pre-1970 versions of HERBIE HANCOCK tunes on NON-Herbie leader dates

[Rooster_Ties]

Inspired by the same thread I started earlier about Chick Corea.

Similar ground-rules (only dates from the 60's), but with a couple limitations...

ONLY DATES WITH HERBIE ACTUALLY ON THE DATE. There's a TON of Herbie covers from the 60's, and that's a whole 'nother can of worms I don't want to get into here.

And let's only worry about Herbie tunes recorded with/by Miles that Herbie DIDN'T record himself on one of his own leader dates. (In other words, only Herbie tunes exclusive to the Miles catalog -- are there any??)

Seems like there's about three or four Herbie tunes on BN that I always forget about until I actually pick up the date in question. Tunes that weren't remakes (earlier or later) of tunes Herbie made himself (on his own leader-dates).

There's one or two on some early Donald Byrd albums. Gotta be some others I'm forgetting.

Edited December 12, 2006 by Rooster_Ties

[Rooster_Ties]

37 Requiem Hancock

from one of the Byrd/Adams BN dates (via AMG, looking up the Mosaic)

[Guy Berger]

"The Collector" on Wayne's Adam's Apple

[Rooster_Ties]

Are there any Herbie tunes that he recorded with Miles, that Herbie DIDN'T also record himself (on one of Herbie's own leader dates)???

There weren't any Herbie tunes in the Miles book before Wayne started -- right?? (That's my memory of it.)

Edited December 12, 2006 by Rooster_Ties

[Rooster_Ties]

OK, here's everything from the Miles 65-68 box (via the AMG). My memory is that all of these tunes were also recorded on Herbie leader dates (I'll confirm this later, when I get the chance).

And I can't think of any Herbie tunes on any Miles albums prior to the 65-68 studio material (and I'm sure if there was one, it would jump to mind).

4 Little One Hancock 7:23

19 The Sorcerer Hancock 5:11

25 Madness Hancock 1:56

29 Madness Hancock 6:45

35 Riot Hancock 3:05

43 I Have a Dream Hancock 6:44

44 Speak Like a Child Hancock 2:28

The last two are rehearsal takes, not fully-realized studio recordings.

Edited December 12, 2006 by Rooster_Ties

[Guy Berger]

There weren't any Herbie tunes in the Miles book before Wayne started -- right?? (That's my memory of it.)

No.

"Riot" was apparently the only Herbie tune to enter Miles's live book.

Guy

[JSngry]

Are there any Herbie tunes that he recorded with Miles, that Herbie DIDN'T also record himself (on one of Herbie's own leader dates)???

"Madness"

[Rosco]

Some that Donald Byrd recorded:

on Free Form

Night Flower

Three Wishes

on Royal Flush

Requiem

on Up wiith Donald Byrd

Blind Man, Blind Man

Cantaloupe Island

And with Bobby Hutcherson:

on Happenings

Maiden Voyage

and on Oblique

Theme From Blow-Up

[Rooster_Ties]

Another I just thought of with Herbie as a sideman...

From Nat Adderly's "Sayin' Something" (on Atlantic, with Joe Henderson, no less)

Cataloupe Island

Edited December 12, 2006 by Rooster_Ties

[Rooster_Ties]

I knew there was another one on BN that I was forgetting.

From Jackie McLean's "Vertigo" (also with Byrd, and also very early in Herbie's career)...

Yams Hancock 8:00

I almost never think of these Herbie tunes, normally, unless and until I pull out the date in question.

Edited December 12, 2006 by Rooster_Ties

[Rosco]

"The Collector" on Wayne's Adam's Apple

Also recorded by Miles as 'Teo's Bag'

[DMP]

Kai Winding's "Dirty Dog" - "Blindman" and "Cantaloupe."

[Rosco]

I think the real question is: How many times has Herbie recorded Cantaloupe Island with different leaders?