JETman Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 I dunno. My vote would be for "Hot Dog." Zeppelin or Donaldson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardbopjazz Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) It would be interesting to hear, but I've heard the material, and you can't hear too much of anything, really. I have a very high tolerance for homemade tapes and such, but this one is damn near unlistenable. You can hear the lines (more or less), but the tones all sound the same, which is to say, one prolonged GRGGRGRHKNWPCLQGRGGRGRHKNWPCLQGRGGRGRHKNWPCLQGRGGRGRHKNWPCLQ Not a vowel to be had. Too bad, really. Sort of like Joe Btfsplk, no vowels in his sir name. My copy of this, albeit not great, is listenable, at least to me. Since this is a private recording I can offer it to anyone that wants to hear it. These are the links Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4 Part 5 Edited March 3, 2012 by Hardbopjazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted March 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 that house is really tiny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzjet Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 It would be interesting to hear, but I've heard the material, and you can't hear too much of anything, really. I have a very high tolerance for homemade tapes and such, but this one is damn near unlistenable. You can hear the lines (more or less), but the tones all sound the same, which is to say, one prolonged GRGGRGRHKNWPCLQGRGGRGRHKNWPCLQGRGGRGRHKNWPCLQGRGGRGRHKNWPCLQ Not a vowel to be had. Too bad, really. Sort of like Joe Btfsplk, no vowels in his sir name. My copy of this, albeit not great, is listenable, at least to me. Since this is a private recording I can offer it to anyone that wants to hear it. These are the links Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4 Part 5 Interesting. Do you have a track listing as there are more tracks here than in the session listed above? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardbopjazz Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 It would be interesting to hear, but I've heard the material, and you can't hear too much of anything, really. I have a very high tolerance for homemade tapes and such, but this one is damn near unlistenable. You can hear the lines (more or less), but the tones all sound the same, which is to say, one prolonged GRGGRGRHKNWPCLQGRGGRGRHKNWPCLQGRGGRGRHKNWPCLQGRGGRGRHKNWPCLQ Not a vowel to be had. Too bad, really. Sort of like Joe Btfsplk, no vowels in his sir name. My copy of this, albeit not great, is listenable, at least to me. Since this is a private recording I can offer it to anyone that wants to hear it. These are the links Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4 Part 5 Interesting. Do you have a track listing as there are more tracks here than in the session listed above? This is what I put together. Joe Brazil's basement Detroit, MI Donald Towns (tp), John Coltrane, Joe Henderson and Hank Mobley (ts), Joe Brazil and Sonny ?Red? Kyner (as), High Lawson (p), Ernie Farrow (bass), Roy Brooks (d). 1. Untitled blues jam, ending with Now's the Time (18:46), 2. Woody'n You (7:25), 3. Paul's Pal (12:20), 4. Sweet Georgia Brown (11:40) Total 47:00 Disc 2 1. Unknown Title 19:42, 2 Unknown Title 21:22, 3. Unknown Title 18:35 Total 59:41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzjet Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 It would be interesting to hear, but I've heard the material, and you can't hear too much of anything, really. I have a very high tolerance for homemade tapes and such, but this one is damn near unlistenable. You can hear the lines (more or less), but the tones all sound the same, which is to say, one prolonged GRGGRGRHKNWPCLQGRGGRGRHKNWPCLQGRGGRGRHKNWPCLQGRGGRGRHKNWPCLQ Not a vowel to be had. Too bad, really. Sort of like Joe Btfsplk, no vowels in his sir name. My copy of this, albeit not great, is listenable, at least to me. Since this is a private recording I can offer it to anyone that wants to hear it. These are the links Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4 Part 5 Interesting. Do you have a track listing as there are more tracks here than in the session listed above? This is what I put together. Joe Brazil's basement Detroit, MI Donald Towns (tp), John Coltrane, Joe Henderson and Hank Mobley (ts), Joe Brazil and Sonny ?Red? Kyner (as), High Lawson (p), Ernie Farrow (bass), Roy Brooks (d). 1. Untitled blues jam, ending with Now's the Time (18:46), 2. Woody'n You (7:25), 3. Paul's Pal (12:20), 4. Sweet Georgia Brown (11:40) Total 47:00 Disc 2 1. Unknown Title 19:42, 2 Unknown Title 21:22, 3. Unknown Title 18:35 Total 59:41 Thanks a lot for the information. My query is to do with the tracks on Part 2. These appear to be a lot more contemporary and studio-based than the lo-fi Joe Brazil basement recordings. The same applies to track 2 of Part 1. Just wondered where they might have come from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 Can't comment on the whole thing, but Part 1 Track 1 is Coltrane playing "Chasin' The Trane" w/no other horns present, and Track 2 is definitely not from the 1950s, not with that type of bass playing and recording, and it's not Woody'n You. Which is to say that these cuts, anyway, are not the Joe Brazil tapes under discussion here. Maybe on some of the other parts, perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 Sounds like you've got some Art Pepper and Elvin Jones... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 (edited) Ok, your Parts 3,4, & 5 are the Brazil tapes, and in marginally better sound than I have them. It's till tough sledding, but the individual voices can be made out, roughly. Thanks for sharing this! Edited March 4, 2012 by JSngry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardbopjazz Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 Sounds like you've got some Art Pepper and Elvin Jones... You may be right about these other tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Been listening to your versions of the Brazil material, and yes, it is clearer than I've ever ehard it, but there's still the whatever-causes-it thing where the horn players sound like they're playing mutliphonics on every note, some kind of distortion that's affecting the overtones or something...I don't have the knowledge to accurately describe it. I'd love it if somewhere there was a copy of this tape that didn't have that. An earleir generation copy, if one exists. But still - this is the least "muddled" version of this material I've come across. Again, thanks for sharing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted June 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 it does not properly fit into the mobley timeline, he might of even been in jail at this time. look at his session index and youll see it yourself. what real proof do we have that the mobe was there? what are they going off of? the tape itself certainly contains no clues..., so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted June 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 look you guys, i need you to back me up on this- this is tarnishing the mobes legacy. it is this fans belief that this mobley discg. listing is --INCORRECT--. check it out, ive come across this situation before. like hey, did you hear hank did this or that, and it checks out. but THIS time.....EVEN with an actual recording, i have to say no. i have a question--- what is the musical snippet people are going on, that this is hank? what are they basing this on. i would LOVE to know what their source was on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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