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I think that "Sphere Music" and "Toys" are excellent jazz albums under Caine's leadership. I like his playing on Don Byron albums, such as "Bug Music." I have not liked his classical albums--just a matter of personal taste. After hearing the original classical works many times due to my wife's interest in classical music, I find Caine's Bach and Mahler albums to be beyond "creative" and to verge on pretentious weirdness for weirdness' sake. Again, that's just me.

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Thanks, Chuck! You saved me some work! I imagine that you have a library of many issues of this magazine. I just have the one issue.

I have the magazine at my office. I will post the alto sax results Monday morning, unless I can get into my office tonight. I recall that Ornette was second. I can't remember who was first but it was not Cannonball.

I could do without the T-Bone Walker as I have all but a couple of tracks. Will it be compulsory? MG The Mosaic T-Bone Walker given to you in the afterlife will include his 2006 collaboration with Baby Face Willette, recorded on a puffy white cloud.

Kansas City built a publicly funded new arena downtown, the centerpiece of a multi-billion dollar downtown revitalization project, but has no team to put in it. It can be expected that every owner of a professional basketball or hockey team will use Kansas City as a bargaining chip to get what he wants from the city where his team is presently located--until one city calls an owner's bluff and he ends up actually moving his team to Kansas City (probably to his own astonishment).

Now that it is a new day and I have renewed energy for this sort of thing, here are the results from the 1966 Jazz magazine Readers Poll for Jazz Composition, and Jazz Arrangement. Jazz Composition John Coltrane--A Love Supreme.....................1976 Horace Silver--Song For My Father...................362 Charles Mingus--Meditations on Integration.......360 Andrew Hill--Ghetto Lights................................151 Duke Ellington--Island Virgin............................146 Lalo Schifrin--The New Continent........................97 Gil Evans--Lotus Land........................................81 Rod Levitt--Mayor Of Vermont Village..................61 Archie Shepp--Hambone....................................58 Ornette Coleman--Faces and Places....................55 Lalo Schifrin--Jazz Suite on Mass Texts................46 John Coltrane--Brazalia......................................41 Cecil Taylor--Octagonal Skirts and Fancy Pants.....34 Duke Ellington--In The Beginning God..................31 Jazz Arrangement Roswell Rudd--Niema..................................875 Gil Evans--Lotus Land..................................820 Duke Ellington--Rhapsody in Blue.................462 Duke Ellington--Island Virgin........................291 John Coltrane--A Love Supreme...................195 Herbie Hancock--The Egg..............................92 Charles Mingus--Meditations on Integration.....91 Lalo Schifrin--The New Continent....................75 Gary McFarland--And I Love Her.....................61 Donald Byrd--I'm Tryin' To Get Home..............45 Archie Shepp--Hambone................................39 Eddie Sauter--Mickey One..............................37 Cal Tjader--Soul Sauce..................................30

The Complete Horo Records Recordings Who would have thought that when this was finally reissued on CD, that the box set would sound so good, have such a lavish booklet (love the full color reproductions of the front and back covers!) and cost so little? At last, to have all of Horo in one place.

Doctors Professors Kings and Queens, A Big Ol' Box of New Orleans This 4 CD set contains many jazz cuts, mixed with New Orleans rhythm and blues, zydeco and other styles. The jazz cuts are fine. The set as a whole knocks me out. It is one of the most fun listening experiences I know of.

Met Pauline Rivelli a couple of times during visits to NYK in the late sixties. It was common knowledge then that she was Thiele's companion. When I had a first look at this thread, I thought it referred to the French review Jazz Magazine. Unless Im' wrong, the Rivelli magazine was simply named Jazz which was changed into Jazz & Pop in the late 60s. One photo of James Brown I took was on the cover of a late 1967 Jazz & Pop -_- It is the magazine called Jazz. I have tried to be careful throughout this thread to refer to it as Jazz magazine, not Jazz Magazine.

In the afterlife, we will all have a complete set of all Mosaics ever issued, or to be issued.

I agree--and along those lines, some other categories were even closer. Richard Davis won the Bass category by three votes over Charles Mingus, 1051-1048. (Ray Brown was third with 381). Miles Davis won Small Group by 16 votes over Dave Brubeck, 497-481 (John Coltrane's group was third with 362). Buddy DeFranco won Clarinet by 18 votes over Pee Wee Russell (766-748), with Jimmy Giuffre third at 329. Three flute players were close at the top of the Flute category: Yusef Lateef--760, Roland Kirk--729, Herbie Mann-706. Jim Hall had a 1063-984 vote margin over Kenny Burrell in the Guitar category. Wes Montgomery was third at 561.

Thanks for the information, Chuck. Most of the poll results are close to what you might expect. The Jazz Arrangement of the Year category winner is Roswell Rudd--"Niema". No album is listed. Does anyone know what 1965 album contains this arrangement?

Jazz Magazine (later called Jazz & Pop) was owned by Bob Thiele so it shouldn't suprise you they exhibited a "much more positive attitude toward the Impulse! label". That is very interesting, Chuck. Bob Thiele's name appears nowhere in the editorial listings. The editor is Pauline Rivelli--do you know who she was? Associate editors were George Hoefer and Dan Priest. The list of several contributing editors includes John Szwed as "folk and blues editor". Of course, John Szwed later authored the Sun Ra biography, among other books. There is a round table discussion piece in this issue about the jazz avant garde, and the Letters to the Editor column contains letters in which readers state opinions about a previous piece on the avant garde by Frank Kofsky. Another letter to the editor complains that the March issue was largely devoted to Lawrence Welk. The editor replies that he was news, because Johnny Hodges had just done a collaboration LP with Welk.

Interesting that Shorter ranks so low, and that Shepp ranks so high. When was the poll conducted? Was this at the end or beginning of 1966? Guy The issue came out in May, 1966, and the opening editorial relates how so many ballots came in around the deadline that they extended the deadline. So it must have been a year-end 1965 or early 1966 voting period.

And the drummer would be Joe Morello, who won the drums category.

One oddity in the May, 1966 issue of Jazz magazine--there is a feature in which they ask various people for their one desert island jazz record. Those asked include Cab Calloway, Stanley Dance, Frank Driggs, Mel Torme, David Rose, Irwin Corey, Mort Greene, and RED SKELTON. Red says that his desert island record would have to have Lionel Hampton on one side and Stan Getz on the other. Mort Greene picks the then recent collaboration on LP of Lawrence Welk and Johnny Hodges.

Piano results: Oscar Peterson...................696 Bill Evans...........................681 Herbie Hancock...................427 Thelonious Monk.................395 McCoy Tyner......................332 Earl Hines...........................197 Andrew Hill.........................182 Denny Zeitlin......................178 Horace Silver......................174 Cecil Taylor........................159 Erroll Garner.......................157 Roger Kellaway...................121 Claire Fischer......................118 Tommy Flanagan.................110 Duke Ellington.......................94 Ramsey Lewis.......................89 Ahmad Jamal........................87 Jaki Byard............................84 John Lewis............................72 Hampton Hawes....................69 Phineas Newborn Jr...............64 Andre Previn.........................57 Teddy Wilson........................54 Les McCann..........................41 Hank Jones...........................37 George Shearing...................34

The results are not all that different on the two Organ polls, which is one thing that interested me about it.

Here are the trumpet results: Miles Davis........................1562 Dizzy Gillespie..,..................781 Clark Terry..........................529 Freddie Hubbard...................291 Louis Armstrong...................182 Lee Morgan..........................161 Don Cherry..........................131 Kenny Dorham.......................95 Art Farmer.............................81 Carmell Jones........................61 Don Ellis................................60 Cootie Williams......................55 Thad Jones............................52 Nat Adderley..........................48 Roy Eldridge..........................46 Chet Baker............................45 Donald Byrd...........................41 Here are the Tenor Saxophone results: John Coltrane.......................2109 Stan Getz.............................1017 Sonny Rollins.........................276 Ben Webster..........................161 Archie Shepp.........................104 Zoot Sims...............................92 Coleman Hawkins....................87 Charles Lloyd..........................65 Dexter Gordon........................61 Joe Henderson........................56 Charlie Rouse.........................52 Booker Ervin...........................48 Paul Gonsalves........................44 Stanley Turrentine...................41 Albert Ayler.............................39 Wayne Shorter........................37 Yusef Lateef............................35 Hank Mobley............................34 Bud Freeman...........................32 Sal Nistico...............................31

You do understand that it was the down beat poll last week? I think that you knew that, though.

I have a copy of the May, 1966, issue of Jazz Magazine, a publication based in New York. This issue lists its first annual Readers Poll. Here are the results for Organ: Jimmy Smith 2297 Shirley Scott 366 Wild Bill Davis 208 Larry Young 115 Jack McDuff 104 Don Patterson 87 Richard Holmes 86 Count Basie 77 Ray Charles 71 Freddie Roach 32 I was struck by how often the members of this forum discuss the musicians listed in the results for the other instruments. I will post them if anyone is interested. Besides the usual categories, there are categories for Jazz Composition of the Year (Top 3: A Love Supreme, Song For My Father, and Meditations on Integration) and Jazz Arrangement of the Year--I wonder what would happen if these categories were used today in the various magazine polls.

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I have come late to this thread. I grew up in Wisconsin, where brats on the grill are king (washed down with more beer than can even be imagined in most other parts of the country). I went to barbecue joints in Wisconsin, but then I moved to Kansas City..... The first time I ate at Arthur Bryant's, in 1982, was a seriously life changing experience. We waited in line for the guy at the counter to take our order. We picked up our plates and noted that they were seriously greasy on the underside. We saw a truly enormous African American man with the largest hands I have ever seen slap some Wonder Bread down on plates, grab a huge mound of sliced meat and slap it on the Wonder Bread, paint it with sauce with a brush, and then grab a mound of fries--which were irregularly shaped, as if the potatoes had been attacked at random, and throw them on the plate. It tasted fantastic, and totally outside the realm of anything remotely available in Wisconsin. My wife said that she knew I liked it because I had orange sauce stuck to the entire bottom half of my face on the way home. We stopped on the way home at the late lamented Music Exchange, with its 1 million vinyl albums, where I bought Wes Montgomery with the Wynton Kelly trio, and with Jimmy Smith--a Verve two record reissue. Even today, whenever I hear Wes Montgomery I can taste Arthur Bryant's sauce and feel a leaden lump in my gut. After that I have sampled many of the dozens of excellent Kansas City barbecue places. This is very serious barbecue country. A barbecue joint that would be the best in many other cities would not even register on the radar screen here. Some places have slightly better meat, or better sauce, or better beans, or better lamb ribs--each has its strengths. The standards are very high. The only limit to one's fun and enjoyment with barbecue in Kansas City is the degree of concern one has for one's waistline.