HutchFan Posted March 1, 2018 Report Posted March 1, 2018 (edited) On 2/27/2018 at 6:04 PM, Larry Kart said: Unhappy with every Mahler 8th recording I’ve heard -- Horenstein would have been ideal, but the sound isn’t what it needs to be for these vast forces, and the celebrated in many quarters Solti/CSO is interpretatively brutal — I was prompted by this review: http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2006/07/alles-vergngliche-ozawas-mahler-eighth.html to try the unlikely (so I thought) Ozawa/BSO recording. Bingo!  This is also my favorite M8 -- by a considerable margin.   It's so much more subtle than other versions. You can hear continuity with the transparent textures that reappear in Das Lied von der Erde. I never heard the connection between these works so clearly until I heard Ozawa's recording.   NP: Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 4, etc. / Ormandy, Philadelphia O (Sony) IMO, the plush, luxuriant sound that Ormandy favors is a perfect match for this music.  Edited March 1, 2018 by HutchFan Quote
Larry Kart Posted March 1, 2018 Report Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, HutchFan said: This is also my favorite M8 -- by a considerable margin.   It's so much more subtle than other versions. You can hear continuity with the transparent textures that reappear in Das Lied von der Erde. I never heard the connection between these works so clearly until I heard Ozawa's recording.   NP: Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 4, etc. / Ormandy, Philadelphia O (Sony) IMO, the plush, luxuriant sound that Ormandy favors is a perfect match for this music.  Speaking of Das Leid -- I just listened for the first time to the Bruno Walter/N.Y. Phil/Ernst Hafliger/Mildred Miller recording. Hafliger in the first movement is terrific -- yes. there's Wunderlich with Klemperer, but Hafliger seems to me to get right "in there" emotionally, while Fritz is more about his gorgeous soaring voice. Quote
HutchFan Posted March 1, 2018 Report Posted March 1, 2018 47 minutes ago, Larry Kart said: Speaking of Das Leid -- I just listened for the first time to the Bruno Walter/N.Y. Phil/Ernst Hafliger/Mildred Miller recording. Hafliger in the first movement is terrific -- yes. there's Wunderlich with Klemperer, but Hafliger seems to me to get right "in there" emotionally, while Fritz is more about his gorgeous soaring voice. Oh yes. I like that one too. Walter's DLvdE with Ferrier is the recording that most folks rave about, but I actually like the Hafliger/Miller version just as much. That said, Kubelik's live recording with Janet Baker and Waldemar Kmentt is my "desert-island" choice.  For whatever reason, Klemperer's Mahler -- including the Wunderlich/Ludwig DLvdE that you mention -- has never really grabbed me. I like Klemps in other repertoire, but not so much in Mahler. Quote
soulpope Posted March 1, 2018 Report Posted March 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, HutchFan said: That said, Kubelik's live recording with Janet Baker and Waldemar Kmentt is my "desert-island" choice.   Second to none .... Quote
Larry Kart Posted March 2, 2018 Report Posted March 2, 2018 On 3/1/2018 at 0:54 PM, HutchFan said: Oh yes. I like that one too. Walter's DLvdE with Ferrier is the recording that most folks rave about, but I actually like the Hafliger/Miller version just as much. That said, Kubelik's live recording with Janet Baker and Waldemar Kmentt is my "desert-island" choice.  For whatever reason, Klemperer's Mahler -- including the Wunderlich/Ludwig DLvdE that you mention -- has never really grabbed me. I like Klemps in other repertoire, but not so much in Mahler. Just ordered the Kubelik. Thanks for the recommendation. Now I've listened to it. Thanks again. Quote
soulpope Posted March 2, 2018 Report Posted March 2, 2018 14 hours ago, HutchFan said: For whatever reason, Klemperer's Mahler -- including the Wunderlich/Ludwig DLvdE that you mention -- has never really grabbed me. I like Klemps in other repertoire, but not so much in Mahler. Although him not being my Mahler "go to conductor" this late Klemperer Mahler 2 from 1965 in Munich is a gem .... with the tempi slowed down a few notches this performance unfolds the sheer beauty of this euvre with both Heather Harper and Janet Baker in excellent shape .... Quote
HutchFan Posted March 2, 2018 Report Posted March 2, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, soulpope said: Although him not being my Mahler "go to conductor" this late Klemperer Mahler 2 from 1965 in Munich is a gem .... with the tempi slowed down a few notches this performance unfolds the sheer beauty of this euvre with both Heather Harper and Janet Baker in excellent shape .... O.K. I'm listening to it right now via YT. I know Klemperer's studio M2 with the Philharmonia, Schwarzkopf & Rössl-Majdan -- but I've never heard this live version before.   15 hours ago, Larry Kart said: Just ordered the Kubelik. Thanks for the recommendation. You won't regret it!   Edited March 2, 2018 by HutchFan Quote
Balladeer Posted March 2, 2018 Report Posted March 2, 2018 Robert Fürstenthal - Songs of Life an Passing (Toccata Classics) Rafael Fingerlos (baritone) & Sascha El Mouissi (piano) Quote
paul secor Posted March 3, 2018 Report Posted March 3, 2018 5 hours ago, soulpope said:  My classical collection is small compared to most here, but I love the Quatuor Mosaiques Haydn recordings. Quote
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