RainyDay

Why make it easier to ignore by calling it something that to an outsider doesn't appear to be relevant? Funny Rat may mean something to some folks but to me, it was a thread I had no interest in looking at. I think an AG/Free thread is probably better than a forum. Same for any other genre. If the thread gets too fat and diverse within the genre, then maybe start a forum.

Did I miss this post? Where was it? Hmm, sorry I can't find it (my ISP is acting up which is making mere posting difficult.) It was from a thread long ago. I remember it just because I was in major Henderson accumulation mode at the time. As I recall Rainyday's story went along the lines that she doesn't try to talk up the talent at clubs other than to say "nice show" (or the equivalent) if she happens to pass by on the way to the door. Uh, sorry, I'm back from the bar myself so I'm not sure exactly now how exactly the story goes, but perhaps she mentioned how she'd enjoyed his performance the time before and he mentioned he remembered seeing her. (Hiccup on my part.) Anyway, her tale is not in this thread. I think I need some water! P.W.I. - posting while intoxicated. I actually posted this story on another thread, possibly on another BBS. A dear friend of mine used to play drums with Joe back in the 1970's. Back then, Tom Grant played piano with them. They were a great band. Tom continues to be one of my favorite piano players. Whenever they came to the Bay Area, I always went to see them, and I caught them out of town a few of times. I had the pleasure of meeting Joe a couple times. My friemd would always say "Joe, you remember my friend RainyDay," and Joe would always say yes. Maybe he did remember me. I always figure people don't remember me. He was always terribly polite. I never had a real conversation with Joe but he was part of the landscape of my life during my UC Berkeley days. When he died, I attended his memorial at Yoshi's and cried like a baby. I wrote about his memorial because so many artists attended and it had funny moments as well as the sad ones. Maybe I will post it here. Edited for coherence

I thought this was going to be a thread about Dubya.

Talkin' about good music and bad personality: Have you watched/read "The clockwork orange? :rsmile: :rsmile: :rsmile: But seriously I wish everybody would listen to music instead of fighting and the only battles would be "Tenor battles" (or any other instrument!). I have seen it. Fortunately, it didn't ruin Singing in the Rain for me.

BTW, my son turns TWENTY-ONE today! I can't believe how big he's gotten!!! (Sorry, no pix available).

Oh, jeez, dad, can't a girl take a nap? Seriously, I'm dying here from sugar overload. These are great pix. Gad, she gets cuter every month.

I missed the new pic! Wow, she is becoming her own little person. She is a real sweetie. Maybe I need to visit the baby pix thread and see what/who else is new.

Joe had a distinctive tone. Who cares whether he was an innovator? He had a unique tone and was a damn fine player--that's innovative enough for me. Joe will always have a special place in my heart. He was a wonderful artist.

Okay, so Malcolm X will be the priority for now. Great photo! How did you get so close with the camera? Did you smuggle the camera in? I would kill to take pix at Yoshi's. I brought a camera into Pete Escovedo's last club in the East Bay and the pix came out horrible! Not sure why because I've shot in a club before but this time it just didn't work.

DrJ: What a beautiful child! I love the baby pictures. I've known about Blanchard in the nonspecific way you know an artist from the radio but don't really pay attention and I know his filmwork, which I thought was good but I never was motivated to go and check him out. When I saw him at Yoshi's, a friend really urged me to go because he is such a huge fan. He was in a very strange mood, maybe a bad flight, maybe ill, who knows? Anyway, later when Bounce came out, KCSM played it to death and that's when I first started really listening to his music. He has a wonderful tone and he writes and arranges very nicely. I'm a huge Kenny Garrett fan so Romantic Defiance sounds like a good investment. I don't buy records that much, see, and you guys are going to get me in trouble!

Hmmm. I gave some cash to KCSM during their membership drive a couple weeks ago and I haven't received my James Brown CD yet. Damn thieves! Sorry, couldn't help myself.

Exercise. Until you figure out what's going on with you, exercise your butt off. And if you feel too tired to exercise, do it anyway. If you are depressed, you will feel exhausted all the time. Exercise is surprisingly energizing. My doctor once told me that exercise is the poor person's anti-depressant. Hope you get better. And go see your doctor. Men don't like to go to the doctor but it's a good idea. It's not weak, or whiny, or anything. It's taking care of yourself.

Thanks for the tip. I'll look for this one.

I will assume it was a bad night. The person who talked me into going to see him agreed that he was "tired" that night. In addition to not being terribly inspiring in his playing that night, he had this odd "I'm too cool for the room" attitude that was very off putting. In fact, when he came back to Yoshi's a year or so later to promote "Bounce," I wouldn't go see him because I was so turned off by him previously. I was told that he smoked during that run at Yoshi's so I'm the one that blew it that time. Everybody has a bad day but someone has to be very off for me to not give them another shot.

Kenny Kirkland's work in "Chinatown" is gorgeous. Simply beautiful. I was sitting here remembering where I was when I heard it announced that he had been found dead of an overdose. I stopped dead in my tracks during my morning walk in complete shock. Hard not to be deeply melancholy about his death when I hear him playing a song that is itself so haunted.

...after listening to "Jazz in Film." The work is simply beautiful. I heard “Streetcar Named Desire” this morning on the radio while sitting at the car repair and all I could do was count the minutes before heading out to find a copy of the CD. Don’t ask me how this work has managed to escape my attention for so many years. A friend recommended this to me years ago and I will never ignore his advice again. Seriously, how could you listen to this and then want to go out and hurt another living soul? How could you want to do anything more than punch the repeat button and listen to it for a few hours nonstop? Do you have to know the films for the music to work? I guess not since I haven’t seen a couple of the films and yet the music just sings to me. "Chinatown" is one of my favorite films and I very nearly cried when Blanchard blows his first few notes in the song. Do you have to know that the film will break your heart in order for the music to do the same? I don't think so. I saw this movie many, many years ago and that trumpet solo hooked me in right away. I’ve heard other versions and none could touch the original until now. Blanchard creates a whole new song and takes you to a few different places, but the song still evokes the same old feelings. Listening to this work is like falling in love. It’s like discovering something precious and brand new. Kenny Kirkland, Joe Henderson, what lovely work they both leave on this recording. Maybe that’s part of the heartbreak. Both gone too soon. Having seen Blanchard once live and having been completely underwhelmed with his playing and with HIM, I have to say this is one artist whose recordings I can really dive into and get carried away by the current. “Bounce” is another solid piece of work that I find quite moving. But “Jazz in Film” is something else altogether. Have mercy. I need a drink.

Jazzdog: I caught Jamal at Yoshi's earlier this year and he was terrific. Muhammad was with him but I don't recall who was on bass. I wanted to see him in a smaller venue because I saw him a couple years ago at SF Jazz and wondered if the dynamic would be different in a smaller venue. In both cases, he was magnificent. I have not seen him before SF Jazz. I probably wrote a review somewhere. Jamal and Muhammad are two favorites of mine that go back to when I was a young. Maine's a long way to go for a concert.

I find it annoying more than purely offensive. And I agree with B3-er, it is childish. When I see this avatar and the boucning boob avatar, and other similar avatars, I usually skip the post, sometimes I skim the first line then keep going.

I am speechless. I'm the resident defender of speech, here, even speech that makes me want to slap the taste out of someone's mouth. I only glanced at the Babe Thread a couple times and quickly left. It certainly bugged me but it wouldn't necessarily make me leave and not come back. On the other hand, I'd be a total fraud if I didn't admit that it affected how I felt about the guys who posted there. Maybe that's unfair but it's the truth. The Rachel Ray thread I actually read all the way through, not sure why, and found myself really annoyed. I actually watch both of her shows and find them both interesting and informative. It grates on my nerves that the first thing out of a man's mouth is how a woman looks. Someone referred to another woman on the Food Network with some slur about being a fat pig or something. Nice. Nothing about whether Ray's shows have value, just endless commentary about how she looks. The message this sends is that her shows aren't worth a damn unless she looks good and the content is irrelevant. Her ass and her boobs are all that matters. It's demeaning, worse, it's insulting. I suspect some of you don't get this at all. I'm not a prude just a woman who's been around the block and could easily go through what's left of my life without seeing women depicted and judged on their body parts. Maybe it's a generational thing. I get the impression that the other women here don't mind the girly stuff and I try to respect that. But I find it really tiresome and the best way to get me to stop listening is to hear guys, and gals, carry on about how a woman looks. This carries over to jazz, by the way. Any discussion about a female musician involves a detailed accounting of how she looks. Her musical ability is secondary. It's just tiresome. Part of my attitude about this is that when I was young and skinny and cute, I received way to much unwanted attention from men about my looks and I resented it enormously. Men I'd never seen in my life before felt entitled to make comments about my body in a loud and public way. I even had men grab me in public. So yes, I have a real problem with women being reduced to body parts. I won't miss the thread.

I don't care for her singing. Watching her sing live is painful. She engages in gross affectations with her mouth that it is a distraction to watch. Her delivery is so dramatic and overstylized that it just doesn't project any feeling. People seem to dig her but she leaves me very cold. There aren't a lot of younger singers out there that I connect with, which is disappointing. Some of the younger singers I've caught glimpese of on BET on Jazz seem to have some sloppy habits, like not breathing correctly, and singing enough off key to be annoying.

This not a whine, just an observation. But the thing is, I'm not a record collector. I buy few CDs anymore, mainly because they are grossly overpriced and I honestly don't have time to listen to what I have. Something has to knock my shoes off before I buy it. Very often, I will see someone live and be so moved by the performance, I will buy whatever they were playing if it is availalbe on CD. It's very disappointing if the material they played hasn't been recorded. Anyway, I wish there was a place for folks like me who attend live performances more than they buy records to rattle on at great length and get into conversations with folks about who we saw and what we did or didn't like about it. My comments about live performance in a thread about an artist's recordings are ususally out of place. Carry on.

In today's SF Chronicle:

Francisco Suspended for Rest of Season After Chair-Throwing Incident Source: kcbs Publication date: 2004-09-17 (KCBS/AP) - Texas Rangers pitcher Frank Francisco has been suspended for the rest of the season, after he threw a chair that hit a woman and broke her nose during a game against the Oakland A's earlier this week. Two teammates and a coach were also suspended for several games. Pitcher Doug Brocail was suspended for seven games and reliever Carlos Almanzar and hitting coach Rudy Jaramillo were suspended for five games. Jaramillo's suspension is scheduled to begin Friday night against the Anaheim Angels. Unless appealed, the suspensions for Francisco and Brocail were scheduled to begin Friday, while the suspension for Almanzar is scheduled to begin Saturday. All four were fined. Francisco's suspension will be for no less than 16 regular season games in the event of an appeal, said baseball vice president Bob Watson. Francisco threw the chair into the right-field box seats and hit two spectators in the head on Monday night during Texas' 7-6, 10-inning loss. With two outs in the ninth inning, the Rangers' Alfonso Soriano tied the game 5-5 with his second homer of the night. Moments later, with Hank Blalock at the plate, the Texas bench and bullpen cleared. Francisco was arrested and taken from the stadium to jail, where he was booked and his mug shot was taken. He was released about two hours later on $15,000 bail. Jennifer Bueno, whose nose was broken, said Wednesday she plans to seek compensation for her injuries once prosecutors and baseball officials complete their investigation. Earlier this week, Francisco's attorney, Rick Minkoff, said the player rushed out of the dugout to defend his teammates, and was pushed up against a fence in the crush of fans and players. Francisco, 25, was the American League rookie of the month for August, when he was 3-0 with a 1.69 ERA. (Copyright 2004 by KCBS. All Rights Reserved. The Associated Press contributed to this report.) (3:25pm, gcb)

This reminds of the puppy who shot the guy who was shooting unwanted puppies. I don't feel sorry for the guy who was shot and I don't feel sorry for the woman who got her nose broken. Boors like this keep the rest of us out of the ball park. Nobody here knows what was said to make Francisco throw the chair so I'm not sure why anyone would say Mr. Fan didn't say anything that deserved getting attacked. How come no one has asked how much alcohol these fans had consumed? I'll eat my keyboard if these people weren't drunk. The film footage included a fan holding up his fists in some kind of victory gesture and grinning. He didn't seem to care that a woman was bleeding. Francisco should get whatever the justice system gives him. I don't care much whether he is suspended or not. Frankly, I'm glad the players struck back. I laughed out loud when I read Mrs. Fan say they were so scared when the players started coming over the wall. Serves them right. A's fans and Raiders fans are notoriously uncivilized people and the worst trouble makers almost always come from the suburbs, "nice" neighborhoods. Mrs. Fan was quoted saying she was scared for her safety now and not sure she would come back to the Coliseum. Good riddance. Finally, if my nose was broken over my partner acting a fool in public, he would need surgery to remove my foot from his behind.

I'm not a collector so unfortunately, I never have much to add to this type of discussion. But having seen him live a few times over the last couple years, the best I've seen him play during this time was in the Fall of 2002 when he followed a set by Branford Marsalis. Shorter was on fire that night and played with more heart and passion than I'd seen recently. Maybe it was because he followed that Maralis kid, but he was cooking that night.