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I have two of their reissues. I picked up the LPs when they were on sale and I can't really complain about the sound, I wouldn't be surprised if minty originals were better, but these were under $20 each. The vinyl is quiet and pressed on center.
Under $20? Where? I'd buy several of these if they were under $20. Most places have them for $27-35 plus shipping. At these prices, I'll stick to the CDs.
A few titles were on sale at Soundstage Direct a while ago.
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I have two of their reissues. I picked up the LPs when they were on sale and I can't really complain about the sound, I wouldn't be surprised if minty originals were better, but these were under $20 each. The vinyl is quiet and pressed on center.
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Again, thanks for your interest. I have the rights and am lined up to do both Carter Bradfords and the Tapscott Flying Dutchman. First is Flight for Four, which in my opinion is just killer good. And for those with the vinyl yes it is quite good, but as we have access to the master tapes I think you'll find the sound a jump up. Anyway, now that you know I have the rights to all three ( I think I mentioned it earlier), I need some objective feedback here. Do people on this site feel there is a public interest for the Tapscott Flying Dutchman. I'm a bit concerned about it. Maybe Chuck N. and Larry K. can jump in as they have experience with this. I think Flight for Four will sell about 750 CDs if I'm lucky. Maybe I'm off. Let me know what you guys think on Tapscott, The Giant Is Awakened, which I (correctly or incorretly) assume will sell less. I hope to be in a position in two years where I dont' care about sales and I just put out what is great and let it fly. But I'm not there yet so each investment in the CD reissues need to at least break even.
Flight For Four is a great album, thanks for reissuing it Jonathan. I am definitely in for the Joe Daley set as well, whether it's a box or individual releases it doesn't matter to me.
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Previous discussion:
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Are the early Mosaic vinyl box sets mastered by Ron McMaster (Mastered by Capitol stamped in the dead wax) sourced from digital or analog tape?
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Any updates about this release?
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Can anyone comment on the sound of the limited edition mini-LPs put out by Disc Union? I can see "24 bit by RVG" in the Obi from some pictures. Not sure if it is the same mastering as the UCCI.
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Sonny Rollins - East Broadway Run Down, Impulse! rvg vinyl
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Monk Complete Blue Note Recordings, Mosaic 4 LP
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JLH I picked up Dogon AD and Intents and Purposes when they came out, not knowing anything about the reissue label. These releases sound fantastic, Dogon AD sounded much better than my Arista vinyl. I hope the Joe Daley box set will eventually become a reality. I was very surprised to see you offering master tape dubs on your website. I guess open reel playback really is making a come back! Just curious how those are selling?
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My box finally arrived yesterday (long haul to Australia) - no damage though the sleeved discs were scattered through the box - the "insert/CD cradle" wasn't doing it's job - sorted that problem by glueing (bookbinding glue to the flaps) it into the box -> now sturdy & CDs stay in place
I'm quite impressed with the general design - outer box is sturdy, cover artwork is legible - the book is a real treat - photographs accompany most of the recording sessions (live & studio)
Only listened to the first 2 discs so far - happy with the SQ (long way to go though)
slowly transferring the set to itunes - Unfortunately I've detected a fault -> discs 19 & 20 are identical ie the Mengelberg/Bennink double "Coincidents" (discs 19 & 20 - both ICP 017, both with virtually identical timing) - was originally released as a cassette (ICP #17) - I presume each disc is a side of the cassette - not sure if they have doubled up on side A or B - anyone out there with a copy of the cassette. No, I havn't been given the same disc twice - each disc is labelled # 19 & 20 respectively - i presume we will all have the same error (or was the cassette also like this too?).
Don't have the cassette. Although they are the same composition I haven't listened to more than about a minute of both, so they could diverge in terms of the improvisation. Disc 2 sounds more distorted, though, and that is a definite difference. I must say that as much as I enjoy it this is an inconsistently curated box and there will probably be more mistakes popping up as people who collected the catalog over the years go through their boxes.
I've opened both discs with audacity & the wave forms appear "identical" - also each side of the cassette, AFAIK, had different sources (live localities?) & weren't the same improvised title
I'm hearing the same as ATR; my disc 2 does sound noticeably more distorted, this is clear when focusing in on the piano. I'll look at the files this evening.
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I'll have to check my disc 19 and 20.
Here is what Challenge said about Midwoud 77
The fact that Midwoud '77 is listed on the back is a mistake we (ICP and Challenge) have overlooked during our many rounds of corrections and enhancements of the artwork. Midwoud '77 has been taken out of print by Han and Misha themselves because of the low quality of the audio. They then re-used the catalogue number ICP013 for Een Mirkalese Tocht. Because the source of that issue are 6 seperate flexidiscs that do not fit a single audio cd we have 2 discs. Which is, I presume, also the reason it was overlooked on the back of the box.
Kind regards,
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If you're in a desert location, not much you can do about dust, besides get an air filtration system or something.
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WB reissue
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Still haven't heard back from Challenge regarding ICP013
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Japan King Records
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Is ICP015 (Epistrophy) an example of one of the poor sounding needle drops? I don't have the original vinyl for this one, but the CD is quite muffled. It sounds like it is inherent to the recording though.
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Miles Davis - On The Corner (US Columbia red label)
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Do you guys have Midwoud '77 in your set? Mine and another person that bought the set did not come with one.
It is one of two titles that shared the catalog # ICP013. It is listed on the back of the box, but not on the insert.
http://www.discogs.com/Misha-Mengelberg-Han-Bennink-Midwoud-77/release/1931617
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I have a few of their early LPs. I don't plan to sell them, but I won't be paying Ebay prices for them either. I played ICP004 and it sounded fine to me over headphones.
I guess I'm thankful that for the 5 or 6 albums I've played all of them have not been squashed dynamically or had the treble boosted. I played the Albert Ayler Complete Live at the Greenwich Village set immediately after listening to ICP039 and it sounded harsh and loud in contrast.
Some of the albums have pushed my boundaries as far as free music goes. ICP037 with the toy keyboard and sound effects was something else
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There are a couple of problems I have with the set so far (other than fiscal inaccessibility for most):
1) The needle-drops don't sound all that great so far. Honestly, I think I have better vinyl copies than some of the sources they used.
2) The Boersma photos are great, but like the wonderful books that came with the FMP boxes For Example, Cecil Taylor in Berlin, and In Retrospect, there's a dearth of liner notes/exhaustive session information. I suppose they didn't want to pay writers? Surely there are enough living critics/historians of the Dutch scene that this could have been done in an interesting way. The "Contents" sheet is pretty hard to read and not entirely sensible.
3) "Hand painted" my ass.
I'll be working through the set over the next month and hope to have an exhaustive writeup on it myself in the early spring. I'm glad the set exists but there are some things I wish that ICP/Challenge had done differently.
Agree that the needledrops aren't that good.
Agree that 'handpainted' was false advertising. The boxes were individually signed by Han Bennink.
Although I would liked to have more in the way of notes, I think the personnel listings are very readable and I have no problem with them. I would have liked this sheet even if there were notes in addition.
Surprised no one seems disappointed with the quality of the box itself. The cut and folded piece of paper was a bad decision. Worse if they did it to keep the production cost down.
The way the box holds the CDs isn't great (in fact mine weren't stacked up on top of each other when it arrived), but I prefer the LP sized box over something like the classical Masterpieces series ie this box) purely from an aesthetics point. I was going to place the discs in mini jewel cases since I don't trust the sleeves keeping the CDs scratch free.
From a music perspective I am extremely happy to have purchased this set.
Are the needle drops from their earliest LPs?
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I was a bit annoyed by the "hand painted" part. Considering the beautiful artwork Han has created in the past, a pencil sketch, shading in the lower left and adding a year was far from what I was expecting.
I have mostly been listening to albums they released in the last two decades; ones I hadn't heard before, very impressed with how far they have taken improvised music.
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Very pleased to have picked this up. Made my way through 3 releases I didn't own and enjoyed the music very much.
Does anyone know what the lined piece of paper glued to the front of the box is? I see it on martini's picture and have one on mine as well.
Isn't it a bit of musical staff paper?
That makes sense. It looked like a piece of a note card to me...
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Very pleased to have picked this up. Made my way through 3 releases I didn't own and enjoyed the music very much.
Does anyone know what the lined piece of paper glued to the front of the box is? I see it on martini's picture and have one on mine as well.
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I picked up Breaking Point and Stick-Up. If you search for Heavenly Sweetness on their site a few of them are on sale though they were a bit cheaper when I bought them. I was hoping to get Contours and A New Conception.