I saw both those guys a very long time ago. Joe Temperley was in the first jazz band I saw - in 1957 at the age of 17 - led by the grand old man of British jazz, Humphrey Lyttelton. Lyttelton had rebelled against the current British fashion for trad/dixieland and had added a three-man sax section with Tony Coe on alto, Jimmy Skidmore on tenor and Temperley on baritone. Two years later, not long after the recording of The Atomic Mr Basie, I sat on the front row of the Free Trade Hall, Manchester right in front of the Basie sax section of Marshall Royal, Frank Wess, Lockjaw Davis(?), Frank Foster and Charlie Fowlkes. Charlie was a heavily built guy who looked like he was bursting out of his pants! The music was fantastic!