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Well, I'm 66, and since maybe 2001, the music I choose to go out and listen to (usually at least once a week, sometimes much more than that) is mostly the stuff that the younger Chicago-area musicians are playing -- often avant-gardish to some degree I'd say, but typically not in ways that would leave many here scratching their heads. I know, why haven't I been writing/reporting here all the time about what I've been hearing? I have done that some times, but I think I don't more often because most of the people I'd be writing about are people who also are to some degree friends (and not only friends but also, because of the gap in age, almost sons and daughters), and I don't want to be writing about my friends in public anymore, for a whole lot of reasons -- some of which I understand, some of which I don't. Maybe I'll get past that, though, whatever "that" is. Larry, your thoughts on this new music would be very much welcome. If you would write only that Group A is really worth hearing, that would lead me to check them out. If you do not want to write about details or specifics about your friends, just your mention of their names is enough recommendation for me.

Which four more pages than the Best of 2008 Jazz list thread. While the op's writing style is very awkward it does seem strange that on a Jazz Discussion Forum their aren't a lot of people that support new Jazz artists. Seems to be more bashing of anybody that gets any type of positive press/ promotion than support. I know that isn't entirely true but it seems that way here sometimes. And four more pages than the thread about organissimo's videos on YouTube... you know, the band that actually owns this board. I have been frustrated by the lack of discussion of new artists on this board for years. What I have found is that younger people are generally more open to cross-pollination of musical ideas than older jazz fans, which is ironic considering jazz is supposed to be "free" and "expressive" and all that. Before anyone gets defensive, I'm not singling out anyone here. Just a general observation from being in the trenches, so to speak. I agree with what you are saying. I am surprised that we have many pages of discussion about old Beatles albums, but virtually no discussion about jazz albums which have been released this year, or about new jazz artists or styles. I posted two album covers. They are both several years old now. "Drab Zeen" is a release by a saxophonist from Lebanon, and is a mixture of jazz, music from the Middle East, and light touches of hip hop and electronica. "Inner Space/Outer Space" features a jazz combo playing along with intricate electronic sounds, which often sound so much like real instruments that I strain to tell the difference. To my older ears, these albums are fresh, have newer approaches, and are enjoyable and full of substance. I would like to get the impressions of other members of the board about these albums. If I found them, they must not be very difficult to find, because I am hardly on the cutting edge of anything going on in music today.

PM sent on Gil Evans set.

Those are really good points, Jim. When I wanted to buy a mid size sedan auto a few years ago, there were no real good choices from the Big 3, in terms of quality and price. It really came down to whether I wanted a Toyota or a Honda. That has to change, as the SUV era must be coming to an end.

MG, This is one reason why I missed you when you were off the board. You are better than any published book on this stuff.

I think that Space Equator may have written his first post in a writing style which is somewhat different from the usual style of this board, but that it is valuable to discuss any new approaches in contemporary jazz. Just my opinion.

Thanks for the recommendation. That is one that I did not know about.

Agreed, and it was listed in my Stupendous Sale without any takers. MG, If Dan still has it available, I would jump on it! I think that you would really like it.

Please explain.

Space Equator, Have you heard these two albums, and what do you think of them if you have:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Q-Tip (the thread starter, http://www.myspace.com/spaceequatorhome - minimalistic layout!) http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...iendid=72971308 How many people have their music on myspace? OMG, must be like, you know, something like 4.000.000.000? LOL. Awesome! youtubemyspaceyoutubemyspaceyoutubemyspaceyoutubemyspaceyoutubemyspace youtubemyspaceyoutubemyspaceyoutubemyspaceyoutubemyspaceyoutubemyspace youtubemyspaceyoutubemyspaceyoutubemyspaceyoutubemyspaceyoutubemyspace youtubemyspaceyoutubemyspace OMG! YouTube is ruining salvia for everybody else! youtubemyspaceyoutubemyspaceyoutubemyspace youtubemyspaceyoutubemyspaceyoutubemyspaceyoutubemyspaceyoutubemyspace youtubemyspaceyoutubemyspaceyoutubemyspaceyoutubemyspaceyoutubemyspace facebookfacebookfacebookfacebookfacebookmyspacefuckitthanksfortheadd I would still like to get Space Equator's words on these bands, though. If we all just went to YouTube and My Space for all information about music, there would be no need for this board.

One of the stranger album covers of all time. Especially because the title of the album is "Trout Mask Replica", but the cover depicts a Trout MASK, not a Trout Mask Replica.

Space Equator, I have heard Tortoise, Chicago Underground Trio, Radiohead, the Heartcore album, and Mehldau playing "Paranoid Android." I have found them all appealing, some more than others. I have not heard the rest of the musicians you have mentioned. Would you be so good as to briefly describe the music of Icy Demons, Q-Tip, Daedalus, Space Equator, Jega Jazzist. and Sequins and Skeletons? I would really like to know about them.