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Agree totally. But what can I say - I just love badly played jazz...

This one is very nice ideed - in general, I prefer Braxton in duo/trio settings, solo also (don't care too much for his quartet (any quartet) or larger group performances - they are too cluttered and dense, IMO) and in more blowing (as opposed to "composed") mood. Thus, the discs that Gary listed are among my favorite Braxton works.

...which is good, but much less interesting than the other ones be Walt Dickerson IMO (e.g. his absolutelz mesmerizing duos with Richard Davis on SteepleChase). I am not too familiar with Tchicai's works, but I did see him live with New York Art Quartet (Tchicai-Rudd-Graves-Workman + Amiri Baraka) four years ago, and they were simply burning.

I can't wait to hear this one. I don't know when I would be able to play it, though. Perhaps some long car ride when no one is around to be bothered. Track one will clear traffic from the road! You will be very alone. I will have to make photos of Swiss roads - lakes, moiuntains, sunflower fields, herds of cows, and all that - Broetzmann/Eneidi seems just a perfect soundtrack for a long ride (well, till first police car, from my experience). Nice to see such an interest in Broetzmann's ouevre on this board - a further goes to show that it's not just these Funny Rat freaks who listen to this stuff... err.... wait a minute...

Do they have a website? Is there a forum there? - I could post a couple of recommendations there. http://www.musicaconcarne.com/ I was more hoping for a St. Loius elementary school website.

Do they have a website? Is there a forum there? - I could post a couple of recommendations there.

Very much so, IMO! Together with Walt Dickerson (just why the fuck isn't the man recording anymore?!?! I know that he is still fairly active as performer and musician in Philly (correct, Alan?)) Jamal might be my favorite vibist.

Looking forward to hearing the Braxton standards set. The Braxton/Cyrille sounded OK on a first listen (I have only VOl. I, though), but did not grab me too much. Braxton sounded a bit tired to me. Gotta listen to it more. ----------------------------------------------------------- SOme nice new goodies from Intakt, including: Guy-Crispell-Lytton Trio and Hans Koch / Martin Schütz / Fredy Studer Trio, which our friend ubu raved so much about. I hope INTAKT will consider me deserving receiving these releases (they didn't send me the second volume of Braxton/Cyrille, for example), since I am really looing forwar to hearing both of them, particulalrly after seeing Koch live (see ubu's and my raves somewhere above). Deatils HERE.

Hey you moldy fig! Didn't you know that Brötzelmeister has been accepted as an old-fashioned mainstream jazz musician thirty years ago? Even this Hawkins guy stole a lot of Brötzmann tricks!

When we're listening to recordings, we're all looking in the rearview mirror... Bravo, Hans!

You are right of course, ubu - it's Enja Horst Webser, of course. What surprises me about both Enjas is how stylistically close they remained after the split - this slighly out (well, sometimes a bit more than slightly - Cecil with IIO, for example), slightly ethno-jazzish, some exotic female singers... Winkelmann is definitely more active though. OK, so looks lke Takase is skippable. I have her duo CD with Rudi Mahall reéeased last year on Leo, but don't remmeber it too well.

New release on Enja Winckelmann (the label seems to have woken up finally): Aki Takase Plays Fats Waller Just look at the rocking combo: Aki Takase (p); Eugene Chadbourne - (voc, banjo,git); Rudi Mahall (bcl) Nils Wogram (tb); Thomas Heberer (tp) Paul Lovens - (dr) Should be interesting. http://jazzrecords.com/enja/9152.htm

Tony, I udnerstand where your proposal is coming form, but I think The Rat is serving the purpose just fine. If you refer to The Rat being frequented by a close group of 5-6-7 people, I very much doubt it would have attracted more wide attention has it been called "The Avant-Garde Thread" or whatever. Most of the posters at Organissimo make a conscious choise of not being interested in the music beyond 60s bop too much - nothing bad about that; and having no interest in "avant-garde" (what the fuck does it mean now, anyway?), they don't discuss it - and setting up a special forum will not help much if there is no interest. And actually, I do like having it all in the one thread - there are a lot of circularly recurring subjects (how many times have we brouhgt up Brötzmann by now?!) and a lot of logical links - one thinkg awakes another which in turn leads to some other unexpected turn in discussion - may be at some point coming back to the original subject, may be not - but I don't have any problem following the twisted logics of the thread, and I do beleive it gets overall more informative this way, rather than if it were broken up into more confining and narrow topics. And I just love Funny Rat title.

My only exposure to Dorge, is his beautiful trio disc with Khan Jamal and mighty Johnny Dyani called Three (also on SteepleChase). Joyful tuneful music with a lot of love.

Another recent example of Hans getting "serious" is his wonderful duo with pianist Simon Navatov called Chat Room (on Leo). Nabatov, who started as a pretty voluble post-bop virtuoso type of guy, has developed ini a powerful (and more economical) player with diverse ideas, and Bennink is an excellent partner here - listening attentively, and responding in a supportive but also in a provicative way. Excellent reording quality, so you heare all the univderse of sounds (and SOUNDS and sounds) that Bennink creates. Overall, a pretty mellow and introspective affair. Expanded liner notes form the Leo website:

These are the ones!

He-he, this is my favorite CD of 2004 so far (Fly, Fly, Fly would be second most favorite, perhaps). Electronic manipulations add additional dimension to the music, making it even more surprising and incredibly more rich. I listened to this disc 3-4 times so far, and will need to listen more - there is a lot to digest. As soon as I do, I will post a review here.

Er, really? I have a reissue from that period in the 1990s when a German label put all the ESP catalogue back in print. It sounds better than Machine Gun but that's about all I can say in its favour. Nate, you are referring to ZYX reissues - thjis was the first wave of CD ESP reissues, and they do not sound good. Calibre is (was?) a Dutch company, and their reissues (from late 90s - early 00s) sound excellent. Calibre version of Spiritual Unity sounds really terific.

Actually all recent reissues sound good - SPiritual Unity by Dutch label Calibre sounds great, hatHut did a gret job with the Paris peformance and the Copenhagen tapes relesed on Ayler sond quite good as well. I assume all the bonus tracks imaginable are in the Revenant box. There porbably won't be much left.

Hve been postponing buying this one in hope to identify the best-sounding CD copy. Which one do you have (I asumethere are at least 5 of them around), and how does it sound?

Friends, I've been listening to this disc for a couple of days now, and can wholeheartedly recommend it: Paul Plimley / Lisle Ellis / Donald Robinson "Density of the Lovestruck Demons" (Music & Arts, 1995) My first exposure to Plimley, and what a nice surprise! Piano trio. Plimley has a pretty original style - free for sure, but very warm, bluesy... very jazz. Pretty original style - the closest analog I could think of is von Schlippenbach (also highly percussive style, and a bit of a "paradoxal" appraoch as if he is constantly questioning himself - and then gives answers that even he himself hadn't expected), but I think Plimley has more warmth and melody (but equally virtuosic). Ellis and Robinson are a perfect rythm team - Robinson is an old-time swinger, but a very free one - anything can happen at any time (but it will always sound good) - and very much focused on making his partners sound good. Ellis is absolutely brilliant, with powerful round sound jumping betweeen piano and drums - and also very and sync with other two players. YOu can ghear immidiately that the trio has been playing together for some time - and they like it. Lovely, lovely music. Couple of Ornette's tunes, btw... overall, the whole disc has this early Ornett-ish fill - cheerful, suprising, concise (all compositions are pretty short) and with a bit of a gang-ho attitude. There are some sound RA samples on the M & A website: http://musicandarts.com/CD4906j.html Got my copy for $7 at themusicresource.com - they might still have more. More Plimley recommendations, anyone? EDIT: and btw, I was listening to Plimley right after Cecil's Willisau concert - with initial apprehension that listenig to any pianist after that would be just unfair to the musician - well, Plimles still somehow pulled it off.

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Incidentally, last Sunday I placed an order at indiejazz.com, including this one. $30! - it's better be good!

And you call Fear Factory album covers scary!?

Don't have all Ayler, so won't be able to list the essential 5. Spiritual Unity is the favorite one of those I have.