Charles Mingus Birthday Broadcast - Better Get Hit in Your Soul!

[Blue Train]

http://www.studentaffairs.columbia.edu/wkcr/story/charles-mingus-birthday-broadcast-monday-april-22nd

[Blue Train]

Considering this thread has gotten no views....I might have posted this in the wrong forum.

Up for anyone that might have missed this.

Edited April 22, 2013 by Blue Train

[fasstrack]

'Jazz radio' is where it goes.

Edited April 22, 2013 by fasstrack

[Blue Train]

Phil Schaap time. Don't even get Pops started on him! haha

[Blue Train]

Phil Schaap just said "he was born in 1922. So he wasn't going to start in 1922" in his now 10 minute rambling about Charles Mingus' Debut Records.


I know there is the Pops factor....but just how many people can suck the life out of such an amazing musician/composer and music like Phil Schaap?


Edited in: 15 minutes of Phil Schaap!....and at least three times he said he was going to play actual music.

Edited April 22, 2013 by Blue Train

[fasstrack]

I know there is the Pops factor....but just how many people can suck the life out of such an amazing musician/composer and music like Phil Schaap?

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He's funny that way....

[sgcim]

Paul Bollenback recently told me that he played at a concert where PS was gushing over his playing the whole night, and then he met him on the street the next day and PS didn't even know who he was and ignored him!

[Blue Train]

15 minutes of Schaap rambling on resulted in about 13 minutes of actual Minugs.

Now followed by Schaap in about 13 minutes and counting of Schaap. He's now going into Earth Day!

How did he even last this long?

Edited in...just since I posted that he actually claimed he was going to play music three times....and he's still talking. IBM and General Motors somehow enters his rambling.

He's still talking.

Massey Hall time.

Edited April 22, 2013 by Blue Train

[ejp626]

Can't stream the show from work, and will be too busy with other things when I get home.

Oh well.

[BeBop]

I listened from work this morning. From 2:00 until about 5:00AM, there was a reasonably good DJ how played a whole lot more than he talked. Whole sides at a time. Once in a while a short "sidenote" (e.g., about Bird playing plastic alto at Massey Hall). The 5:00AM - 7:00AM DJ was okay, though she seemed to have less knowledge/history behing her (frequent mis-pronounciations of names), but she satyed out of the way.

[sgcim]

I listen to KCR constantly at home, and I think most of the DJs other than PS and a few others, are Columbia students who either don't have anything better to do, or are getting partial credit for DJing.

The only reason KCR is still playing jazz (with probably 75% of it being "Free Jazz") is that it's stipulated in their broadcasting contract with the University, according to PS on one of their recent pledge drives.

If the students had their way, they'd probably be playing hip-hop and the stuff you hear on WFMU, 24/7.

One reason why I support a Socialist Jazz State Gov't.

[JETman]

I listen to KCR constantly at home, and I think most of the DJs other than PS and a few others, are Columbia students who either don't have anything better to do, or are getting partial credit for DJing.

The only reason KCR is still playing jazz (with probably 75% of it being "Free Jazz") is that it's stipulated in their broadcasting contract with the University, according to PS on one of their recent pledge drives.

If the students had their way, they'd probably be playing hip-hop and the stuff you hear on WFMU, 24/7.

One reason why I support a Socialist Jazz State Gov't.

That last statement is so damn ironic coming from a working musician who'd like to make money in a free marketplace!

You are in.correct in almost everything you state here. Schaap is a Columbia graduate and so is Ashley Kahn who also worked at the station. Given that Columbia offers no degree in communication, what would "students who have nothing better to do" be getting partial credit for?

How do I know all this, you ask? I am a graduate who volunteered at the station for a short time.

[sgcim]

I should have mentioned that what I said was my opinion based on listening to KCR's on-air people mispronounce jazz musicians' names for many years now, and cracking me up by saying things like, "and playing the drum set on the last song was...".

Basically, they sound like very intelligent people who don't know too much about jazz. They don't take anything away from the music that they play, and almost always tell the personnel on every cut, which is more than I can say for WBGO DJs.

So, despite your snotty tone and inability to spell the word incorrect correctly, I'll keep on listening to KCR.

My partially tongue-in-cheek last comment reflected the fact that, because KCR's board (or whatever) ignores market forces (unlike every station in the tri-state area), it often plays more interesting music (IMHO) than most of the other stations.

As for my last statement- you don't know me from Adam, so what makes you think I'm a "working musician who'd like to make money in a free marketplace"?

[JETman]

I should have mentioned that what I said was my opinion based on listening to KCR's on-air people mispronounce jazz musicians' names for many years now, and cracking me up by saying things like, "and playing the drum set on the last song was...".

Basically, they sound like very intelligent people who don't know too much about jazz. They don't take anything away from the music that they play, and almost always tell the personnel on every cut, which is more than I can say for WBGO DJs.

So, despite your snotty tone and inability to spell the word incorrect correctly, I'll keep on listening to KCR.

My partially tongue-in-cheek last comment reflected the fact that, because KCR's board (or whatever) ignores market forces (unlike every station in the tri-state area), it often plays more interesting music (IMHO) than most of the other stations.

As for my last statement- you don't know me from Adam, so what makes you think I'm a "working musician who'd like to make money in a free marketplace"?

I know you're a musician based on what I've read here. If you're not interested in making money, then you're more of a fool than anyone can point out on this or any other platform.

Fwiw, I inserted an extra space in "incorrect" accidentally. I guess you're just another board member who has a difficult time being told when you're wrong. How you believe that Ivy League kids attending one of the best schools in the country, if not the world, "have nothing better to do than to mispronounce musician names" on the air is beyond me. Fact is, jazzers should be well aware that, by now, the genre is so popular that maybe 6 Americans in total can pronounce their names correctly.

You still don't know what you're talking about. KCR plays what it plays and does not cater to commercialism BECAUSE it is a college radio station. Hence, no commercials. D'uh. I happen to think that it blows BGO away, and may very well be one of the best jazz stations left in the nation, Schaap's verbosity aside.

[sgcim]

KCR is a special case. Other college radio stations don't "cater to commercialism", yet play little jazz (WFUV, Hofstra, NCC, Stonybrook, etc...). According to PS, WKCR has something in its charter that says it has to play so much jazz, so much classical music, etc... Comprende?

[JETman]

KCR is a special case. Other college radio stations don't "cater to commercialism", yet play little jazz (WFUV, Hofstra, NCC, Stonybrook, etc...). According to PS, WKCR has something in its charter that says it has to play so much jazz, so much classical music, etc... Comprende?

Do you get that no college radio station "caters" to commercialism?

If there is such a stipulation in its charter, it's because Columbia University is a New York institution. As a result, so is KCR. No New York = very little jazz to speak of over the last 80 years or so.