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Recorded @ Rudolfinum Praha on June 18th June 1959 .... one of the last great recordings by Karel Šejna, who - after the departure of Vaclav Kubelik  - was co-leading the CPO with Václav Neumann .... when the orchestra’s players were asked to elect Kubelik’s successor, the vast majority of votes was given to Karel Šejna, but the Czech regime  installed Karel Ančerl .... going into the 1960`s  Šejna remained as deputy but his recording activity decreased sharply .... 

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Disc 1 - Tragic Overture; Symphony No. 1

 

11 hours ago, soulpope said:

Recorded @ Rudolfinum Praha on June 18th June 1959 .... one of the last great recordings by Karel Šejna, who - after the departure of Vaclav Kubelik  - was co-leading the CPO with Václav Neumann .... when the orchestra’s players were asked to elect Kubelik’s successor, the vast majority of votes was given to Karel Šejna, but the Czech regime  installed Karel Ančerl .... going into the 1960`s  Šejna remained as deputy but his recording activity decreased sharply .... 

Do we have any insight into why the decision-makers preferred Ančerl?  Was it for extra-musical reasons?  Or was it a musical thing?

Just curious. 

 

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4 hours ago, HutchFan said:

Do we have any insight into why the decision-makers preferred Ančerl?  Was it for extra-musical reasons?  Or was it a musical thing?

Just curious. 

It is said that more than 80% of the CPO members voted for Sejna .... but the Czech Communistic regime aimed to spread discord within the orchestra and installed Ancerl .... it's a sort of destiny, that Ancerl + CPO managed a fruitful co-operation nevertheless .... 

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Recorded @ Praha on June 8th 28 & August 31 and October 26th, 1972 .... at said year Václav Neumann was heading the CPO again, seemingly being "politically inconspicuous" enough at his tough times Czechoslovakia .... puting these aspects aside these are outstanding perfromaces ....

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2 hours ago, soulpope said:

It is said that more than 80% of the CPO members voted for Sejna .... but the Czech Communistic regime aimed to spread discord within the orchestra and installed Ancerl .... it's a sort of destiny, that Ancerl + CPO managed a fruitful co-operation nevertheless .... 

Well, Ancerl could not have been a purely political communist party appointee, right? He defected to Canada after 1968 Prague spring after all... Coincidentally, I just listened to Ancerl / CPO Shostakovich Symphony 10 yesterday - the energy and precision (and speed!) are just scary. Is this the greatest recorded version of this work or what?! And I don't even like Shostakovich...    

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48 minutes ago, Д.Д. said:

Well, Ancerl could not have been a purely political communist party appointee, right? He defected to Canada after 1968 Prague spring after all... Coincidentally, I just listened to Ancerl / CPO Shostakovich Symphony 10 yesterday - the energy and precision (and speed!) are just scary. Is this the greatest recorded version of this work or what?! And I don't even like Shostakovich...    

As mentioned the Czech Communistic regime aimed to spread discord within society, as distrust and envy makes people better controllable for absolustic systems .... and just to mention : a lot of Communists defected in 1968 - but those were people, who supported/lived with the bit loose(r) form of Communism from the mid60`s onwards (the time of Dubcek/Novotny) until the end of the "Prague Spring" but didn`t want to stay under hardcore communistic opression .... Was Ancerl a communist/sympathizer ? Well we (or at least I) don`t know for sure ....

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Another wonderful guitarist:

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Duets with the Spanish Guitar, Album 2 / Laurindo Almeida, Sally Terri, and others (Angel)
Originally released as Conversations with the Guitar (Capitol, 1960) 

Sally Terri sings on half of the album's 12 cuts.  Her voice is so ravishing that I wish she appeared on every track.

 

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9 hours ago, soulpope said:

It is said that more than 80% of the CPO members voted for Sejna .... but the Czech Communistic regime aimed to spread discord within the orchestra and installed Ancerl .... it's a sort of destiny, that Ancerl + CPO managed a fruitful co-operation nevertheless .... 

For what it's worth, Ancerl's Wikipedia bio states the following:

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Later he conducted for Prague Radio Symphony Orchestra until he was appointed artistic director of the Czech Philharmonic on the recommendation of David Oistrakh in 1950.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karel_Ančerl

There doesn't appear to be any specific source cited for that statement, but perhaps you can provide some context?  It DOES appear that throughout his life, Oistrakh always stayed in the good graces of the Soviet regime, again for what it's worth.

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2 hours ago, Ron S said:

For what it's worth, Ancerl's Wikipedia bio states the following:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karel_Ančerl

There doesn't appear to be any specific source cited for that statement, but perhaps you can provide some context?  It DOES appear that throughout his life, Oistrakh always stayed in the good graces of the Soviet regime, again for what it's worth.

The 1950's were likely the bleakest years in Czechoslovakia's history .... Stalin urged Communistic parties in Eastern Europe to execute full liquidation of democratic principles .... political trials and judicial murder were the order of the day .... these were dangerous times for individuals and Oistrakh was no exception .... never heard about him championing for Ancerl, but who knows .... 

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Listening to this again:

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Aaron Copland: Music for Theatre; Music for Movies; Quiet City; Clarinet Concerto* / Dennis Russell Davies, Orchestra of St. Luke's, William Blount (cl)*

Davies is a persuasive conductor of Copland's music, imo. 

 

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4 hours ago, Ron S said:

It DOES appear that throughout his life, Oistrakh always stayed in the good graces of the Soviet regime, again for what it's worth.

Yes, this is true. Unlike his friends, Mstislav Rostropovich and Galina Vishnevskaya, David Oistrakh was always a "dutiful citizen" of the USSR. I'm not sure whether Oistrakh was a true believer or just appreciated the perks of being "politically reliable" (or, perhaps most likely, some combination of both). 

One certainty: Regardless of his political calculations, Oistrakh was undeniably a magnificent musician. And the same could be said of Ancerl.

 

All this discussion is making me think of David Remnick's book Lenin's Tomb and the film "The Lives of Others."  Living in that sort of totalitarian state was . . . incredibly complicated. And nearly unimaginable for someone who hasn't lived through it (like me).

 

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