chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted July 23, 2011 Report Posted July 23, 2011 http://i.ebayimg.com/t/BUDDY-TATE-Rock-Rollers-Orchestra-Halo-mono-dg-LP-/08/!BuKEnQQ!Wk~$(KGrHqYOKjgEvPW!dgMcBL+IizwRDw~~_3.JPG WTF did i just buy here, oh my god. its straight up big band jazz. i have no idea whats going on in the title, does anyone else besides me know this album exists now? Quote
brownie Posted July 23, 2011 Report Posted July 23, 2011 Never heard of that album. But you may be in for a pleasant surprise! Buddy Tate always delivers! The Lord Discography indicates this comes from the mid-50s and probably features Tate's regular small band of the time! Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted July 23, 2011 Report Posted July 23, 2011 (edited) Nice cover. Would have snapped up that one unseen-unheard too. Not least of all for the record title for curiosity value. ;-) Surprising to see, though, that according to the Jepsen and Bruyninckx discographies this is said to have been recorded SPECIFICALLY for the HALO budget label. AFAIK Halo usually reissued older recordings from defunct labels by (then) major artists to cash in on the drawing power of the names (as did many budget labels then), e.g. Halo reissued older National recordings by the Louis Prima Orchestra to grab a bite of the Louis Prima market after he had relaunched his career on Capitol. I think it wouldn't be unlikely these recordings may originally have been done for the BATON label (as the recordings Tate had done prior to these) and somehow remained in the can until they found their way onto that Halo LP. So they may have come from the same source that yielded THIS 80s reissue LP (below) with Baton recordings. More from Baton also was reissued on Black & Blue in France in the 70s. BTW, Bruyninckx sez only half of that HALO LP is by Buddy Tate, and the rest is by an "unknown R&B orchestra". Maybe some stunt like they pulled on other budget labels where recordings by the Freddie Mitchell band (and others) resurfaced as by fake band names or like the umpteenth retitling of Joe Houston tracks on Crown LPs... Anyway, Chewy, WADDAYA MEAN that Buddy Tate "COMPLETELY SELLS OUT"?? Just because the Rock'n'Roll tag was attached to these releases? He did not - just like Cootie Williams did not sell out with his 50s R&B recordings either, and neither did others in the same vein. (Yeah, I know, I am biased, but I gotta defend the "Big Beat" tag after all ). So wise up, man! Just because some of these swing masters decided to go the down-to-earth, gutsy, honest, straightforward R&B route (instead of awkwardly trying to "update" their blowing into fancy rambling that some would have called "modern" but what just would not have bneen their bag) does not mean they "sold out". There IS a straight line of evolution between and swing and R&B, after all. And in the sense of black 50s combos and orchestras, the "rock and roll" label was just the marketing tag applied to R&B. After all we are talking about REAL rock'n'roll of the c.1954 to c.1962 era, NOT that later stuff that many Americans erroneously refer to as rock & ROLL too (actually Rock stopped rolling in the early 60s and became just plain "Rock" later on - not much to do with the REAL thing anymore ;) ). Edited July 23, 2011 by Big Beat Steve Quote
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