVG)

    $7

    Ray Russell "Secret Asylum" (Reel Recordings)

    Jeff "Tain" Watts "Watts"

    Noah Preminger "Before the Rain" Promo (hole punch in bar code)

    Gary Bartz "Soprano Stories" (Sealed)
    The Quintet "Jazz at Massey Hall" SACD (sticker on jewel case)
    David Virelles "Continuum" (notch through spine)
    Vijay Iyer "Mutations" Promo (scratch through bar code)
    Jason Palmer "Here Today"
    Miles Davis "Masqualero"
    Miles Davis "No Blues"
    Henry Threadgill "Carry the Day" Sealed
    Henry Threadgill & Make a Move "Where's Your Cup"?
    $5

    Bill Stewart "Telepathy"

    The Max Roach 4 "Plays Charlie Parker" (sticker on jewel case)

    Ben Webster Meets Oscar Peterson Verve Master Edition

    Philly Joe Jones "Beat" / Philly Joe & Elvin Jones Collectables Jazz Classics

    Grant Green "I Want to Hold Your Hand"

    Louis Hayes "The Real Thing" (32 Jazz)

    Noah Preminger "Before the Rain" Promo (hole punch in bar code)

    Gerald Clayton "Life Forum"
    Thelonious Monk "The London Collection: Volume Three" (1201 Music)
    Lew Tabackin Trio "Tanuki's Night Out"
    Blue Mitchell "Smooth as Wind"
    Freddie Redd "Music From the Connection" (Iris Music Group) Looks like a CDR to me
    Randy Weston "The Storyteller"
    Gonzalo Rubalcaba "Faith
    Johnny Richards and his Orchestra "Softly...Wild....and Something Else" (Fresh Sound)
    Willie Jones III "TheNext Phase"
    $4

    Philly Joe Jones "Blues for Dracula"(slight tear on first page of booklet)

    Elvin Jones "Elvin!"

    Dewey Redman, Cecil Taylor and Elvin Jones "Momentum Space"

    Horace Silver "Song for My Father"

    Sonny Clark Trio (RVG)

    Ornette Coleman "New York is Now!" (the CD has a scuff mark that doesn't effect play of course)

    Coleman Hawkins "Today and Now"

    The Great Jazz Piano of Phineas Newborn Jr.

    Tadd Dameron "The Magic Touch"

    Tadd Dameron "Fontainbleau"

    Phineas Newborn Jr. "Solo Piano" Collectables

    Jimmy Heath "The Gap Sealer" (Jazz Beat) (includes most of "Love and Understanding" as bonus tracks)

    Les Spann "Gemini"

    Bobby Timmons "Easy Does It"

    Bobby Timmons "In Person"

    Milt Jackson Orchestra "Big Bags"

    Sean Jones "Gemini"

    Freddie Redd "The Connection" (Van Gelder)

    Mal Waldron "The Quest"

    Quincy Jones "Quintessence"

    Nat Adderley and the Big Sax Section "That's Right!"

    Wes Montgomery All-Stars "A Good Git Together"

    Wes Montgomery "The Incredible Jazz Guitar of"

    Sonny Stitt "Just the Way it Was" Live at the Left Bank (Hyena)

    Charles McPherson "McPherson's Mood"

    Johnny Griffin "The Big Soul-Band"

    Don Patterson "Boppin' and Burnin'"

    Kenny Dorham "Afro-Cuban"

    Sonny Rollins "Without a Song The 9/11 Concert"

    Charles Tolliver Big Band "With Love" (Promo notch in spine)

    Danny Grissett "Promise" Promo (sticker and cut corner on booklet)

    Blue Mitchell "A Sure Thing"

    Joe Henderson "Page One" (RVG)

    Sonny Rollins and the Contemporary Leaders

    The Cannonball Adderley Quintet "Paris 1960" (Pablo) Promo (hole punch in bar code)

    Cannonball Adderley "Bohemia After Dark"

    Thelonious Monk Quartet with John Coltrane "At Carnegie Hall"

    Joey DeFrancesco, Larry Coryell and Jimmy Cobb "Wonderful!, Wonderful! (the CD has a scuff mark that doesn't effect play)

    Darren Johnston's Gone to Chicago "The Big Lift" Promo (sticker on back)

    Nicholas Payton "Sonic Trance" Promo (line through bar code)

    Russell Gunn Ethnomusicology Volume 3

    Kellylee Evans "Nina" Sealed

    Bill Easly "Business Man's Bounce"

    Pat Metheny "Unity Band" Promo (line through bar code)

    Three For All "We Three" Promo (notch in spine)

    John Hicks "Crazy For You" Promo (hole punch in bar code)

    The Blue Note All-Stars "Blue Spirit" Promo (notch in spine)

    Sarah Wilson "Trapeze Project" Promo (hole punch in bar code)

    Alex Sipiagin "Steppin' Zone" Promo (sticker and cut corner on booklet)

    Bobby Sanabria Big Band "Live and in Clave" Sealed

    Etta Jones and Strings "So Warm"

    Oliver Nelson Orchestra "Afro/American Sketches"(has a couple of scuff marks that doesn't effect play)

    D.D. Jackson "Serenity Song" (has a couple of scuff marks that doesn't effect play)

    Kevin Hays "Andalucia" Promo (sticker on booklet)

    Jonny King "The Meltdown"

    Ed Wiley Jr "About the Soul"

    Charles Mingus "Mingus Ah Um" Sticker on jewel case Promo (hole punch through jewel case and traycard)

    Travis Sullivan Bjorkestra "Enjoy" Promo (notch in spine)

    Modern Jazz Quartet & Orchestra (Collectables )

    Shirley Scott "Blue Seven" (has a couple of scuff marks that doesn't effect play)

    Aaron Goldberg "Worlds"

    My stuff

    The Cookers "Time and Time Again" $15

    David Weiss Sextet "When Worlds Fail" $10

    David Weiss and Endangered Species: The Music of Wayne Shorter "Live at Dizzy's Club Coca Cola" $10

    David Weiss and Point of Departure "Snuck In" $7

    David Weiss and Point of Departure "Snuck Out" $7

    David Weiss and Point of Departure "Venture Inward" $7

    All three Point of Departure CDs for $15

    The New Jazz Composers Octet "Walkin' the Line" $10

    The New Jazz Composers Octet "The Turning Gate" $7

  25. Classic Blue Notes on SHM-CD

    in Re-issues

    Posted

    I just listened to Free For All. The bonus track, an alternate of Free for All is OK, certainly not close to the original by any means but the Freddie Hubbard solo is ridiculous and to me worth the price of admission.

    It's nice to see the Unity alternates finally see the light of day, I've always loved them.

    I also received Hank Mobley "Workout" (bonus tracks are two takes of "Three Coins in the Fountain") and Stanley Turrentine "Hustlin'" (bonus track is an alternate take of "Trouble (No. 2)") which I haven't gotten to yet.

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