erwbol Posted January 10, 2020 Report Posted January 10, 2020 1 minute ago, David Ayers said: Noted. If these come round again I’ll be waiting. The masters have been used for subsequent (budget) reissues in jewel cases, some up until recently while others having been replaced with for instance the US Originals masters of the 2011 SHM-CD masters. I have a spare copy of this Ascension in jewel case in near mint condition as well (UCCI-9124). Are you perhaps interested for a friendly price? I also have Live at the Village Vanguard Again! (UCCI-9144). Also a spare copy of the incredible SHM-CD from 2011 of Meditations without the distortion in the bass of the all domestic releases. And SHM-CD 2011 of Transition. Friendly price means free except the price of shipping, which is not budget from the Netherlands. Quote
jazzbo Posted January 10, 2020 Report Posted January 10, 2020 Dexter Gordon "Our Man in Paris" Blue Note Japan "24 Bit by RVG" cd For a bit more than a month I've neglected to refile this one in the shelves and have been spinning it. It has the mojo, great to have Bud and Klook with Dex. Quote
HutchFan Posted January 10, 2020 Report Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, erwbol said: Though the two sets from March 6, 1970 have been recorded in much better sound without the added distortion. Strange Sony chose to only release March 7, 1970. The soundboard bootleg from the other night is an essential companion. Thanks erwbol. I'll track that down. I will say that I intentionally avoided including bootlegs in my survey -- even if they're widely available. Just wanted to stick with official releases. 1 hour ago, JSngry said: The thing that most makes me smile about this gig is a bit trivial (or not, maybe!) - the gig was Wayne's last with the band, and it was on a Saturday. With that in mind,, note that Wayne takes great pains to, at one point, quote "Never On Sunday" to some great length. Language! Wayne's fantastic wit. No way that's trivial. 1 hour ago, Justin V said: When my daughter wakes up and asks for some Stitt, I have no problem obliging her. Justin, you have an extremely HIP daughter! 1 hour ago, John Tapscott said: Still strange that Geri Allen's gone. ... Way too soon. Edited January 10, 2020 by HutchFan Quote
JSngry Posted January 10, 2020 Author Report Posted January 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, HutchFan said: Wayne's fantastic wit. No way that's trivial. Right. And the notion of music as an actual language, a means of literal (but non-verbal) communication, no way that's trivial either! Notes are just the building blocks of a very complex and comprehensive language. Verbal language is actually too often crude in comparison. Quote
HutchFan Posted January 10, 2020 Report Posted January 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, JSngry said: Verbal language is actually too often crude in comparison. Absolutely. Makes me think of this famous quote: "Human speech is like a cracked kettle on which we tap crude rhythms for bears to dance to, while we long to make music that will move the stars to pity." -- Flaubert NP: Quote
jazzbo Posted January 10, 2020 Report Posted January 10, 2020 "Milt Jackson" Blue Note Japan 24 bit by RVG cd. Quote
erwbol Posted January 10, 2020 Report Posted January 10, 2020 32 minutes ago, HutchFan said: Thanks erwbol. I'll track that down. I will say that I intentionally avoided including bootlegs in my survey -- even if they're widely available. Just wanted to stick with official releases. It's no longer on Dimeadozen, but I still have the FLAC files from 2006 on my hard drive. I can upload to dropbox or similar for whomever is interested. ---------------- Miles Davis Sextet March 6, 1970 Fillmore East New York City Miles Davis - trumpet Wayne Shorter - tenor & soprano saxophones Chick Corea - electric piano Dave Holland - acoustic & electric basses Jack DeJohnette - drums Airto Moreira - percussion Disc One: First Show 1. (band warming up) / Directions 8:29 2. Miles Runs the Voodoo Down 13:08 3. I Fall in Love Too Easily/Sanctuary 5:56 4. It's About That Time/The Theme (appl) 14:39 Disc Two: Second Show 1. (band warming up) / Directions 9:58 2. Miles Runs the Voodoo Down 10:16 3. Miles Runs the Voodoo Down (concl) 4:32 4. It's About That Time/The Theme (appl) 16:19 (I Fall in Love Too Easily and Sanctuary are omitted) Artwork available here: http://www.miles-trees.org/pasttrees/index.cfm?fuseaction=cor_av&artID=973 More information at Peter Losin's "Miles Ahead": http://www.plosin.com/milesAhead/Sessions.aspx?s=700306 I originally received this several rears ago via the Miles-Trees.org "Fillmore" tree. Thanks to all involved for your efforts. This should not be confused with the following night's concert (March 7), which Columbia officially released as "It's About That Time" in 2001. When the Fillmore Tree was originally distributed, the general consensus was that this March 6 recording sounded much better than the official March 7 release. Lineage: Audio CD-R -> xACT CD extract util -> .WAV files -> xACT flac level 8 -> you Quote
JSngry Posted January 10, 2020 Author Report Posted January 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said: How do you say "Where is the men's room?" in music? Why would you need to? Quote
HutchFan Posted January 10, 2020 Report Posted January 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said: How do you say "Where is the men's room?" in music? 1 minute ago, JSngry said: Why would you need to? Exactly. You're thinking in prose, Captain. Think POETRY. Wooing a lover (or at least getting laid). Finding God (or at least some sort of meaning). Sorting out the order of things. Expressing who you are, booty shaking-wise or otherwise. BIG things, man! That's what the language of music is for. Quote
JSngry Posted January 10, 2020 Author Report Posted January 10, 2020 OTOH, I used to think that Joanne Brackeen always sounded/played like she needed to pee, like, right NOW. But I'd also think that she was pro enough to have already scoped out where the bathroom was in any place she played. Pros just do that. Quote
jazzbo Posted January 10, 2020 Report Posted January 10, 2020 Disc 1 of the "The Complete Hank Mobley Blue Note Sessions 1963-70" box set from Mosaic Records. 52 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said: How do you say "Where is the men's room?" in music? You reference the famous Creedence Clearwater Revival song. Quote
Justin V Posted January 10, 2020 Report Posted January 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said: Because if a language has no fixed meaning that people can agree upon, then it's useless. What if I'm finding god on my sax but that fat homely bitch in the front row thinks I'm wooing her? Speaking of language... Quote
HutchFan Posted January 10, 2020 Report Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, JSngry said: OTOH, I used to think that Joanne Brackeen always sounded/played like she needed to pee, like, right NOW. But I'd also think that she was pro enough to have already scoped out where the bathroom was in any place she played. Pros just do that. Jim, you're confusing musical urgency with bladder urgency. Not all urgency is the same. Edited January 10, 2020 by HutchFan Quote
JSngry Posted January 10, 2020 Author Report Posted January 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said: Because if a language has no fixed meaning that people can agree upon, then it's useless. We need, at best, a dictionary and a government, to make that even kinda work for verbal/written languages on any scale, so I'm not particularly impressed by their efficacy. 16 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said: What if I'm finding god on my sax but that fat homely bitch in the front row thinks I'm wooing her? Then you'd best allow for the possibility that you are about to find god where you least expect it (which is usually how it works anyway). 9 minutes ago, HutchFan said: Jim, you're confusing musical urgency with bladder urgency. Not all urgency is the same. Nor are all bathrooms. The REAL pros know which ones have locks on the stalls. Quote
HutchFan Posted January 10, 2020 Report Posted January 10, 2020 NP: Latin Percussion Jazz Ensemble - Just Like Magic (Latin Percussion Ventures, 1979) Cheesy cover, but good music. Features no less than three heroes of Latin percussion: Tito Puente, Carlos "Patato" Valdes, and Steve Berrios. Quote
JSngry Posted January 10, 2020 Author Report Posted January 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said: WTF are you under the influence of today, my man? For thousands of years traditional cultures without writing or gov't have been communicating just fine. And as well with traditions of non-verbal communications. Cutting those off (and/or minimizing their importance in ways up to and including calling the very possibility of the existence of such) is like cutting off the higher and lower overtones. Quote
David Ayers Posted January 10, 2020 Report Posted January 10, 2020 3 hours ago, erwbol said: The masters have been used for subsequent (budget) reissues in jewel cases, some up until recently while others having been replaced with for instance the US Originals masters of the 2011 SHM-CD masters. I have a spare copy of this Ascension in jewel case in near mint condition as well (UCCI-9124). Are you perhaps interested for a friendly price? I also have Live at the Village Vanguard Again! (UCCI-9144). Also a spare copy of the incredible SHM-CD from 2011 of Meditations without the distortion in the bass of the all domestic releases. And SHM-CD 2011 of Transition. Friendly price means free except the price of shipping, which is not budget from the Netherlands. Thank you - I sent you a PM. Quote
JSngry Posted January 10, 2020 Author Report Posted January 10, 2020 54 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said: If Art Blakey starts expressing himself on the drum, the tribe won't know WTF to think and they'll all be slaughtered by the enemy. The assumption here is that "expression" by definition falls outside of the "language" of the tribe? I don't know where you grew up, but I grew up in the semi-rural American South, and we pretty much all knew that a simple "hmmmm...." could mean damn near anything (including "where's the men's room) depending on tone, inflection, facial expression, body language, the whole thing. So I've never been convinced that a literal verbal/written expression is the ultimate in meaning. Far from it, actually. Quite apart from all that though...if there's a language that is not being understood, the problem is not necessarily with the language, and really, it's not necessarily a problem at all. Nobody understands everything. How could they? Why would they? Everything? Quote
JSngry Posted January 10, 2020 Author Report Posted January 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said: But what about a language comprised of nothing but hmmm's? As long as the people who are supposed to understand it can, you got yourself a language. Now, if all you want to do is talk to yourself in a language that only you are certain to understand, hey, knock yourself out. Just don't get all angst-y if the gigs aren't there. Quote
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