T.D.
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19 hours ago, JSngry said:
A Mosaic of all known Ra recordings from his time in Chicago in chronological/session order would be a wonderful thing, but I don't think there's a business opening for that now. That's a good thing in that there is an active and ongoing market for all things Ra right now.
Fortunately, the resources to "build your own" such set are available, so...carpe diem
I think Sun Ra LLC has been killing it with Ra reissues, quantity, quality and sound-wise. Hard to imagine Mosaic stepping into their bailiwick. More than happy to "build my own".
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The Ben Johnston (microtonal) string quartet cycle.
Starting with this, the other 2 discs probably later.
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I'm culling the Novak Quartet (Philips) recording which I dislike (on the Pay it Forward thread if anyone cares) and replacing it with an ultra-"Hungarian" version, Végh mono 1954.
I have the Végh 1970s Beethoven set (Valois) and am curious about earlier vintage recordings by them.
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Couple of small local things this weekend
Paul Pinto and James Ilgenfritz Saturday, part of a new improv series @ a revived venue
Tani Tabbal Quartet Sunday
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I have a CD of this. Something you might want to check out: Carter (played by the dedicatees), Babbitt and Mel Powell (!)
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23 minutes ago, JSngry said:
Indeed. Maybe a missing link between Hassan and Elmo?
Matthew Shipp seems to think there is. In his "Black Mystery School Pianists" essay there's an enigmatic paragraph:
I have wrestled with whether Elmo Hope belongs in the group. I am not sure. I go back and forth for different reasons. If he is, a lot of it would be because of his influence on Hasaan Ibn Ali, who is another extreme of an ultimate example of this.
Sadly, Shipp doesn't elaborate.
[I recalled seeing this passage but it took a while to remember the source. I just reread 2 Hasaan CD booklets, one of which was written by Shipp but does not posit any influence, and got the idea to revisit his famous essay.]
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Homecoming is one of my favorites, too. More upbeat than many Elmo albums.
Just noticed: kind of strange that the above 2 covers use the same photo.
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The old Carter recordings by the Composers Quartet are really good, but I think they only did three: 2 on Nonesuch and 1 on Music and Arts. Might be some cheap LPs out there. Complete sets I can only think of Arditti (#5 is an add-on to prior 1-4), Juilliard and Pacifica.
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Jim, you've motivated me to get serious about the Bartok SQ.
I owned the Novak Qt. recording (Philips) for many many years, but their rendition never registered/resonated so I thought I was a moron/Philistine for "not getting" these works.
Came by (free) the Emerson version a few years ago and find that much more enjoyable. Spun it this week and am beginning to appreciate the quartets. I selectively like the Emersons (love their Ives, for instance) and they're certainly technically proficient.
Now I'm going to try the other end of the interpretation spectrum with a more "Hungarian" recording. So many versions out there that researching takes a while.
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Finishing up:
#8: Nice track, sounds like a duet on my bad computer sound system. Suspected a name tenor but no guess. I peeked, and then had to sleuth (withheld) due to curiosity about the pianist, who clearly is not "the usual suspect" Cedar Walton. Pianist is a prominent/prolific guy I like a lot but who sometimes gets some stick on the forum. He's in great form here.
#9: Far from my usual listening and absolutely no idea about the musicians, but I like it. Especially the bass line. Looking forward to the reveal, particularly for the bassist.
#10: Even more of a departure from usual listening and less able to guess. But a good selection. Percussion is most impressive, arrangement also sticks out.
#11: Sounds on my computer like a piano-bass-guitar trio with really nice and subtle interplay, pianist most likely the leader but perhaps it's billed as a trio. The kind of contemplative moody selection I usually like and do here. I peeked at the ECM hints but don't have any guesses and am not sure it's 21st century...could (though less likely) be as early as 1970s. Even though I'm not a big ECM enthusiast, this is a recording I'd consider picking up.
Thanks for a most enjoyable BFT. After seeing Jim's reveal, I feel silly about dissing #5, but I've never related to that particular ensemble as much as some others with the estimable leader. Tracks #2, 4, 9 and 11 the most thought-provoking. The #7 leader is always a welcome guest!
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Massive surprise. I honestly thought it was an April Fools-type hoax.
Music-wise I'm thrilled.
However, I've been downsizing and had sworn to purchase no more Mosaic sets since I can no longer abide their bulky format.
So probably not.
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1 hour ago, HutchFan said:
Yes, it's an EXCELLENT album. Probably Beirach's strongest in this century.
Regarding the album's scarcity: Has OutNote gone belly up? I hope not.
Whoa, the album's not that scarce.
I had only looked for discogs US $ sellers. Currently just one, used, at a high but not exorbitant price.
Amazon (where I rarely look any more) has it new at a midrange price. Available used for a song if I wanna roll the dice on ex-library.
Label seems to be part of the outhere portfolio, which includes Werner's ezz-thetics in jazzland and a bunch of estimable classical labels, so it's probably still extant.
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This is really funny.
I dig #2 but had no clue. Based on Jim's and felser's posts, I sleuthed it. No credit claimed, but it's here.
From one of 2 albums (by the same group) I've seen on DG's "CD Deals" pages from to time. At one point I was on the verge of purchasing both, but held off for some reason. I have heard one tune by this group before, on one of the "Spiritual Jazz" compilations.
Since "The Bastards" still have this one for $6.99/2 CDs I just sprang for it.
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I know the label mainly through youtube.
I like the UJ+RE material and would purchase some at reasonable prices. There's quite a bit of jazz-rock with other headliners, e.g. Nucleus, that I haven't heard.
The only physical material I own is a CD of Meditation on a Landscape - Tagore by Dauner and Charlie Mariano. I like it a lot, but it's arguably meditation or "mood" music. I expect there are a lot of similar things on the label, probably quite a bit of dreck mixed in, but I haven't spent that much time looking on youtube. Plum Island by Charlie Mariano is quite good, but does venture into mood/smooth territory at times and I wouldn't purchase it.
I suspect that aside from the jazz-rock stuff it's a mixed bag. I've been meaning to explore the Dauner solo albums, but haven't started yet because I expect some duds are mixed in (I'm not so fond of his electronics).
I think the label was a cool project and am surprised it went on for so long. But the paucity of available reissues and downloads probably says something.
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1 hour ago, rostasi said:
My point was that you just did.
Sorry. Didn't know the terminology. Thought it'd be weirder.
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45 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said:
Sue Lynch and Regan Bowering – Sax and Drums
I always understand "maths" in musical prefix terms to just mean "has jarring changes in time signatures". A way of saying "proggy" without also suggesting that the music might be lame.
Thanks. Not being familiar with the usage, I thought things like counterpoint, retrograde, and even serialism might qualify. If we extend "maths" to "probability", even some of Xenakis's stochastic music (which I think is mathematically -at least- lame, having seen some simplistic underlying FORTRAN code).
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26 minutes ago, rostasi said:
So, there's "math rock."
Is there such a thing as "math jazz?"I'm a nerd and former math major. If there's "math jazz" I'd like to hear some.
Although I don't love a lot of the music classified as "math rock".
I'm not sure what "math classical" would consist of. Some candidates (microtonalists, Nancarrow) I like, some ("New Complexity") I don't. Would Feldman qualify based on weird time signatures?
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The Complete Pharoah Sanders Theresa Recordings - New Mosaic
in Mosaic and other box sets...
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Thanks for the tip.
I was fortunate to cop the Eternal Myth Revealed set when Stefan Wood was a big seller here.
And I have a Campbell discography in Szwed's book.
On the negative side of the ledger, I'm an old fart and have been too much of a Luddite to go the download route, so grouping by date or session looks like a daunting project.