BST 84234?

[Shawn]

In the discography of the Turrentine Mosaic set it mentions the following under the sessions for Mr. Natural & In Memory Of...

"These titles were first scheduled on BST 84234,which were never released. "

Fried Pies

In Memory Of

Make Someone Happy

Shirley

Tacos

Was this just an empty catalog number or did it have a title, etc?

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

I suspect an empty number. Those cuts were from two sessions - eventually released as "In memory of" and "Mr Natural".

The same thing seems to have happened with Hank Mobley's two sessions that were eventually released as "A slice of the top" and "Straight no filter". Originally, "A slice of the top", "Hank's other bag" and "There's a lull in my life" were scheduled to be issued on 4241 with the three tracks done at the "Straight no filter" session.

The Andrew Hill "One for one" session (4233) was also not issued at the time and eventually appeared under Sam Rivers' name as "Involution". Jackie McLean's "Jacknife" (4223) and "High frequency" (4236) also failed to appear and were eventually issued on a twofer in the late seventies.

These numbers all were around the time of the sale to Liberty. Blue Notes always took a long time between recording and issue (sometimes a very long time). The very interesting recent thread on track order mentions somewhere that Alfred Lion put a lot of thought into running order. And so, evidently, does Chuck Nessa. In a sense, I think you often can't title an album until you've got the running order sorted. But you put it in the schedule and give it a number, since you have to be a bit organised, even if you're making jazz records

And some of the work in progress was dumped by Liberty.

MG

[Shawn]

I figured that was the case. I find it very interesting to see the songs that were scheduled to be on these releases. I assume that Lion picked the tracks(?). Think I'll play around with those Straight No Filter/Slice Of The Top tracks this morning....

Thanks for the info MG!

[mjzee]

As per the Cuscuna/Ruppli BN Discography (2001), in the Album Numerical Listings section, BLP 4234 is listed as "nr" (not released), with a reference to pages 167 and 171. Page 167 lists "In Memory Of," and the note at the bottom of the session states "Takes 2 (Fried Pies), 5 (In Memory Of) & 30 (Make Someone Happy) were first scheduled on BN BLP4234/BST84234, which were never released." Page 171 lists "Mr. Natural," and a similar note states "Takes 1 (Shirley) and 14 (Tacos) were first scheduled on BN BLP4234/BST84234, which were never released."