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Same goes for the Charlie Christian series. I think volume 9 is the only CD including the "Stompin' At The Savoy" from Minton's (May 8, 1941) British labels: Everybody knows about JSP, but IMHO Scottish label Hep is very good too. F

That's very likely. Everest recordings have reissued on CD by Evidence, Collectables and Fresh Sound, if I recall correctly. There's a third Everest LP by Jo Jones, "Percussion & Bass", a duet with Milt Hinton. Reissued in CD by Fresh Sound, but out of stock as far as I know. All the Everest/Fresh Sound CDs I have state that they own the rights for the recordings. As for the fascinating world of reissues Gloria Lynne says in her autobiography: "Early in 1998, a company called Collectables released four compact discs from albums I did in the sixties with Everest records. When I first spoke to Jerry Green, president of Collectables, he told me he was trying to get Everest to give him the masters of my recordings, but they refused to release them. So he asked me to send him the albums I had. I sent him seven albums and he paid me $7 000 for them. He also gave me a contract for royalties." From Gloria Lynne w/ Karen Chilton: "I Wish You Love" (Forge, NY 2000), p. 265 F U

Big bands sound great when played loud, like - The "Basie Story" Roulette double CD recently reissued. - Woody Herman's First Herd, especially "The Good Earth" and "Northwest Passage" - Ellington's "Main Stem" (1942) and the classic Newport 56 Diminuendo... even earlier stuff like the "Dicty Glide" is great to hear really loud. and some Jimmy Smith stuff, like "The Champ" with those big fat chords at the end... F U

Just got the Town Hall CD. Many thanks to Chuck Nessa, and a big round of applause to the postal services in the US and the UK. Posted on June 6, received on June 10. Nuff said. F U

The CD liner notes credit the song to Duke Ellington and Irving Mills. Fernando

Hello, For the sake of completeness, the Nina Simone Sings Ellington has been recently reissued as EMI 4 73220-2 (in the UK at least, together with 6 other CDs including all the Simone recordings for Colpix) Fernando

The EMI CD (3LPs, 36 tracks, near the 80-minute mark) was indeed split in two for the "blue cover" edition by Time/Life in Spain. One of those records that should be always in stock. F U PS (edit): 38 tracks, actually. In the "blue cover" edition, CD2 is much louder than CD1 (dunno why) 1 Chega de Saudade DeMoraes, Jobim 2:00 2 Desafinado Jobim, Mendonca 2:00 3 One Note Samba Hendricks, Jobim, Mendonca 2:35 4 O Pato Silva, Teixeira 1:59 5 Bolinha de Papel Pereira 1:16 6 O Amor Em Paz DeMoraes, Jobim 2:25 7 Trêvo de 4 Folhas Dixon, Woods 1:22 8 O Barquinho Boscoli, Menescal 2:30 9 Lobo Bobo Bôscoli, Lyra 1:20 10 Bim Bom Gilberto 1:12 11 Hô-Bá-Lá-Lá Gilberto 2:14 12 Aos Pés da Cryz DaZilda, Pinto 11:31 13 É Luxo Só Barroso, Peixoto 1:55 14 Outra Vez Jobim 1:49 15 Coisa Mais Linda DeMoraes, Lyra 2:51 16 Este Seu Olhar Jobim 2:15 17 Trenzinho (Trem de Ferro) Maia 1:47 18 Brigas, Nunca Mais DeMoraes, Jobim 2:05 19 Saudade Fez Um Samba Bôscoli, Lyra 1:50 20 Amor Certinho Guimaraes 1:50 21 Insensatez DeMoraes, Jobim 2:25 22 Rosa Morena Caymmi 2:02 23 Morena Boca de Ouro Barroso 1:55 24 Maria Ninguem Lyra 2:20 25 A Primeira Vez Bide, Marcal 1:52 26 Presente de Natal Noronha 1:52 27 Samba de Minha Terra Caymmi 2:19 28 Saudade da Bahia Caymmi 2:15 29 Corcovado (Quiet Nights of Quiet Stars) Jobim 1:57 30 Só Em Teus Braços Jobim 1:45 31 Meditation (Meditação) Gimbel, Jobim, Mendonca 1:43 32 Você E Eu DeMoraes, Lyra 2:30 33 Doralice Almeida, Caymmi 1:25 34 Discussão Jobim, Mendonca 1:48 35 Se É Tarde Me Perdoa Bôscoli, Lyra 1:44 36 Un Abraço No Bonfá Gilberto 1:35 37 Manha de Carnaval Bonfa, Maria 2:31 38 Medley: O Nosso Amor/A Felicidade DeMoraes, Jobim 3:07

I have taken part in discussions about this elsewhere, and the picture I'm getting, IMHO is that the legal implications are too difficult to clear up and thus litigation is not an easy option, either because the labels cannot afford it, or because (the majors) can take the possible losses due to the dodgers, who sometimes are well-known people, not too difficult to reach. The only solution seems to take a personal stand against certain labels (or in the case of JSP, certain releases, which would required some sort of informed black list), and sometimes that's even more difficult when they release material not readily available. The other one is as easy as when someone reviews a Lonehill Jazz CD stating that they contain "collectors' items on CD for the first time ever" and it is not true, do say so. Reading Allen Lowe's post, the other question is that, if you enter this fight and try to uncover the dodgy labels, who you're fighting for? The musicians or the owners of the masters, who sometimes couldn't care less? (there are plenty of examples, but Woody Herman-Blowin' Up A Storm by Sony/Legacy is up there with the worst) My two cents. F U PS In all honesty, when I got my copy of the Early Mingus CD by Definitive, I didn't even know about the Uptown CD (was in Spain or UK then) PPS I agree with what "neveronasunday" said about the "hollier than thou" attitude.

Very true, and almost everyone who met Charlie Christian says that he was very laid-back. The only mention I know about him being a leader is that he was planning to have a combo with Cootie Williams after he recovered from TB (which he never did, sadly). Another thing is that I don't think BG would be ready to get rid of CC. By the time he got him in the Sextet and then Septet, BG's popularity as a big band leader was not so good (he had already lost Gene Krupa, Harry James and Teddy Wilson - and Glenn Miller was on the rise) and the combo with CC was very popular. Besides, CC was contributing many riffs and tunes (btw, according to Peter Broadbent's bio of CC, Flying Home may have been written by Leslie Sheffield of Oklahoma City) and he was the one of the few people BG kept on salary when he disbanded for a few months in 1940. It's just speculation, but all in all it seems very likely that neither Hammond nor Goodman would have let CC go easily. F U

Hi Clem, With my original surname, the options are F U or F O. Thanks for the welcome! Fer

Hi Clementine, With all due respect, that was definitely NOT a bogus question. I agree with what Mike said about the discography forum not being the place to discuss this. Statement of the obvious, but there's a difference between saying what you said, and actually using some of your time to actually check the music and get to a conclusion. I never suggested LoneHill had dug up something new. I was trying to establish where it came from. About what Chuck Nessa (hello there) suggested, IMO I suspect there is a strong chance that the LoneHills have lifted the shorter version from the Jazz Workshop-Arrangers CD and the longer one from the BMG-Spain issue of McKusick's Workshop. Easier and quicker, but I'd be glad to be proved wrong. F U PS Since I'm a "newbie" here, FYI and for the record, I completely sympathise with musicians and people like Cuscuna, Nessa, et al. I cannot begin to imagine what it feels like to be ripped off your hard work. I actually think it is too serious a matter to dispatch it with witty comments, loud chest-beating, fingerpointing and ideas like "please, don't buy cheap CDs available in the nearest shop."

Many thanks, Mike. That's what I thought. I listened to both versions at the same time, and although it might well be a completely notated piece (no improvisations), everything sounds exactly the same. You're right, and since I don't know the timing of the version on the original LP, I cannot say for which issue was the last bit edited off. In any case, it seems that someone has been putting things together rather hastily (which can happen to any label, anyway), and I don't have time to go further with this (basically, checking when was the first time the long version was issued, which I suspect it's the BMG-Spain CD) As for the false advertising, the label on "Hal McKusick - The Complete Barry Galbraith, Milt Hinton and Osie Johnson Recordings" (LoneHill LHJ10176) says "Collectors' Items on CD for the First Time Ever". The fact is that everything in there has been previouly released on CD in Hal McKusick - Jazz At The Academy (Universal UCCC-9064, Japan 2003) Hal McKusick - The Jazz Workshop (RCA/BMG 74321913522, Spain 2001) Hal McKusick - East Coast Jazz/8 (Fresh Sound FSR-CD 41, Spain 1989) Hal McKusick Octet - In A Twentieth-Century Drawing Room (RCA/BMG 74321125842, Spain 1996) Thanks again, F U

Hello Diego, glad to see you here and muchas gracias for the tip. Hadn't had the chance to really check the McKusick Workshop CD (BMG Spain 74321913522). I just did, and the fact is the only difference between the shorter and longer versions of TDJBWH is that the longer one has an "extra" section at the end, a reprise of the lively first section of the piece, which has been edited off in the shorter one. I just compared the shorter TDJBWH in LoneHill LHJ 10177 (#15) with the longer one in McKusick's Jazz Workshop (#7) and they are exactly the same, except that the longer one lags behind (less than a second after 7 minutes, that might due to the transfers) and of course, there is an "extra" section at the end of the longer one. The version on "Jazz Workshop - The Arrangers" (BMG Germany ND86471) is the shorter one, the same as the one in LoneHill (#15), although it also seems to lag behind. So no alternate take, apparently. For the sake of completeness, I'd be grateful if anyone could check whether the discographies show any alternate take at all (I don't have any discography at hand). Thanks in advance and all the best, F U (Edited to add that I have also checked that the longer versions in LoneHill (#18) and BMG Spain (#7) are exactly the same, with some lagging behind. Could this be due to the CD players I'm using simultaneously?)

Hello everyone, The LoneHill CD "George Russell - The Complete Bluebird Recordings" includes his Jazz Workshop + a session from Hal McKusick's Jazz Workshop. From the latter, there is an alternate take of "The Day John Brown Was Hanged". Does anyone know about any previous issue (LP, CD or whatever) including the alt. take of "The Day John Brown Was Hanged"? I'm asking because LoneHill are not known for unearthing rare material (to put it mildly) I have not found a Japanese edition of McKusick's "Jazz Workshop". The RCA/BMG CD (published in Spain) does not have an alternate take. BMG France have reissued the Russell Workshop with alt. takes, but I have not been able to found a BMG France reissue of the McKusick Workshop. The compilation "The RCA Victor Jazz Workshop - The Arrangers" (RCA Victor ND 86471) does not have the alt. take either. Any help will be most welcome. F U

We were talking about this in the Tomajazz! Forum recently. You can see the cover and tune titles there. Check out http://www.plosin.com/milesAhead/BirdDisco.aspx too for tunes and dates (thanks to EKE BBB for the tip). I would definitely go for the Masters Of Jazz. Not so unusual in eBay. F U

Re: Eddie Costa, these you can get on CD: the Jubilee (Fresh Sounds), the Dot (MCA Japan, reissued last May), the Coral (Verve/Universal). The Savoy with John Mehegan is fairly easy to get in eBay. The Newport half was also issued backed with a George Wallington set in vinyl. As far as I know, Universal do not intend to reissue any material with Costa in it (around 30 LPs not in CD), and it would be interesting, since they have the largest amount of music recorded by him, either as leader or sideman (some of his stuff with Farlow is more appealing than, say, the trio date for Jubilee). The problem with Costa is that he's featured in more than 140 albums (there's still much digging to do), and he managed to add some spice to most things he did, from his solos on piano to vibes obbligatti with Chris Connor or xylophone runs with Al Caiola, and many of those LPs seem that will never be reissued... unless European law does not change before 2012 and some label gives us a surprise. Fernando