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This is a tough one. I have almost all of Dexter's Prestige albums and Resurgence, so it is pretty hard to justify a box set, even with 17 unreleased tracks. Oh well. Maybe some time way down the line.
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Just wondering if anyone was selling this in the near future. I just missed a couple recently on Ebay (maybe I need to investigate Esnipe). Probably two more years and it will be out on Definitive but I'm trying to go to high road here. Thanks!
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Sent PM.
Eric
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They're at the Jazz Showcase next week!!!!!
I saw them there (Donaldson and Lonnie Smith not sure about other members) two years ago. A good show with Lou playing a couple of Parker songs, telling some stories, and a killer version of Alligator Boogaloo. Didn't care as much for his singing, but at least it was an amusing song. I don't think I can make it this year. Yeah, they probably will add a Beck tune to the repitoire. (Hey, my copy of Boogaloo for Beck is still for sale if you want to PM me about it.)
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Besides that, what is this statement implying? Music and it's distribution should not be a commercial enterprise? What is cultural heritage?
I guess I am having trouble understanding your point. Music is still very much a commercial enterprise but the exclusive rights to issue and license are limited to 50 years in the EU and 95 years in the US. There is no question that the lack of harmonization is going to screw with US music companies, but frankly I have trouble believing that a music company would sign and record an artist with the 95 year window but not with the 50 year window. Some people would say that is more than enough time. Most musical product has a shelf life of 3 or 4 years. Regarding the music from the 1950s, none of those business decisions were made with the 95 year window in mind, since that was applied retroactively by our friend Sonny Bono (a practice that I strongly object to).
I suppose it comes down to a philosophical belief about the nature of the public domain. Do you want a strong public domain, or do you value individual property rights more? I prefer more material to be in the public domain. I also come at this from an academic perspective where our basic belief is that information should be as free as possible. Professors write journal articles with no direct compensation (and sometimes even have to pay to have the article accepted for review even in the reputable journals). None of us really expect to make royalties off academic books. The copyleft movement is starting to pick up steam. And so forth. Being entrenched in this system, I am more attuned to the benefits that will accrue from allowing music into the public domain (more interesting hip hop samples and mash-ups if nothing else). But of course there are drawbacks as well, it just isn't what I focus on.
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I would have thought that the RVG remasters might be a way for BN to protect their copyright. Especially when tracks are added to the original release.
Book publishers do this all the time. They offer a "revised" edition, with some editing changes, and, in many such cases, are able to extend the copyright by claiming the the new edition has been substantially changed and theirefore deserves copyright protection, Good examples of these are the works of Hemingway (Scribner publishing) and Joyce (Random House).
I can hardly believe that Lundvall or Cuscuna are not going to do everything possible to protect Blue Note's back catalog.
The new material is probably copyrightable (if it hadn't been issued at all), and the arrangement of tracks, new liner notes, etc. should be copyrightable. But there seems to be nothing to stop a label from going and recreating the original album and issuing it. Many European labels have already started issuing BN or Columbia "master takes" from particular artists. I have even seen a Clifford Brown complete Vogue master takes that looks very tempting, given how difficult it is to find the original Vogue albums.
Anyway, Concord does have an arrangement with Emusic, and perhaps will extend/expand it. Maybe they will just try to sell their back catalogue electronically and not compete with the physical product put out by Definitive and Blue Moon.
Hmm, I just thought of an interesting point. Once the material goes PD, will the labels stop paying any royalties (those that are still obligated to do so)? Then BN, Verve, Impulse, whomever, could compete with with the European labels. But of course, the rights do last a lot longer in the US than in Europe.
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Got mail from Mosaic - the Jazztet set will be 7 CD ( ) and include the following:
This is cool news! I know about half of these albums, and love every bit of them! And it's cool they're including "Art", "Perception" (coupled on one of those discs were Keepnews decided to omit two titles), "Listen to A.F. And The Orchestra", as well as Golson's "Free" and "Take A Number From 1 To 10"! All very cool records!
As I have several of them on those rather cheap b/w Argo reissues (Jazztet Meets Lewis, Golson 1-10) on LP only, I will certainly get that set!
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I'm really excited, especially because I only have the Savoy material (Blues-ette) the Benny Golson with the Jazztet album on Savoy. The only overlap is that Art Farmer release (Out of the Past?) where OK knocked off a couple of songs from two LPs. By the way, who has listened to Blues-ette II, where all surviving musicians sort of recreate the feel of the original Blues-ette? This was done during Savoy's relaunch. I actually think it is pretty good. Better than some of the reviews I have read anyway.
So, I went ahead and pre-ordered today (they said it would probably be another couple of weeks before the Jazztet can be ordered directly on the website). I also ordered the Tal Farlow. I don't know if I can stand it though. To save on shipping, the two boxes are going to be combined, and now I have to wait ... Oh well, plenty of other things to catch up (sleep maybe?).
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The Jazztimes review just came out, and it was very positive. Basically, the reviewer liked all the tracks, except the one with Elton John. I won't run out and get this, but I'll probably pick it up at some point.
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Sonny Criss:
Mr. Blues Pour flirter
A great album. One of my favorites from the Jazz in Paris box.
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They are probably pretty good live. On second listen I do not like this as much as their first album; too many tracks are kind of aimless, including the first one. But Misty Hymen is pretty good. A sample of this song is on the Cuneiform website.
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I've seen him three times, twice in Newark and more recently in Manhattan as part of a J & R Music Festival (3 years ago?). The audience was not into him at the J & R event. I suspect that may be the same for you if they are all going for Jamal. His voice was worse at the J & R gig, but it also was an outdoor venue. His phrasing is unique and interesting, though it teeters on the edge of being too mannered. But he'll probably do some signature songs, like Heaven Must be Missing an Angel and All of Me, which he generally does very well. I enjoyed seeing him perform, but I wouldn't rush out and buy all his records. One would probably be enough.
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I, Claudia came out earlier this year on Cuneiform. I have the original album from the Claudia Quintet, though I don't play it that frequently. Still, I picked this up when I found it used. Some is compelling (especially the song Misty Hymen) and some wanders a bit. I'm not sure if the liner notes from John Hollenbeck fell out, or were not included. His liner notes, which can be found through the Cuneiform website) are quite amusing (on both CDs). On the first CD he gives the story behind the group's name.
Anyway, just wondering if people had any CDs by this group, or had heard them live. It is certainly an interesting line up -- vibes, reeds, bass, drums and accordian.
Now if I could find a group that had accordian, bassoon and/or oboe, and theremin, that would be the bomb.
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No, this is the first time I have signed up for a jazz bulletin board.
I also almost never go to a movie in the theatres. Chicago at least has some matinees (unlike Manhattan theatres) but I still don't usually find it worthwhile to go.
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Where can you buy these Vogue in Paris (naturally at the best price) ?
Interested in the Raney's and Wilen.
Thanks
search everywhere. in spite of these reissues not being very old, it's darn hard to find the ones you want (and at a decent price).
I'm quite upset that I didn't get more of these Vogues (the US versions) when I saw them remaindered at the Tower Outlet store in NYC. Maybe if I had been a board member back then I would have realized their worth.
Anyway, www.djangos.com has a few in stock. Some also seem to show up on half.com (though I think this site is shutting down and it will be all Ebay soon, which I think is a mistake). -
I've seen BN PD recordings at Tower in the USA!! Hell, the Cuban embargo has little effect on cigar smokers in the USA.
Right, Amazon and Tower online site have all the Blue Moon, Definitive, JSP titles you could want. I walked into the local Tower the other day, and they had all the Proper Boxes lined up in a row!
But it gets worse (or better if you are looking for cheap music), there are now a couple of Russian websites that sell mp3s. Apparently (and I don't really know the law here), Russia does not recognize any copyrights prior to around 1973, and in general they have sweetheart deals for the material published after that (I guess the music labels were trying to get even 10 cents on the dollar in Russia). So now these companies are selling what are perfectly legal MP3s in Russia, but are quite illegal in other parts of the world. Needlesstosay, it is no sweat to buy these MP3s from anywhere in the world. The prices are ridiculously low, generally 50 cents to $1 for an entire album. (How do I know this? Hmm. I was just doing research on the topic, just like Pete T.
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No, I wasn't able to go last year. I tend to get to the Green Mill to see Osby every second year. The same thing with Von Freeman and Ed Petersen around the winter holidays. I couldn't go last year, but maybe this year.
I mean the drummer wasn't terrible backing up the band, but I thought his solo was weak. He just struck me as someone who indulged in jazz cliches (here what a jazz drummer ought to look like) more than was healthy.
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Well, they were doing some shooting in the Chicago Loop today. They had many streets completely blocked off. I hope that Da Mare got sufficient ducats for that, since it was a huge inconvenience (and the stars weren't even in town). I did end up going to the office at the very end of the day and saw them taking down some of the props. They had added a phone booth on the corner (there are literally no outdoor phones let alone standing phone booths in the Chicago downtown). And a lot of old rusty bikes. The most clever thing was a bus stop with an ad for the Gotham Museum of Fine Arts, advertising a new exhibit on cubism. I'm assuming that in the final film this will flash by so fast you could only see it by going frame by frame in the DVD. I can't imagine I will watch the film, but you never know. Maybe Halle Berry will drop by in her catsuit ...
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Great news regarding the Marx Brothers!
The box will include THE COCOANUTS (1929), ANIMAL CRACKERS (1930), MONKEY BUSINESS (1931), HORSEFEATHERS (1932), DUCK SOUP (1933), and an extra disc of bonus material.
My November 9th suddenly got much brighter...
Oh, that is good news. I think they were in print in the US for a short while, then were pulled. I actually paid a slight premium for these movies (minus Cocoanuts) from some guy who had stockpiled them. I hope there aren't too many extras on them. Now if the Harold Lloyd estate would finally start releasing his films (they are starting to show up on AMC which might be a good sign).
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I saw 1.5 sets on Friday. It was definitely enjoyable, though Osby wasn't quite as explosive as the last time I saw him. His new piano player is Megumi Yonezawa, who is good, but no Jason Moran. The bassist was good. I wasn't that impressed by the drummer, mostly because his exagerrated jazz posture, slouching over the drums, swaying, grimacing, etc. Honestly, it looked like he was a hunchback with constipation. That shouldn't matter but it did, and I did my best not to look at him. I also thought his drum solo on Aligator Boogaloo was wack. It really did kind of ruin an otherwise good performance.
Let's see, in the second set, they also played East St. Louis Toodle-O, which Osby has been playing pretty regularly. I wasn't that familiar with the material in the first set.
Many of you probably know this, but Osby's website gregosby.com has a number of MP3s of complete shows. What I didn't realize was that he has added an entire second page of more recent shows, including two shows from 2004. I think that is pretty cool. They do take forever to download though.
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I think you would like Bird of a Feather. I'll have to listen to it again to give any real feedback, but I thought it was good on the first listen.
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Is anyone going to see Greg Osby at the Green Mill tonight? I am planning on going. I usually stick for the first two sets, though I might only make the first one tonight (it has been a long week). I generally sit at the bar and will be wearing jeans and a gray shirt.
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I forgot James Wilcox. I think his earlier works are better - Modern Baptists and Polite Sex. I really hated his last work Plain and Normal.
Michael Malone, especially Handling Sin and Foolscap.
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My copy finally showed up (won on eBay an eon ago). I like it, especially the title track and Killer Joe. It's a strong opening to the CD. Golson has penned many of the songs, but as mentioned above there are good versions of In Your Own Sweet Way and a few other standards. I found the liner notes interesting too.
I'm wondering if there are many other albums inspired by airports. I can think of Sinatra's Come Fly With Me and the much more recent Vijay Iyer's In What Language (very interesting but not exactly jazz). Any others come to mind?
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Another shout out for The Thought Gang. Really amusing stuff. I am, however, wondering if he cribbed anything from the Depardieu movies of the 1970s.
Another author to check out is Eric Kraft, who wrote about a fictional New England seaside community. His first 10 novellas were collected into Little Follies. I liked the next two full novels, but it kind of trailed off after that.
Don't forget Sonny rollins.
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For the most recent albums, I think Global Warming has a few really nice pieces on it, but it is uneven. This is What I Do is a very good album, probably his best of the last 10 years.