on bended knees

[alocispepraluger102]

to me, the recent major college sports scandals involving young men, or little boys, call for some clear thinking.

this is a greater problem than one would first think.

from my observations, it is endemic to this culture. it is widespread and built-in.

we are a puritanical culture, religiously and morally, with a taboo on sex.

a lot of this comes from the catholics, but more comes from the puritans.

simultaneously, this culture, since the 1920s has been sold using basic freudian psychology, promulgated by a nephew of sigmund freud's, who picked up on freud's psychology early on and sold it to a bunch of marketers.

we've been sold goods with sex attached to the goods, at the same time the sex is taboo, (any kind) has been for a very long time.

this creates a tremendous frustration in this society.

we need to rethink the situation entirely rather than throw a bunch of law books at (a few defendants), not the real problem.

a few defendants aren't the problem; that's a reaction.

this society has far too much reaction and not enough response to too many problems.

we don't have enough people thinking through the problems, this one in particular.

this problem will never be ameliorated, the problem of adult power over kids.

there will always be adults taking advantage of children.

did you hear about the 9 year old boy convicted of child molestation?

he is required to have his picture posted in his juristiction for the rest of his life anywhere he moves.

people will be notified that he is a child molestor.

at age 8 he was caught playing with a 5 year old girl.

the law went way beyond its limits here and ruined a kids life.

he didn't have the power and sway of a bigtime athletic coach or powerful adult figure.

marvin gaye

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1tN0ZKnRgs

Edited November 28, 2011 by alocispepraluger102

[JETman]

Lots of assumptions and leaps of faith in yer thinking there. And....you're not saying anything that hasn't been said a zillion times over in WAY more complex terms. Your placement of blame on Catholics, or even Puritans, is HIGHLY offensive. I've been talking about the BIGGER problem (in relation to the PSU scandal) all along, but not in the terms you use.

What's your solution??? As the saying goes, if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

[Hardbopjazz]

Nice photos

[papsrus]

Well, as long as we're discussing taboos, I've thought for some time that one major source of anger -- perhaps the singular source of anger -- among young men in some Islamic societies is the extreme sexual repression they live under.

It's a wonder the women in these societies aren't all raving lunatics, given that the repression they suffer is much more extreme.

So, say for instance two young people in Afghanistan fall in love, but are told that they can't pursue their relationship because she has been promised to some old codger in the next village and he has to marry and provide for some girl half his age who he has never met. If the two young lovers so much as look at one another, she'll be killed and maybe he'll have some body parts lopped off for shaming the family.

In the face of this madness, is it any wonder some of them run screaming with a lit stick of dynamite toward the prospect of 72 virgins awaiting them in the afterlife?

As for the molesting of young boys by old men lurking around the showers, kids need to be taught that these are the worst kind of people.

[papsrus]

Yeah, as always, cool photos ...

[alocispepraluger102]

Lots of assumptions and leaps of faith in yer thinking there. And....you're not saying anything that hasn't been said a zillion times over in WAY more complex terms. Your placement of blame on Catholics, or even Puritans, is HIGHLY offensive. I've been talking about the BIGGER problem (in relation to the PSU scandal) all along, but not in the terms you use.

What's your solution??? As the saying goes, if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

the puritans and catholics aren't necessarily to blame. that lifestyle has a possibility of working very well, and may yet again,

but the clash of marketed sex with those concepts blows brains up.

Edited November 28, 2011 by alocispepraluger102

[JSngry]

Well, as long as we're discussing taboos, I've thought for some time that one major source of anger -- perhaps the singular source of anger -- among young men in some Islamic societies is the extreme sexual repression they live under.

It's a wonder the women in these societies aren't all raving lunatics, given that the repression they suffer is much more extreme.

So, say for instance two young people in Afghanistan fall in love, but are told that they can't pursue their relationship because she has been promised to some old codger in the next village and he has to marry and provide for some girl half his age who he has never met. If the two young lovers so much as look at one another, she'll be killed and maybe he'll have some body parts lopped off for shaming the family.

True, but consider the non-fundamentalist Islamic traditions of modesty being applied in a non-repressive way...can you imagine anything sexier, and not in a cheap way, than this?

Public modesty in the service of focusing and enhancing one's personal (i.e. - private) sensuality instead of repressing it is a fine thing, and, unfortunately, something that has been all but either discarded or else distorted beyond any healthy use.

I do think that our collective discarding of modesty is just as rooted in fear was our embracing of the stifling of sensuality. Both are ways to avoid having to confront the deepest, most intimate aspect of our being. On the one hand, we flaunt it and pass it around, on the other hand, we cover it up and tell ourselves that it's not there.

Either way cheapens the fullness of life.

[alocispepraluger102]

Well, as long as we're discussing taboos, I've thought for some time that one major source of anger -- perhaps the singular source of anger -- among young men in some Islamic societies is the extreme sexual repression they live under.

It's a wonder the women in these societies aren't all raving lunatics, given that the repression they suffer is much more extreme.

So, say for instance two young people in Afghanistan fall in love, but are told that they can't pursue their relationship because she has been promised to some old codger in the next village and he has to marry and provide for some girl half his age who he has never met. If the two young lovers so much as look at one another, she'll be killed and maybe he'll have some body parts lopped off for shaming the family.

In the face of this madness, is it any wonder some of them run screaming with a lit stick of dynamite toward the prospect of 72 virgins awaiting them in the afterlife?

As for the molesting of young boys by old men lurking around the showers, kids need to be taught that these are the worst kind of people.

how humans can navigate through that way of living is a mystery to me; one day, we may discuss how the greek gladiators had their 'boys', as well, particularly before battle.