My amp's buzzing

[porcy62]

Are you serious?

Yes. So the pre-amps are only useful for turntables. You need to feed the output from a pre-amp into an amp, into which all your other junk - radio, K7s, CDs etc - is also being fed.

I didn't get that feeling looking at the NAD page you referenced. I thought it did all of them.

MG

Not really, on the contrary since a 'phono stage' (or 'phono pre amp') is costly, with the advent of CD, most manufactures dropped the phono input in their product. Actually it's pretty rare find an amp with an internal phono section.

A side note, (roughly explained) we usually talk about 'preamp' and 'power amp' as separate components because the better gears split the 'pre amp' (the section in wich all the signals coming from different source CD, K7,etc are treated: volume, tone controls) and the 'power amp', (the section where the signal of the preamp get the watts to the loudspeaker) into diferrent cases.

So I have a phono preamp, a pre amp and two mono power amps, total FOUR different cases.

The Nad and the Cambridge are 'integrated amp' (in wich pre amp section and power amp section are togheter in one case). If you look for an 'integrated amp' that can handle cartdrige signal you should look in the specs if there is a real 'phono section'. Most of the integrated amps have only 'line' inputs.

[sidewinder]

Most of the integrated amps have only 'line' inputs.

Yeah, and by adding the phono stage you effectively bring up the phono input level to 'line' level as used with CD sources.

[porcy62]

Most of the integrated amps have only 'line' inputs.

Yeah, and by adding the phono stage you effectively bring up the phono input level to 'line' level as used with CD sources.

A language question: when one says 'most of something' should the verb be referred to 'most'?

'most of the guys has integrated amps' or 'most of the guys have integrated amps'?

[sidewinder]

'most of the guys have integrated amps'?

Thats the one porcy, the plural

Edited May 1, 2008 by sidewinder

[porcy62]

'most of the guys have integrated amps'?

Thats the one porcy, the plural

Thanks. In italian would be the singular.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Are you serious?

Yes. So the pre-amps are only useful for turntables. You need to feed the output from a pre-amp into an amp, into which all your other junk - radio, K7s, CDs etc - is also being fed.

I didn't get that feeling looking at the NAD page you referenced. I thought it did all of them.

MG

Not really, on the contrary since a 'phono stage' (or 'phono pre amp') is costly, with the advent of CD, most manufactures dropped the phono input in their product. Actually it's pretty rare find an amp with an internal phono section.

A side note, (roughly explained) we usually talk about 'preamp' and 'power amp' as separate components because the better gears split the 'pre amp' (the section in wich all the signals coming from different source CD, K7,etc are treated: volume, tone controls) and the 'power amp', (the section where the signal of the preamp get the watts to the loudspeaker) into diferrent cases.

So I have a phono preamp, a pre amp and two mono power amps, total FOUR different cases.

The Nad and the Cambridge are 'integrated amp' (in wich pre amp section and power amp section are togheter in one case). If you look for an 'integrated amp' that can handle cartdrige signal you should look in the specs if there is a real 'phono section'. Most of the integrated amps have only 'line' inputs.

Thanks - I see now this is a matter of quality - how well it works (and sounds), not whether it works or not.

MG