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Rabshakeh

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  1. It's an interesting one. Part of what makes Ascension what it is for me is just how wonky the cast list is.

    On the original, neither trumpeter is right at all, the rhythm section is one step away from downing tools (except for when Hubbard plays, when suddenly they're all nicey nicey), and some of the saxophone players were really just randoms at the time, like Marion Brown. There are gaping holes like no Don Cherry and no Gato Barbieri. 

    I would like to discover that the new CryptoAscension had Hannibal Marvin Peterson and Alan Shorter on trumpet, or at least Ted Curson or Barbara Donald. I think that the failure to include stronger free trumpet is probably for me the weakest part of the original Ascension, both in terms of music and legacy - given what a star making record it was for the saxophone players, the lack of decent free trumpet effectively buries the instrument in the free context, leaving Don Cherry as the only high profile avant trumpet player until Lester Bowie. Cryptoscension is our chance to fix that, and get names like Alan Shorter stuffing the "spiritual jazz" sections of thousands of RSD sale bins.

    For piano and drums, it would just be players who could keep up and were willing to be noisey (e.g. Burrell and Murray?) but perhaps Bobby Few on keys, if you were willing to make the new CryptoAscension into something quite different. I really like Few in a free blowing context.

    For saxophone, Frank Wright would be a contender, to represent the Ayler crowd, and then Sam Rivers, doing something very different. 

  2. 21 hours ago, Late said:

    I wonder if Ray Davies or Pete Townsend heard this record at the time. They both created works in a similar vein which were far less complex but received far more exposure. 

    This had occurred to me too. It breathes very much the same air. Also the Aphrodite’s Child record 666.

    i am less in love with it. It’s a record that I enjoy despite it being, in my view, probably a bit too of it’s time.

  3. 2 minutes ago, mjazzg said:

    First listen in years, inspired by your Jazz I Sverige thread.  It's a lot better than I remember it, worth a listen definitely.

    it's quite beefy in parts, a bit like the early Garbarek Quartet ECMs which isn't much of a surprise.

    I've been mulling a major sifting of the LP collection and had this in mind as a "to sell", not now

    Thanks. I'll check it out at least. Stenson with beef sounds compelling enough to at least try.

    3 minutes ago, mjazzg said:

    If it were reissued today Stranger Than Paradise would have it in the 'Spiritual Jazz' (which it isn't) section and rave about it...

    They'd put Wham in 'Spiritual Jazz'.

  4. 2 hours ago, mjazzg said:

    I have the Maffy Falay,  Rena Rama and Iskra. Of the three Iskra is the most interesting, Falay the most fun and Rena Rama the least played.  I'd say each of them merit a stream on a quiet day but none is essential.

    I'll be interested to hear views on other titles, good thread.

    Thanks. 

    I think I found the cover art appealing, and hoped a few would be winners.

  5. 4 hours ago, JSngry said:

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    Tracks 3-5 are...masterful. The others are fine, very fine, but those three... Carla Bley BIG BAND!!! 

    This'un's a good'n.

    5 hours ago, Chuck Nessa said:

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    Obviously, this too.

    6 hours ago, HutchFan said:

    Interesting.  My take is very different.  I dig the trio cuts.

    More than the quartet track?

    I enjoy a lot of Joachim Kuhn's music, but I really think that the second LP is much improved by Dudek.

  6. 7 hours ago, Ken Dryden said:

    The younger two got 30% each and the older two 20%, if I remember right. A crappy thing to do to your kids.

    The point was that I don't think the two older kids had power to control decision making. I think that percentages meant that it was in the hands of Ahmet.

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