allright some arbitrary judgements about some

[AllenLowe]

1) Pete Brown was the greatest blues player in the history of jazz - listen to his alto solo on Unlucky Blues, behind Helen Humes. One can hear, as he plays it, the band erupting into what appears to be spontaneous acknowledgment - and I won't hold it against him that the tune was written by Leonard Feather -

2) Jonah Jones was one of the greatest swing-era trumpet players; up there with Eldridge/Shavers/Red Allen/Berigan (no not the Republican Berigan); it is not Jonah's fault that he will be forever remembered for those annoying and muted Capitol albums.

listen to his solo behind the great singer Georgia White on Papa Please from 1940 - he was also working on some of the same things, rhythmically, that Dizzy was working on, possibly from their association in the Cab Calloway band -

[mmilovan]

3) One of the most important and interesting bass players of swing era (and after) was Israel Crosby! His work with Teddy Wilson on "Blues in C# Minor" will be remembered as one of the great moments in history of jazz on that instrument.

[AllenLowe]

4) Benny Carter was a better trumpet player than he was an alto player

[AllenLowe]

5) BETTY Carter was the most annoying and mannered singer who ever lived

[AllenLowe]

6) JIMMY Carter was a rotten president -

[AllenLowe]

7) SARGENT Carter yelled at Gomer too much -

[carnivore]

Eddie Miller was one of the most individual and original tenor soloists in jazz, combining a beautiful tone, elegant manner of phrasing and his own in-built sense of swing. Much loved jn his day but pretty much ignored now. And not to be lumped in with Bud Freeman, whose playing I admire too.

[Bright Moments]

5) BETTY Carter was the most annoying and mannered singer who ever lived

ouch! i dig Betty - why do you say she was the most annoying and mannered singer who ever lived?

[aparxa]

Hotel Carter is one of the cheapest hotel in Manhattan.

If it's full, ask for room 1804

[AllenLowe]

I like Betty's early work, but found the later stuff to be just too much of everything -

just one man's opinion - I realize I am in the vast minority here -

[AllenLowe]

but listening to her is for me like having someone scrape their fingernails on a blackboard -

Edited February 19, 2009 by AllenLowe

[paul secor]

5) BETTY Carter was the most annoying and mannered singer who ever lived

This one has been done to death already. http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...l=betty++carter

[AllenLowe]

WE KILLED HER

[AllenLowe]

but I still love PETE BROWN

[Hot Ptah]

5) BETTY Carter was the most annoying and mannered singer who ever lived

Not in her live performances, 1978-82.

[AllenLowe]

well, maybe - but she was no Pete Brown -

I kid you guys not - his solo on Unlucky Blues (to get back to my original idea) is the greatest blues solo in the history of jazz-dom.

and who woulda thought it would be on a LEONARD FEATHER blues? (how can I even use those words in the SAME sentence? Feather's the guy who put the WHITE in BLUES).

Edited February 19, 2009 by AllenLowe

[papsrus]

well, maybe - but she was no Pete Brown -

I kid you guys not - his solo on Unlucky Blues (to get back to my original idea) is the greatest blues solo in the history of jazz-dom.

and who woulda thought it would be on a LEONARD FEATHER blues? (how can I even use those words in the SAME sentence? Feather's the guy who put the WHITE in BLUES).

Where might one find a copy of Pete Brown's solo on Unlucky Blues?

[carnivore]

well, maybe - but she was no Pete Brown -

I kid you guys not - his solo on Unlucky Blues (to get back to my original idea) is the greatest blues solo in the history of jazz-dom.

I love Pete's playing but - a blues solo better than Prez on 'Undercover Girl' or Bechet on 'Blood on the Moon' Or Jimmie Noone on 'Blues Jumped a Rabbit'?

[paul secor]

well, maybe - but she was no Pete Brown -

I kid you guys not - his solo on Unlucky Blues (to get back to my original idea) is the greatest blues solo in the history of jazz-dom.

I love Pete's playing but - a blues solo better than Prez on 'Undercover Girl' or Bechet on 'Blood on the Moon' Or Jimmie Noone on 'Blues Jumped a Rabbit'?

Hey, Allen's allowed to rave a bit now and then. He wouldn't be Allen if he didn't.

[AllenLowe]

to quote Sarah Palin, you betcha - it is a momentous solo - perfect phrasing, perfect tone, everything - gutbucket sound, turns a cliche into a masterpiece -

"Where might one find a copy of Pete Brown's solo on Unlucky Blues? "

right now, only on a turntable in my basement - I found it on a British LP reissue from some years ago, the MCA Blues Box, I think it's called, it's a collection of old Deccas (and probably went up in smoke in that Universal fire) - however it WILL be on my blues collection, should it ever see the light of day (which I am hoping will be in 2010) -

[AllenLowe]

yes, by the way, I am a lunatic - and damn proud of it - (don't knock rubber walls until you've tried 'em) -

[papsrus]

to quote Sarah Palin, you betcha - it is a momentous solo - perfect phrasing, perfect tone, everything - gutbucket sound, turns a cliche into a masterpiece -

"Where might one find a copy of Pete Brown's solo on Unlucky Blues? "

right now, only on a turntable in my basement - I found it on a British LP reissue from some years ago, the MCA Blues Box, I think it's called, it's a collection of old Deccas (and probably went up in smoke in that Universal fire) - however it WILL be on my blues collection, should it ever see the light of day (which I am hoping will be in 2010) -

Very good.

On a related note, you've talked about some others in this thread that I'm interested in. Specifically "the original Alfonso Trent Band; the Missourians; Charlie Johnson; Jeanette's Syncopaters; the Bennie Moten Band; the 1929-1930 Chicagoans (Benny G, Teschmacher, Bud Freeman, Joe Sullivan, Krupa)."

Moten I'm acquainted with. And Freeman, through his Mosaic single only, I believe. Are some of these likely to be included in the Blues project?

You also mentioned your Louis Armstrong CD, which didn't jump out at me during a quick pass through your website. Details? (I still have my eye on Jews in Hell, btw. Waiting for the month to clear.)

thanks

[kh1958]

I have a Pete Brown Classics CD (1942-45), but it doesn't include this track. Is this the only Classics Pete Brown issue?

[kh1958]

to quote Sarah Palin, you betcha - it is a momentous solo - perfect phrasing, perfect tone, everything - gutbucket sound, turns a cliche into a masterpiece -

"Where might one find a copy of Pete Brown's solo on Unlucky Blues? "

right now, only on a turntable in my basement - I found it on a British LP reissue from some years ago, the MCA Blues Box, I think it's called, it's a collection of old Deccas (and probably went up in smoke in that Universal fire) - however it WILL be on my blues collection, should it ever see the light of day (which I am hoping will be in 2010) -

Very good.

On a related note, you've talked about some others in this thread that I'm interested in. Specifically "the original Alfonso Trent Band; the Missourians; Charlie Johnson; Jeanette's Syncopaters; the Bennie Moten Band; the 1929-1930 Chicagoans (Benny G, Teschmacher, Bud Freeman, Joe Sullivan, Krupa)."

Moten I'm acquainted with. And Freeman, through his Mosaic single only, I believe. Are some of these likely to be included in the Blues project?

You also mentioned your Louis Armstrong CD, which didn't jump out at me during a quick pass through your website. Details? (I still have my eye on Jews in Hell, btw. Waiting for the month to clear.)

thanks

All eight sides recorded by the Alfonso Trent band are available on an Oracle CD and are very much worth seeking out.

[AllenLowe]

don't know if everything will make the final cut, but most of these will probably be on the blues reissue project (which looks like it's going to be 18 CDs) - I'm still mastering and restoring daily; will probably do 600 cuts, which will have to be reduced to approx. 450 -

"You also mentioned your Louis Armstrong CD"

I still have lotsa these - glad you mentioned the web site, as I've been having some problems with the software - if you want anything, my paypal is now alowe5@maine.rr.com - hope to correct this soon -

the Pete Brown is probably under Helen Humes' name -

Edited February 19, 2009 by AllenLowe