soulpope

thnx for your feedback - my interest in jazz (and classical music) started with vinyl and at that time (during the seventies) purchasing a japanese pressing was a 99% probability that 1) superior vinyl was used 2) very good transfer 3) original coverart etc aka altogether you were buying a quality product....today`s situation is rather annoying (master used/individual remastering forcing a certain "sound"/influence of the pressing plant used.....) and I`m therefore very picky regarding (new) purchases....so all the discussions here are informative and helpfull, but at the end of the day me and all others have to decide what`s up to their liking...or not.... ps you should unseal the connor gershwin almanac asap - this is great music and IMO likely her best outing

Hear, hear. Except the current Japanese Warner jazz discs are garbage. probably it`s because english is not my mother language - but could not find IMO in you last statement. otherwise, i believe that this sort of statements is disrespectful towards other thread contributors........and yes, I do remember you`ve stated your (same) point of view already several times....

WPCR-27901 + WPCR-27902 Yes, I agree with that... her finest hour? I've always been happy with the sound on my Atlantic Jazz CD which contains both of these (I think), so won't be buying these re-issues. BTW, I presume everything on these two is included on my CD? one of her finest hour`s, (IMO) together with this one : btw believe you should have the complete material available on your release of "The Great American Songbook".....

Joe Sample RIP

agreed.... Not that I really care all that much, but did you guys actually compare any albums that were released both in the proper Japanese and the Euro versions? Or is that just a general statement? Which no doubt I don't doubt, just wondering ... As this question is still unanswered, I will try to give it a go : First two CD`s I`ve bought from the series were two "Euro" Cd`s, i. Art Farmer "Softly sing me of the Blues" and Bud Powell " In Paris" - as I do own both records as japanese Vinyl reissues there was a certain "sound in my head" ans listening to both "Euro" CD`s brought some disappointment based on the rather harsh sound. As I`ve been in touch with a friend in Japan we talked about it and he pointed out, that the japanese and the "Euro" CD`S were manufactured in different pressing plants and that he would prefer the japanese Pressings soundwise in any case. Curiosity got the best of me and i ordered both titles via CDJapan. The result was really suprising, as the forementioned harshness of the "Euro" counterparts was minimized to a vast extent and the japanese versions had a clear and spatious sound....and therefore comparable to the Vinyl sound being "part of my system"..... This experience was made via a pretty good, but not "out of the world" stereo equipment......my 5 pence worth.... ps : playing from time to time the two "Euro" CD`s in my garden house and at least the beloved music is still the same

Interestingly this platter - IMO (one of) her best - didn`t make it to this series (last time reissued in Japan 2008).....

WPCR-27901 + WPCR-27902

This is what I`ve found (btw that the same link as the one sent by alankin, just split in subsites) : Charles Lloyd Love In http://wmg.jp/jazz1000/index_01.html Dream Weaver http://wmg.jp/jazz1000/index_01.html Forest Flower http://wmg.jp/jazz1000/index_02.html Journey Within http://wmg.jp/jazz1000/index_03.html Soundrack http://wmg.jp/jazz1000/index_04.html In Europe http://wmg.jp/jazz1000/index_05.html The Flowering http://wmg.jp/jazz1000/index_06.html Chris Connor Chris Craft http://wmg.jp/jazz1000/index_06.html He loves Me He loves Me not http://wmg.jp/jazz1000/index_07.html Sings Ballads of the Sad Cafe http://wmg.jp/jazz1000/index_08.html Chris in Person http://wmg.jp/jazz1000/index_09.html Witchcraft http://wmg.jp/jazz1000/index_09.html A Jazz Date with http://wmg.jp/jazz1000/index_10.html Free Spirits http://wmg.jp/jazz1000/index_10.html Misty http://wmg.jp/jazz1000/index_10.html I Miss You so http://wmg.jp/jazz1000/index_more1.html No Strings http://wmg.jp/jazz1000/index_more1.html And Maynard Ferguson http://wmg.jp/jazz1000/index_more2.html

No, I was actually asking the very same: Japanese v. euro facsimiles (not the older series which I just mentioned since I still don't consider replacing/re-buying). As for the Kenyatta ... it's pretty good indeed! Recorded 1966/67 with Mike Lawrence on trumpet (he can be heard on one of Joe Henderson's Milestone albums), Roswell Rudd, Walter Booker etc. I guess it falls somewhere in the Californian variant of the "Blue Note Avantgarde" that was recently discussed here (i.e. the Simmons/Lasha, Jimmy Woods, Tapscott stuff), but I'm not sure that's a labelling that makes much sense ... haven't played it in a while, will try to remember and drop a line here when I do. No one quite know what they are ... but they can be had for as little as 4 Euro a pop on amazon.it and they include, among many others, all of Charles Lloyd's Atlantic albums, the Chris Connors just discussed, several albums by John Lewis, the MJQ, Art Farmer, Jimmy Giuffre, Milt Jackson and many others. To get an idea: http://www.amazon.it/dp/B00DD0AGRG/ http://www.amazon.it/dp/B00DS7Z3KE/ http://www.amazon.it/dp/B00DD0AGMQ/ Further ones displayed below ... there are several dozen of them around. No idea how they relate to the Japanese series (i.e. if all those Euro ones were part of the Japanese series or not, if they appear in identical batches or what - but there seem to be many more coming out of Japan, the Kenyatta being an example). here you can find for comparison the complete" truly japanese" series http://wmg.jp/jazz1000/index_01.html

agreed....

RIP

YESSSS !!!

Yes Ace is carefully labeling "Ace DANCE" - but of course in hope to cater the same clients/audience. And you`re right about the drought of soul " rarities" - and even if the one or other comes up, quite often there was (based on the music`s quality) a good reason for their rarity ....

When you say R&B, what do you mean? The forties/early fifties recordings of people like Louis Jordan, Joe Liggins, Charles Brown, Amos Milburn etc? Or something like what young people now are calling R&B, which appears to be everything from there and then to here and now? Which is what I call popular black music. MG As I was never a "Northener" - my heart belongs to Soul Music created south of the "Mason-Dixon Line" - can give you just an example via following CD`s (but no forties/early fifties music for sure) : http://acerecords.co.uk/new-breed-rb http://acerecords.co.uk/king-new-breed-rhythm-blues https://acerecords.co.uk/king-new-breed-rb-volume-2 Sure you get the picture....

So being labeled as "Soul Jazz" doesn`t necessarily requiere the artist to play "soulfully"....just curious..... btw if remembering correctly I didn`t state that Dexter Gordon Live in Montreux is "Soul Jazz" but tried to describe the impact of Junior Mance`s playing on other artists and/or recording sessions - this actually in order to answer a question by "The Magnificent Goldberg".... and I was commenting on what I quoted that JimR said - so, no, playing soulfully is apparently not necessary to be 'Soul Jazz', but that's not something I worry 'bout 'cause playing soulfully, i.e. with feeling whether it be expressed in a particularly churchy manner or not, is important to me; contributing to the codification of a marketable genre is not... yes I've got to agree with you about playing soulfully being the important thing and sub-genres of jazz less important. But there are reasons, having to do with the general health of jazz as a whole, why I think that an understand of soul jazz is worthwhile and helpful. See my other response to Danasgoodstuff up a bit. MG didn`t intend neither to invalidate your interest/enthusiasm reg the topic nor question whether the categorisation of "Soul Jazz" is a making sense..... off-topic : as one of my other interests beneath jazz and classical music being soul music, i somehow felt reminded about the passionate followers of the genre "Northern Soul", who extended in the last couple of years (due to lack of new records issued/new "finds" of "old" records) this labeling even to R&B (very often soulfull stuff, but soul ?!?) - sometimes it feels like it`s being forgotten that the basic idea from the 1960`s onwards was about the "danceability" of records/songs (as many Northern Soul anthems are pop records to say the least).......and not labeling..... off-topic end

So being labeled as "Soul Jazz" doesn`t necessarily requiere the artist to play "soulfully"....just curious..... btw if remembering correctly I didn`t state that Dexter Gordon Live in Montreux is "Soul Jazz" but tried to describe the impact of Junior Mance`s playing on other artists and/or recording sessions - this actually in order to answer a question by "The Magnificent Goldberg".... and I was commenting on what I quoted that JimR said - so, no, playing soulfully is apparently not necessary to be 'Soul Jazz', but that's not something I worry 'bout 'cause playing soulfully, i.e. with feeling whether it be expressed in a particularly churchy manner or not, is important to me; contributing to the codification of a marketable genre is not... yes

dear friend, seemingly I should not post if being too tired.......nevertheless as for today i`ve read your post and appreciated i am a dedicated fan of original cover art (and in subject case me believe it`s not worth the discussson whether the new cover was an improvement) but here - even worse - a title was cut due to time constraint......so wonder whether this alltogether qualifies to make me anally-retentive i believe much obscurer titles made it to OJC or OJC Limited edition level, so I was simply wondering btw questioning the choices , but it`s a free country and/or global world.....

So being labeled as "Soul Jazz" doesn`t necessarily requiere the artist to play "soulfully"....just curious..... btw if remembering correctly I didn`t state that Dexter Gordon Live in Montreux is "Soul Jazz" but tried to describe the impact of Junior Mance`s playing on other artists and/or recording sessions - this actually in order to answer a question by "The Magnificent Goldberg"....

It was. It was included in this one which his a twofer of 'Chocomotive' and its follow-up, 'Trust in me'. But one cut from 'Chocomotive' - 'Girl talk' was cut to fit the two LPs onto one CD. In my view, Fantasy would have done better to have linked 'Trust in me' with its follow up, 'Blue oddysey', which would have fitted, and put 'Chocomotive' out as an OJC. But there we are. Of those three albums, personally I rate 'Blue oddysey' the highest, even though it has Curtis Fuller on it - because it also has Pepper Adams in there. MG Ok thnx - actualy I was suprised (= the intention of my previous statement) that this saw neither release as OJC nor as part of a japanese Reissue Series with original cover art, liner notes etc.......

Another rather unheralded major voice of soulfull jazz.....

Yes, that's a nice album. Much though I love Junior, I find it difficult to say that he was a wide influence. Now, if Dan comes in, saying "there's no Three Sounds albums in there, what you playing at?" I claim ignorance because I don't know nearly as much as I should about them or Gene Harris himself. But I've got most of Junior's albums, including all of the ones before '77 except 2 of his Capitol jobs, and can't, therefore, claim ignorance. I'm always reminded of what Chuck Nessa says about him - Junior Mance is a very nice man and a very good piano player - or words to that effect. But give it a go, Soulpope - tell us why you think that's an important moment in soul jazz history. MG Important in Soul Jazz History - not sure whether I can cope with that ranking...but Junior Mance to me was as soulfull as it gets and based on the strength of his contributions a number of recordings, probably not even intentionally, just turned that way......an example ? Here we go : Of course Martin Rivera and Oliver Jackson also didn`t hamper the soulfull groove....

Not on Cd (to my knowledge), but PRESTIGE...

This or any other Junior Mance outing - Jazz Piano rarely was more soulfull......

Edit : Sorry just realized this is about Prestige CD`s - and "Fire Eater" to my knowledge never saw (stand alone) release as CD....but nevertheless this Prestige release is IMO underrated aka unheralded aka not well known.......