Guest youmustbe Posted March 29, 2003 Report Posted March 29, 2003 I forget who I was having such a great conversation on the 'other' board'...I've just been listening to Gould's Handel suites on the Harpisichord...Perverse! But, I love It! My favorite Keith recording by a Mile!, is his Clavichord record (you have to hear it on Vinyl, most ECM CD transfers are total crap!)...So, Gould on an over-recorded Pleyel cheapio, is fantastic...someone should remix this for DJ use, it's that hip! Comments? BTW I must have heard Ahmad Jamal play the Fender Rhodes about 300 times. Ahmad is the only one I ever heard, who could get different sounds out of it, sometimes within the same tune...like an organ, or clavichord, or acoustic, or the true deep, Fender sound. A Rhodes is NOT a Fender Rhodes, and the Suitcase model, GOD! what a Sound!!! Quote
Guest Mnytime Posted March 29, 2003 Report Posted March 29, 2003 (edited) I prefer Paul Nicholson's or Kenneth Gilbert's playing of Handel's Harpsichord Suites. With Nicholson's being my favorite. Just like I prefer Christophe Rousset (Harpsichord) or Rosalyn Tureck (Piano) for Bach's Goldberg variations or Angela Hewitt for both of Bach's books of The Well Tempered Clavier. Edited March 29, 2003 by Mnytime Quote
Joe G Posted March 29, 2003 Report Posted March 29, 2003 I haven't heard Tureck's version of the Variations. My favorite is Murray Perahia. The Gould I've heard is the one he did around 1980. I don't like at all--especially the sound quality. I heard that Glenn disliked Mozart, but I liked what he did with some of it. Quote
Guest youmustbe Posted March 30, 2003 Report Posted March 30, 2003 Gould's Handel has nothing to do with Handel. That's why I find it perverse, and interesting at same time. Gould wanted very much to be a man of his time, 'hip, if I may say. But, he couldn't break out of being a Cassical Music Interperter. He couldn't compose, so he stretched his interpertations so he could make the music his own. I don't like most of his stuff, but I find this fascinating, especially the improvisation on the First Suite, which is terrible, no idea how to improvise, and shows his problem in a nutshell. Quote
michel devos Posted March 30, 2003 Report Posted March 30, 2003 That is the main paradox with Gould : sounds like most people dislike his interpretation, but they are all fascinated...just like myself. Having said that, I really DO like his second version of the Goldberg, though my favourite one would also be Perahia's for the power and fluidity. If you have an opportunity to find Kempff's version, it is also very worthwile, although totally different from Gould's and Perahia's. Quote
Joe G Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 Interesting, Michel. I'll give Gould's variations another chance. Man, last year I went crazy and bought every Bach CD that Perahia put out. Just couldn't get enough. The Keyboard Concerto No. 1 floors me. Quote
Guest youmustbe Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 As I mentioned on the other board, the second Golberg was done at same time as video. Actually the record is in some ways the 'soundtrack' to the video. For whatever reason the video is not available, it's a shame. A great document. Quote
michel devos Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 Check Amazon...This morning, there were still 2 copies left (DVD) Quote
Guest Mnytime Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 (edited) I am a big fan of Perahia but if I had to pick the best Bach Goldberg Variation it would be the Tureck's (VAI) than the Rousset (Oiseau-Lyre). In fact Perahia's version would not even make my top 5. But to each his or her own. My top 5 Goldberg Variations would be Tureck (VAI) Rousset (Oiseau-Lyre) Andras Schiff (Penguin) Trevor Pinnock (Deutsche Grammophon) Tureck (Deutsche Grammopon) Edited March 31, 2003 by Mnytime Quote
michel devos Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 About the 1981 Goldberg, I heard Gould has used 3 different pianos for this recording : he pretended he needed the subtle sound colour of each instrument to fit his playing in different parts of the work....Film director Bruno Monsaingeon took the greatest care to mask this by adjusting the shooting angles in function of the piano being played. Now keep this in mind next time you watch the video...he really IS an artist (I mean Monsaingeon!) Still I confirm I love this version... Quote
Guest youmustbe Posted April 2, 2003 Report Posted April 2, 2003 BTW, any of you guys into Katchen's Brahms' Variations On A Theme By Paganini? White Heat!!!!! Quote
Joe G Posted June 1, 2008 Report Posted June 1, 2008 Bumping an oldie for the hell of it. Been digging into the Goldberg Variations as of late (and btw, the presence of one of our esteemed members has made it virtually impossible to search for that phrase ). A couple of months ago I picked up A State of Wonder, the reissue of both of Gould's GV recordings. The later date having been remastered from the analog source. Anyway, at this point I prefer listening to Gould's '81 recording over the Perahia by a long shot. Part of me, though, is just happy that I'm starting to get a handle on just the scope of the work itself! What's the consensus on Mnytime's recs? Quote
Joe G Posted June 4, 2008 Report Posted June 4, 2008 About the 1981 Goldberg, I heard Gould has used 3 different pianos for this recording : he pretended he needed the subtle sound colour of each instrument to fit his playing in different parts of the work....Film director Bruno Monsaingeon took the greatest care to mask this by adjusting the shooting angles in function of the piano being played. Now keep this in mind next time you watch the video...he really IS an artist (I mean Monsaingeon!) Still I confirm I love this version... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6984208089899995423 Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted June 4, 2008 Report Posted June 4, 2008 I would say GG was a great pianist/performer but not a great Bach (or any other composer) interpreter. You should take his recordings as really bright excursions. No "dis" meant. Quote
Joe G Posted June 5, 2008 Report Posted June 5, 2008 You would say that. Just kidding - that seems to be a consensus view, one I wouldn't disagree with. Who do you like for Bach interpretation? Quote
Alexander Hawkins Posted June 5, 2008 Report Posted June 5, 2008 I love Lipatti Bach...wish there was more than the one Partita! Quote
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