Saint Vitus Posted May 18, 2003 Report Posted May 18, 2003 How many here have seen, or are close with someone who've seen, Down With Love--the Renee Zellwegger movie that's supposed to attract those who do not want to see Matrix Reloaded--this week? Quote
Jazzmoose Posted May 18, 2003 Report Posted May 18, 2003 Well...my wife and I are considering it. Although for me it's kind of like a car wreck; I don't want to look, but... Quote
Guest Mnytime Posted May 18, 2003 Report Posted May 18, 2003 (edited) It really depends on the quality of what they are counterprograming with. From what I have heard of this particular movie, it's a cross between Tony Curtis/Natlie Wood's Sex & The Single Girl and Doris Day/Rock Hudson's films. Edited May 18, 2003 by Mnytime Quote
Jazzmoose Posted May 18, 2003 Report Posted May 18, 2003 From what I have heard of this particular movie, it's a cross between Tony Curtis/Natlie Wood's Sex & The Single Girl and Doris Day/Rock Hudson's films. Yeah, everytime I see the ad, my brain screams "PILLOW TALK! RUN!!!!" Quote
Saint Vitus Posted May 18, 2003 Author Report Posted May 18, 2003 The box office results are in and this counterprogramming did not work very well, with $7.8 million estimated for the weekend. The "real" counterpramming to Matrix Reloaded, it turned out, was Eddie Murphy's family affair Daddy Day Care. Quote
Jazzmoose Posted May 19, 2003 Report Posted May 19, 2003 The "real" counterpramming to Matrix Reloaded, it turned out, was Eddie Murphy's family affair Daddy Day Care. Well, neither my wife or I will sink that low. Quote
Guest Mnytime Posted May 19, 2003 Report Posted May 19, 2003 (edited) Anyone interested in some counterprogramming too Hitler (What No One Knows By Now This Guy Wasn't a Nice Guy?) can watch the newly restored Metropolis. Unless you where there when it was first screened you have never seen the full version. It has been gutted to the version all of us who still love it in spit of the gutting by more than an hour of footage. You can see what they are calling the definitive version on TCM tonight at 9pm PST, 12am EST. They showed this earlier in the month and it almost a different film but still a masterpiece. It's still missing I believe 20 minutes even though they combed the planet to find what they could for the restoration. The rest has been destroyed. You can read about it on these sites: http://turnerclassicmovies.com/ThisMonth/A...4;25817,00.html http://www.kino.com/metropolis/index.html Edited May 19, 2003 by Mnytime Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted May 19, 2003 Report Posted May 19, 2003 I saw the newly restored Metropolis on the big screen (here in Kansas City) back in January on this year. I can't say enough good things about it. I had seen Metropolis before, a couple times actually, but only in earlier "chopped up" versions, that clocked in with nearly 1/3rd of the original footage missing or cut-out. I always loved Metropolis, but seeing this newly restored print cleared up lingering questions about the plot-line that I never understood before (and with good reason, if that much of the movie was missing). Run, don't walk, to TCM - or rent it. "Must see" viewing, IMHO... Quote
Guest Mnytime Posted May 19, 2003 Report Posted May 19, 2003 If you can't watch it on TCM it's out on DVD. Quote
SEK Posted May 19, 2003 Report Posted May 19, 2003 Though I thought that I had seen "Metropolis" a few times before, seeing the restored version last night on TCM was like watching that cinema classic anew. Quote
Guest Mnytime Posted May 20, 2003 Report Posted May 20, 2003 I know what you mean. I must have seen the cut version about 50 times but the restored film is like a completly different film. What's amazing is how even in its truncated version and restored version it's still a classic. Now the biggest gutting of a film is for Erich von Stroheim's Greed. The original full cut was 9-10 hours, which was shown only once to raves by those who saw it. It was cut down to 2hrs by the studio, and still considered a classic and one of the best silent films made. It was recently restored to 4hrs and once again it changed the film but still a classic. Now in terms of directors except for his first film Citizen Kane every film Orsen Wells directed has been butchered by the studio. If anyone hasn't seen the recent restoration of the classic Touch of Evil you should do yourself a favor and see it. TCM shows Greed once a year these days since the restoration and they just premired the restored version of Touch of Evil last month. About the only complaint I have for TCM is I wish they showed more silent films and foreign films than the once a week for each. Otherwise it's the best channel on TV today. IMHO Quote
chris olivarez Posted May 20, 2003 Report Posted May 20, 2003 If I was going to release a movie like the Zellwegger/Macgregor movie the same week as something like "the Matrix" sequel I would pray that it had big strong legs in order to withstand the initial blitz of all those special effects. Quote
SEK Posted May 22, 2003 Report Posted May 22, 2003 About the only complaint I have for TCM is I wish they showed more silent films and foreign films than the once a week for each. Otherwise it's the best channel on TV today. IMHO TCM has become my favorite TV station too. Their restored silent films have been a revelation to me. I also often like the well-chosen music that accompanies them; it can really makes it easier to follow what's transpiring/developing in the movie. I've enjoyed one of this month's features: pre-Hayes Code films. Censorship has sure been an effective tool for limiting the American social and political imagination. Quote
Guest Mnytime Posted May 22, 2003 Report Posted May 22, 2003 (edited) About the only complaint I have for TCM is I wish they showed more silent films and foreign films than the once a week for each. Otherwise it's the best channel on TV today. IMHO TCM has become my favorite TV station too. Their restored silent films have been a revelation to me. I also often like the well-chosen music that accompanies them; it can really makes it easier to follow what's transpiring/developing in the movie. I've enjoyed one of this month's features: pre-Hayes Code films. Censorship has sure been an effective tool for limiting the American social and political imagination. Yea the Hays Commission really put a crimp into Hollywood. This led to those in Hollywood adjusting with all kinds of hidden dialogue and symbols that those hip enough caught onto, which the Hays office didn't. During the Pre-Code you would see naked or half-naked women all the way back to the silent age. As well as almost every taboo subject you can think of. An interesting documentary to see on how Homosexuality for example was symbolized in many films right under the Hays Commssions nose is The Celluloid Closet. Edited May 22, 2003 by Mnytime Quote
Guest Mnytime Posted May 22, 2003 Report Posted May 22, 2003 TCM is showing Touch of Evil this Sunday as part of "The Essentials" series. Though I am not sure if it is the original released version of the restored version, which was based on I think 50 pages worth of notes from Wells. When he saw what the Studio did with his film he sat down and wrote detailed notes on how he thought should be fixed. Of course the studio avoided it. From the very beginning of the restored version there is a major differene. There is no longer any opening credits that get in the way of the opening one take shot. This scene is considered a classic and copied by many over the years since including Robert Altman in The Player. Quote
Guest Mnytime Posted May 24, 2003 Report Posted May 24, 2003 (edited) Anyone interested, TCM is showing the Classic neo-realism film Paisan by Roberto Rossellini who is considered the father of neo-realism in film. One of the writers for this classic is another legend of film Fellini. It is showing 2am EST, 11pm PST You can read about the film on TCM's site http://www.turnerclassicmovies.com/ThisMon...4;25866,00.html Next Friday for TCMs import of the week they are showing Diabolique at the same time as tonights showing of Paisan. http://www.turnerclassicmovies.com/ThisMon...24;1214,00.html Edited May 24, 2003 by Mnytime Quote
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