Music from the vaults

[Hardbopjazz]

I recently picked up a limited pressing of music of Frank Sinatra that was never release in his lifetime. Listening to it, you can understand why Frank probably didn't want this issued. Some of this music is okay, but some of the other tracks should have been left in the vault. These tunes are somewhat dull, and Sinatra doesn't always get it down perfectly. I wonder if it is greed of the estates that put something like this out, or record companies; maybe a little of both. Also I wonder if it diminishes the artist's legacy.

I another example, is the Charlie Parker Complete Verve recordings. I for one don't want to hear 10 seconds of his horn having reed problems.

Edited October 1, 2010 by Hardbopjazz

[Big Beat Steve]

As long as there are fans who (just kidding, but with a grain of truth) go about boasting that they'd "gladly buy a 10-CD set of (insert favorite artist here) brushing his teeth" there will be a market for items such as this.

[Guest Bill Barton]

As long as there are fans who (just kidding, but with a grain of truth) go about boasting that they'd "gladly buy a 10-CD set of (insert favorite artist here) brushing his teeth" there will be a market for items such as this.

Only if it's with an electric toothbrush.

[JSngry]

Not sure if this is one of the unofficial (and I can guarantee you that neither the estate nor any record company was behind this one) Sinatra outtakes collections I've had the pleasure to come across or not, but most of the ones I have are of no small musical interest. Sinatra was a true artist, and hearing how he shaped the final performance as he went along is worthy of much study for those who are interested in such things.

Having said that, such material is not so much "for collectors only" as it is "for considered evaluation only", and that is indeed a limited market.

Edit to add:

Very unique hand numbered albums that were available only as a privately circulated gift. These are hand numbered 487 of 1000.

Vol.1:

01 - Nice 'N Easy (takes 7-10)

02 - I Thought About You (unused session, 6-30-55)

03 - Weep They Will (take 2)

04 - The Same Old Song And Dance (take 2)

05 - Where Or When (takes 1 & 2)

06 - Stars Fell On Alabama (takes 1, 2 & 7)

07 - What Is This Thing Called Love (takes 1-3)

08 - I Got Plenty O' Nothin' (takes 1-5)

09 - Easy To Love (rehearsal & take 1)

10 - You And The Night And The Music (takes 4-6)

Vol. 2:

01 - What Is This Thing Called Love (take 11)

02 - The Tender Trap (takes 8 & 9)

03 - Moonlight In Vermont (take 1)

04 - Lush Life (takes 1 -3)

05 - Willow Weep For Me (takes 1-3)

06 - Gone With The Wind (alt. take)

07 - She's Funny That Way (takes 1-3)

08 - How Deep Is The Ocean (take 12)

09 - I've Got The World On A String (BBC 1953)

10 - Day In, Day out (BBC 1953)

11 - Take A Chance (1954 broadcast)

12 - I'll Be Seeing You (TV series)

13 - From This Moment On (TV series)

14 - Baby Won't You Please Come Home (TV series)

15 - I Believe (TV series)

16 - We'll Be Together Again (TV series)

17 - Lonely Town (TV series)

18 - I Love You (TV series)

Yes, I have copies of both of these, and yes, I enjoy both (for the reasons stated above). But they are definitely bootlegs, definitely rare as hell, and definitely not of "general interest" in either content or intent.

[Hardbopjazz]

I didn't know these were bootlegs. I boought them online and didn't think about these being bootlegs.

[JSngry]

Actually, very rare & highly sought after bootlegs. So if you don't like what you got, I'm sure you can recoup your investment, if not possibly turn a profit.

[Hardbopjazz]

I do want them, but knowing they are bootlegs explains how they were floating out there. The record company and estate had no say in their release.