Durium Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 I bought myself the Raymond Scott Secret 7 CD released on Basta ( 309106), an album full of surprises. One of the musicians is Toots Thielemans, who recorded with Scott in the early 1960s. He recognized the other 8 ( ! ) musicians, but this "secret" to be found behind a link doens't work. Did anyone has ideas about the line-up of this Secret 7 group? More info in my web log Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fer Urbina Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 (edited) Did anyone has ideas about the line-up of this Secret 7 group? Surprise is the word indeed: Harry Edison - trumpet Sam 'The Man' Taylor - tenor sax Toots Thielemans - harmonica Eddie Costa - piano (5 tracks) and vibes (7 tracks) Wild Bill Davis - organ Kenny Burrell - guitar Milt Hinton - bass Elvin Jones - drums Dorothy Collins - vocals (2 tracks) Recorded in January 1960. F Edited May 2, 2006 by Fer Urbina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durium Posted May 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 Did anyone has ideas about the line-up of this Secret 7 group? Surprise is the word indeed: Harry Edison - trumpet Sam 'The Man' Taylor - tenor sax Toots Thielemans - harmonica Eddie Costa - piano (5 tracks) and vibes (7 tracks) Wild Bill Davis - organ Kenny Burrell - guitar Milt Hinton - bass Elvin Jones - drums Dorothy Collins - vocals (2 tracks) Recorded in January 1960. F Thanks !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 Tried (and failed) to stir up some interest in this one a while back: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...l=raymond+scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fer Urbina Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Tried (and failed) to stir up some interest in this one a while back: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...l=raymond+scott Haven't listened to the album lately, but I guess that this is too surreal. Someone who knew Scott called him "the leader that everybody hated" for his exacting arrangements (not caring for confortable keys, etc). Creative or imaginative as this music may be, it also seems a bit of a waste for such a line-up. And there's a fine line between hilarious and irritating in Dorothy Collins' sped-up vocals. F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durium Posted May 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Someone who knew Scott called him "the leader that everybody hated" for his exacting arrangements (not caring for confortable keys, etc). Creative or imaginative as this music may be, it also seems a bit of a waste for such a line-up. I guess you're right Fer .... some hate it and some love it. Keepswinging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceH Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Tried (and failed) to stir up some interest in this one a while back: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...l=raymond+scott Hey, you got me to buy it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durium Posted May 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 (edited) Hey, you got me to buy it! If you don't like it you always can use it as a beer mat !! Keep swinging Edited May 3, 2006 by Durium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceH Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Hey, you got me to buy it! If you don't like it you always can use it as a beer mat !! Keep swinging No, I like it fine. Played it many a time since then. Not as often as the average Hank Mobley album, mind you, but often enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Tried (and failed) to stir up some interest in this one a while back: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...l=raymond+scott Hey, you got me to buy it! Cool! Glad somebody noticed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fer Urbina Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Someone who knew Scott called him "the leader that everybody hated" for his exacting arrangements (not caring for confortable keys, etc). Creative or imaginative as this music may be, it also seems a bit of a waste for such a line-up. I guess you're right Fer .... some hate it and some love it. Just in case, I meant hated "by musicians" because apparently his music was difficult and as a leader he was a very demanding taskmaster. Still, a fascinating and overlooked character. F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreilly Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 Someone who knew Scott called him "the leader that everybody hated" for his exacting arrangements (not caring for confortable keys, etc). Creative or imaginative as this music may be, it also seems a bit of a waste for such a line-up. I guess you're right Fer .... some hate it and some love it. Just in case, I meant hated "by musicians" because apparently his music was difficult and as a leader he was a very demanding taskmaster. Still, a fascinating and overlooked character. F I've had his "Reckless Nights and Turkish Twilights" for a couple years now. Scott's recordings are devoid of improvisation of any sort, so in that respect they're closer to a classical recording than to "jazz". Reckless Nights is like the soundtrack to your childhood if you grew up on Bugs Bunny cartoons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 Tried (and failed) to stir up some interest in this one a while back: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...l=raymond+scott Hey, you got me to buy it! Cool! Glad somebody noticed. Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durium Posted May 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 I guess you all know the Basta reissues of Raymond Scott and the great job Gert-Jan Blom and his Beau Hunks is doing? Keep swinging Durium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 Tried (and failed) to stir up some interest in this one a while back: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...l=raymond+scott Hey, you got me to buy it! Cool! Glad somebody noticed. Me too. Glad somebody else noticed! How did you like it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 Didn't change my life. On the other hand the combination of musicians, arrangements & individual solos make it worthwhile for me. The vocals are an acquired taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 Yeah, it's definitely not life-changing music. And it's not really "jazz as we know it". But it is some great jazz players bringing their thing to some very interesting and idiosyncratic music, and on those terms, I think it's a good listen. Definitely not the kind of thing that you can hear just anywhere, if you know what I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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