Lazaro Vega Posted January 11, 2006 Report Posted January 11, 2006 Ornette Coleman - Rock The Clock (Fruit Tree 857) Scheduled for re-issue Jan 17 — Berlin radio broadcast from Nov. 5, 1971 — with Charlie Haden (bass), Dewey Redman (tenor), and Ed Blackwell (drums) Read in the Peter Niklas Wilson "Ornette Coleman, His Life and Music" book that previous issues were not the broadcast tape but an amature recording of the broadcast, though he does say it is an interesting document for including much material from the "Crisis"lp, the only known recording of "Who Do You Work For?" and a great version of Charlie Haden's "Song For Che." Haven't heard it. Comments, suggestions? Wish Ornette would bring out a disc of his current working band. The only other document of his double bass band was from way back, a live recording in Italy when the band had Charlie Haden and David Izenzon which, again according to Wilson and not my own listening, is not well balanced between the parts. The current version of the two bass band, which played a marvellous concert in Ann Arbor, was well balanced in that regard. Man is Ornette profound in that Dan Morganstern interview from 1965. "It has gotten so that in your relationships to every system that has some sort of power, you have to pay to become part of that power, just in order to do what you want to do," he continued. "This doesn't build a better world, but it does build more security for the power. Power makes purpose secondary..." He goes on to explain how he seeks to put the human being in the dominant role. Quote
ep1str0phy Posted January 11, 2006 Report Posted January 11, 2006 Ornette Coleman - Rock The Clock (Fruit Tree 857) Scheduled for re-issue Jan 17 — Berlin radio broadcast from Nov. 5, 1971 — with Charlie Haden (bass), Dewey Redman (tenor), and Ed Blackwell (drums) Read in the Peter Niklas Wilson "Ornette Coleman, His Life and Music" book that previous issues were not the broadcast tape but an amature recording of the broadcast, though he does say it is an interesting document for including much material from the "Crisis"lp, the only known recording of "Who Do You Work For?" and a great version of Charlie Haden's "Song For Che." Haven't heard it. Comments, suggestions? Wish Ornette would bring out a disc of his current working band. The only other document of his double bass band was from way back, a live recording in Italy when the band had Charlie Haden and David Izenzon which, again according to Wilson and not my own listening, is not well balanced between the parts. The current version of the two bass band, which played a marvellous concert in Ann Arbor, was well balanced in that regard. Man is Ornette profound in that Dan Morganstern interview from 1965. "It has gotten so that in your relationships to every system that has some sort of power, you have to pay to become part of that power, just in order to do what you want to do," he continued. "This doesn't build a better world, but it does build more security for the power. Power makes purpose secondary..." He goes on to explain how he seeks to put the human being in the dominant role. If I'm not mistaken, (some, if not all of) that Haden/Izenzon recording made it on to the recent "Milano" bootleg, although the sound is probably atrocious. At least some portion of this recording has been released on "Languages," an awfully muddy-sounding bootleg that nonetheless boasts some of the best, most vigorous ensemble work I've heard out of a post-trio Ornette combo. A lot of people may disagree... but Ornette's alto work is in prime form. It's actually possible to hear the basses, and Izenzon is frequently out front. The problem isn't the balance; the recording quality has substantially diminished the detail--and, for that matter, much of the nuance--of the group improv. Blackwell, unfortunately, is all snare and cymbals; for the better part of the performance, he sounds quite the amorphous mass. A terrific shame, too, because everyone seems to be on fire... I just love late 60's/70's Ornette. I received the Wilson book as a birthday present when I was much younger--it's probably the only reason I knew to pick up "The Empty Foxhole." Not as thorough as the Litweiler book, but interesting still. I've found myself disagreeing with a lot of the reviews, but it offers (to my knowledge) the only remotely comprehensive critical discography (of Ornette) around. Ornette's interviews are a wellspring of profundities. Although, I'm bothered by just how disturbed and misanthropic a lot of his later statements sound. It's a miracle the man is still making music. Quote
7/4 Posted January 11, 2006 Report Posted January 11, 2006 Wish Ornette would bring out a disc of his current working band. They're planning on it. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted January 11, 2006 Report Posted January 11, 2006 Wish Ornette would bring out a disc of his current working band. They're planning on it. Source?? Quote
7/4 Posted January 11, 2006 Report Posted January 11, 2006 (edited) Wish Ornette would bring out a disc of his current working band. They're planning on it. Source?? Dec 2005 Downbeat: However, he can be heard live on a new album set for release in early 2006, Live at Carnegie Hall, 2003. Edited January 11, 2006 by 7/4 Quote
.:.impossible Posted January 11, 2006 Report Posted January 11, 2006 I would love to find a recording of the band from the Newport Festival two summers back. They had a vast sound. Quote
WD45 Posted January 12, 2006 Report Posted January 12, 2006 Wish Ornette would bring out a disc of his current working band. They're planning on it. Source?? Tony Falanga, the bass player told me that as well, in the company of Denardo. "It's in the can, waiting to be released" he said. Release it then! Quote
ep1str0phy Posted January 12, 2006 Report Posted January 12, 2006 Wish Ornette would bring out a disc of his current working band. They're planning on it. Source?? Tony Falanga, the bass player told me that as well, in the company of Denardo. "It's in the can, waiting to be released" he said. Release it then! Wait--studio or live album? Quote
WD45 Posted January 12, 2006 Report Posted January 12, 2006 Wish Ornette would bring out a disc of his current working band. They're planning on it. Source?? Tony Falanga, the bass player told me that as well, in the company of Denardo. "It's in the can, waiting to be released" he said. Release it then! Wait--studio or live album? He didn't say. Hmm... Quote
John L Posted January 12, 2006 Report Posted January 12, 2006 There is a pretty good sounding boot from this 1971 tour from Belgrade. They have been planning a new Ornette studio album for some time now. Two years in a row, there was even an album title in the "upcoming jazz releases" list. But alas... Quote
Lazaro Vega Posted January 12, 2006 Author Report Posted January 12, 2006 John L, gotta line on that boot? Quote
ep1str0phy Posted January 12, 2006 Report Posted January 12, 2006 There is a pretty good sounding boot from this 1971 tour from Belgrade. They have been planning a new Ornette studio album for some time now. Two years in a row, there was even an album title in the "upcoming jazz releases" list. But alas... Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if Harmolodic is still with Verve? Quote
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