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Guest youmustbe
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Paul did that a lot...so did Hodges...Iwas told how at Basin Street East in the late 50's, Hodges fell asleep during a tune and keeled over unto the front row table!

Yeah, don't tell anybody, but it was BORING playing same tunes night after night after night after night after night after night after night after night after night...Duke or no Duke.

Funny, no one got bored in Basie's band? Could it be that Bill was hipper than Duke? But then again that would upset the whole Religion which so many people in Jazz , including on this board have vested in, that Duke was 'serious' an 'artist' while Basie was just an entertainer. Like Satin Doll was 'profound' but Silk Stockings was a pop tune, fluff.

BTW When I was in the Army in Fort Lewis, I used to go to see Belle Star at this Burlesque house, in Seattle. If you sat in the side loge, you could actually see her twat...she wouldn't show it for the main seats...different time. Anyway the pit band was an old lady on upright piano and a couple of old guys on drums and trumpet. they played mostly Duke's stuff for the stripper, You name it, Caravan, Doll, Sophisticated....I don't know what the meaning of it was, but Duke sure reached a lot of people!

Guest youmustbe
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I heard live both Duke and Basie in 60's. One difference...Duke's audience was predominately white, Basie's at Birdland was predominately black. The 'players' of that era would come out to see Bill. Stockings or Li'l Darlin' would 'send' them as they used to say. It was the 'pimp' music of that time.

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Absilutely correct!!! BTW Is that the Birdland photo from Bill Crow?

Absilutely correct!!!

I saw one of Duke's last performances. He was like a lion!

Gonsalves was drinking like a fish ( he may have been in great pain from his illness ), and he played most of the set on his knees!

When he did his ballad thing while walking up to ladies in the audience, playing in their face, he was a lion too.

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Guest youmustbe
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Paul was terrific. I have a video, they're all on beta and don't have machine anymore, so I don't remember which one, where he solos on cotton tail and it's like 'avante garde' shit at its' finest!! if I remember, that's the one where the rhythm drpos out and he solos, really solos! but uptempo! Great!

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