[Amy Winehouse]

The main difference for me between Lohan and Amy Winehouse is that Amy Winehouse actually has talent. Lindsay Lohan is one of those people who is famous for being famous, not unlike Paris Hilton.

I agree re: Paris, but Lohan was once a talented - or at least very promising - young actress with a legitimate career ahead of her. Might not have been at the level of a Streep - not many are! - but she did have talent that she's now squandered.

Is it wrong for me to say that at some point in their lives, people really do have to make the choice to get sober and stay sober, and that if they fail to make that choice, hey, sorry 'bout that, but ya' know, I've pretty much used up my supply of tears for people who make their choices & then get hit by the consequences. It's not nearly "sad" as much as it is predictable and/or inevitable, and life definitely goes on.

Not wrong at all imo.

[Are there any box bargains currently available?]

Woodstock 5-LP box set, $5 from Best Buy online.

Thanks! May be a mistake, but worth a shot.

[GLBT jazz musicians]

Why should this be an issue or program?

It shouldn't be an issue, but featuring GLBT jazz musicians during Pride Month seems an appropriate honor to me - provided, of course, that's it's done in the spirit of "honoring them."

[Is the DCC gold CD of Coltrane's "Lush Life" worth it?]

No CD is worth $150 imo. Buy the OJC and try to download the DCC (which does sound very good).

[Leave of absence]

Ditto the above. Hope things work out for you and that you aren't gone long. Just remember that you have friends here, regardless of how many discs you might have or even how much you'd care to talk about jazz right now.

[Happy Birthday Kalo!!]

Happy Birthday!

[Happy Birthday RDK!]

Thanks guys!

[Are there any box bargains currently available?]

Geez, I just bought one for my wife's birthday a few months ago. Same great deal from Amazon too!

[Great film footage of the shuttle launch]

Thanks for this! We're actually planning a road trip next month to Florida to see the last launch of the space shuttle. It's something I've always wanted to do.

[Men of a Certain Age]

Great show for us "older" guys.

[Looking for a turntable and need some advice/opinions]

Wow. Some of the better, cheaper tables have really gone up in price. I have a Music Hall MMF5 that I really like, bought barely used at around $350, but now looks to be $800+ new. Still, I'd look at the base-level Rega or Music Hall/Project before I'd go with a Technics if I was gonna spend $3-400. You might want to check out a number of thrift store, though, as you might get lucky and find a nice, 1980's-era table for $20 or so. I bought an old H-K table from 1980 or so for that price and other than needing a new cartridge it was as good as anything made now in the price range you're looking for. The problem with the new tables is that the cheap ones are bad and anything decent is expensive. But that wasn't always the case with vintage tables, and you can often find decent ones very cheaply.

[Real, but sure looks fake!]

That's a great site in general! Thanks.

[Not sure where to post this]

Selling the database of member email addresses to various marketing firms that specialize in products for "upper class, intelligent clientele" (yes, I've gotten offers to do just that, many many times for quite a bit of money... but I never have) = bad and unethical

See the difference?

I see the difference. In addition to the other reasons why it would be unethical to sell the data base, it would amount to your representation that we are a group of "upper class, intelligent" people. How could you say that and live with yourself?

Yeah, Jim's also met some of us so he should know better!

[Not sure where to post this]

Interesting thread, and I'm glad to see the open and frank discussion that it's generated. I can actually see both sides of the issue. I'm not sure that I'd call it "unethical" to solicit good reviews for one's product, though I can also understand that such a thing might seem a bit "spammy" and could backfire in regards the credibility of said reviews. On the other hand, I see no problem in simply asking or reminding those who have purchased the CD to post a review of it. Heck, after nearly every Amazon purchase I receive a follow-up email asking me to review the product. Sometimes I do, but most of the time I don't. To be honest, I have a copy of the disc in question somewhere, but I've misplaced it and haven't heard it in a while. I remember it being quite good - not surprisingly as I dig most of Marsh's work - but I don't feel comfortable "reviewing" it until I can find it and give it another listen or two. When that time comes, spurred by Chuck's request, I'll post a review (whether good or bad) on Amazon. I don't consider that unethical at all.

[Storied Trove of 1930s Jazz Is Acquired by Museum]

Flexi-discs on cereal boxed. That's the way to go. I wanna see Coleman Hawkins on a box of freakin' Wheaties before I die.

You can make it happen Jim!

http://www.etsy.com/listing/72833026/custom-wheaties-box-with-your-image-or?ref=cat2_gallery_23

[Storied Trove of 1930s Jazz Is Acquired by Museum]

It's easy, of course, to get sidetracked in hypotheticals, but nevertheless, putting aside financial considerations and the "needs of humanity," if there are really only two options here the music is either released unencumbered ("freely" or nearly) or it's held up in perpetuity due to unsurmountable legalities. If those are the only choices, which do you think is preferable? A musician is an artist and an artist is only as good as the work he creates. I have a hard time believing that any artist would want his or her legacy "locked away" and kept from the public for any reason, especially long after one's demise. The lesser of the two evils, imo, is to release the damn stuff.

[Storied Trove of 1930s Jazz Is Acquired by Museum]

I don't think Savory's family or the club owners would be a factor at all. If I understand things correctly, it'd be a straight copyright issue, meaning the various musicians involved and possibly the composers of the tunes that were covered.

I wonder if there's a way for the more magnanimous rights holders to somehow "bequeath" any of these specific works to the public domain so that they could be freely (or cheaply) distributed for the good of humanity?

[Mosaic Sets for Sale]

Am I the only one that believes that being a jazz journalist (whatever the hell that means) does not entitle one to receive their music for free? As someone who has paid for ALL of my music (and believe me, there's a ton of it), this just rubs me the wrong way all the way around.

That's a completely irrelevant point. Mosaic (or any other label) can deal with promo/review copies in any way they feel is appropriate. And why should jazz reviewers be treated differently from any other music reviewers? You may disagree with the policy, but promo/review copies have been a way of "doing business" for decades now.

And what's so hard to understand about being a "jazz journalist?" It's someone who makes a living - or just does it for kicks - writing about jazz music and the musicians who perform it.

[Mosaic Sets for Sale]

Not my business, but I have to side with the seller here. How he came into possession of the Mosaics, as long as it was legal, is irrelevant. In fact, he implies that he paid for some of the promos. And I dare say the enthusiasm with which they were snapped up demonstrates that those who did buy them had no problem with how the OP acquired them.

Someone may disapprove of someone selling something that was given to them, but I'm not sure that alone is unethical at all.

Coming late to this, but I agree completely.

[Record Store Day]

I ended up with the Crowded House live set and the Hendrix cd single. Was hoping to get the REM single box and the Pink Floyd live 66/67 too, but didn't see them.

I was really excited for the R.E.M. box until I saw that it was priced anywhere from $28-32. Sheesh!

[Mosaic Sets for Sale]

Got the Basie already but that was really too low priced....also compared to the others.....

/Shaft

I think the Roulette's in error. Set 229 is the Basie Verve. Still a decent price though.

[LF: pianists who should be corny but are not.]

I think corny is a you know it when you see it sort of thing.

Apparently I don't because I never would have put Mehldau in this category.

Me neither. I can think of a few pianists who I might consider intentionally "corny" - Liberace, Crazy Otto - and I might even give you a horn player like Boots Randolph or Richie Cole, though again I think much of the corniness is intentional. Would Erroll Garner be considered corny? Perhaps. But I'm thrown by the "who should be corny but aren't" thing.

[LF: pianists who should be corny but are not.]

No one has yet defined the operative term "corny", so I'm just going to go with Liberace.

I've heard that some people believe that Liberace was the gratest piano player who ever lived.

[Barry Bonds On Trial]

Having recently been on the jury of a rather weak prosecution case - but one in which we nevertheless found the creep guilty (we were all convinced he did it despite a weak case) - I really feel for the lone holdout and hope that it's not because s/he is a Giants fan.

[Barry Bonds On Trial]

Putting ketchup on a hot dog is fucking stupid.

You're welcome.

Hey now!

As someone who detests all things pickle or mustard - seriously, I can't stand them! - my hot dog condiment of choice is ketchup or bbq sauce. But if it's a really good, flavorful dog I actually do prefer them plain.

No, putting steak sauce on a good steak is fucking stupid. Putting ketchup on a hot dog is like putting mustard on a hot dog, except it's ketchup and not mustard.

Either way, it's still a hot dog.

Now this I can agree with!

Why have a plain old nasty hot dog, when you can have a spicy sausage? With mustard, or with marinara and mozzarella, a sausage beats a frank in every way imaginable.

Jon wins!