dave9199 Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 I don't know anything about Shorty Rogers, but I've been listening to The Monkees lately & noticed his name on their albums as well as on this board. Anyone know the story of how he went from jazz to arranging songs for The Monkees? Quote
Stereojack Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 In the 1960's Shorty got many arranging gigs for pop sessions when horns were used. Shorty was a journeyman arranger, and skillful enough to provide what was needed in a number of non-jazz settings. jack Quote
JSngry Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 AMG also show arranging dates for Bobby Darin, Herb Albert & the Tiajuana Brass, Harvey Mandel, Dino, Desi, & Billy, Rich Little(!), Bobbie Gentry, and any number of soundtracks. Like Mr. Jack said, the guy was involved in the L.A. studio scene, and that meant that "work is work", if you know what I mean. Lots of the "West Coast" players of the 50s ended up doing the studio thing. It was a good living, and it left time for playing jazz "on the side" if they wanted. Bud Shank & Barney Kessell are two notable examples of players who finally gave up the studio work to play jazz exclusively, but for every one or two of them, there were plenty more who went in and hardly ever came back out, at least until the studio work slowed down around the early/mid 90s. Quote
Jim R Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 Barney Kessell In case you're ever going to do a , you should remember that it's "Kessel", not "Kessell". Couldn't resist that one. Quote
Herb Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 Most of the Monkees guitar solos were done by jazz guitarist Tommy Tedesco. He lived and died in the LA recording scene, earning himself the title as "the most recorded artist" before he died in 1997. Tommy called a lot of the musicians in, and that was probably the tie in to Shorty. Quote
AfricaBrass Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 Most of the Monkees guitar solos were done by jazz guitarist Tommy Tedesco. He lived and died in the LA recording scene, earning himself the title as "the most recorded artist" before he died in 1997. Tommy called a lot of the musicians in, and that was probably the tie in to Shorty. I used to enjoy his monthly column in Guitar Player magazine about his various sessions. I also remember seeing him in the band of TV's The Gong Show. Quote
Jim R Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 I also remember seeing him in the band of TV's The Gong Show. Oh man, that's a great set-up... but I already did a joke in this thread. Quote
Ron S Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 Wait--is this a thread about arranging for THE MONKEES??? Quote
Guest ariceffron Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 what exactly was the GONG show??? Quote
JSngry Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 what exactly was the GONG show??? Oh MAN...... Nothing personal;, dude, but if you don't know the Gong Show.... You evere see Confessions of a Dangerous Mind? THAT cat. Sorta. And more. Quote
JSngry Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 Barney Kessell In case you're ever going to do a , you should remember that it's "Kessel", not "Kessell". Couldn't resist that one. Sorry Gramps , but I'm of the age where Barney Goggle was pretty much gone, replaced on the daily basis by Snuffy Smith. Fitty Pointz if you can recall Mr. & Mrs. Smith's infant son's name without Goggling! Quote
Jim R Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 Sorry Gramps , but I'm of the age where Barney Goggle was pretty much gone, replaced on the daily basis by Snuffy Smith. Gotta admit- I only knew the name "Barney Google" from hearing about him (maybe from my dad... I don't remember now). I don't even remember Snuffy. I was into Charlie Brown. Fitty Pointz if you can recall Mr. & Mrs. Smith's infant son's name without Goggling! Hmm... I dunno... but for Fitty Pointz I'll guess. Cap'n John? Jedediah? Stuff? Carson? Kate? (hey, you never know), Jimmy? Ozzie? George (Harmonica)? Johnny? Johnny (Hammond)? Marvin (Smitty)? Onterrio? I think I'm getting colder... Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 what exactly was the GONG show??? Quote
JSngry Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 Hmm... I dunno... but for Fitty Pointz I'll guess. Cap'n John? Jedediah? Stuff? Carson? Kate? (hey, you never know), Jimmy? Ozzie? George (Harmonica)? Johnny? Johnny (Hammond)? Marvin (Smitty)? Onterrio? I think I'm getting colder... Tater. The boy's name was Tater. Quote
Ron S Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 This being a (purportedly) music-based Bulletin Board, we should pay homage here to the popular song inspired by the first famous Google (and note how each 4-line chorus implies a somewhat kinky lifestyle): BARNEY GOOGLE by Rose, De Beck, & Con Conrad. as sung by Billy Jones & Ernest Hare, Thomas & West. Who's the most important man this country ever knew? Do you know what politician I have reference to? Well, it isn't Mr. Bryan, and it isn't Mr. Hughes. I've got a hunch that to that bunch I'm going to introduce: (Again you're wrong and to this throng I'm going to Introduce:) Barney Google, with the goo-goo-goo-ga-ly eyes. Barney Google bet his horse would win the prize. When the horses ran that day, Spark Plug ran the other way. Barney Google, with the goo-goo-goo-ga-ly eyes. Barney Google, with the goo-goo-goo-ga-ly eyes. Barney Google had a wife three times his size She stood Barney for divorce Now he's living with his horse Who's the greatest lover that this country ever knew? And who's the man that Valentino takes his hat off to? No, it isn't Douglas Fairbanks that the ladies rave about. When he arrives, who makes the wives chase all their husbands out? Why, it's Barney Google, with the goo-goo-goo-ga-ly eyes. Barney Google is the guy who never buys. Women take him out to dine, then he steals the waiter's dime. Barney Google, with the goo-goo-goo-ga-ly eyes. Barney Google, with the goo-goo-goo-ga-ly eyes. Barney Google is the luckiest of guys. If he fell in to the mud, he'd come up with a diamond stud. Barney Google with the goo-goo-goo-ga-ly eyes. Who's the greatest fire chief this country ever saw? Who's the man who loves to hear the blazing buildings roar? Anytime the house is burning, and the flames leap all about, Say, tell me do, who goes, "kerchoo!" and puts the fire out? Barney Google, with the goo-goo-goo-ga-ly eyes. Barney Google, thought his horse could win the prize. He got odds of ten to eight; Spark Plug came in three days late. Barney Google, with the goo-goo-goo-ga-ly eyes. Barney Google, with the goo-goo-goo-ga-ly eyes. Barney Google tried to enter paradise. When Saint Peter saw his face, he said, "Go to the other place". Barney Google, with the goo-goo-goo-ga-ly eyes. Quote
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