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Today's jazz revivalism takes a new route
Larry Kart replied to Larry Kart's topic in Miscellaneous Music
Probably. Or rather, "If not, then like what?" By many accounts the man's appetites in many areas were immense -- beyond the bounds of any real-world frameworks known to him or to us. So one either alters those needs, drives, what have you -- an immense, probably undoable task in itself and one that heroin use may have "managed" to some extent, plus who can separate the immensity of those appetites from the nature of his art? -- or one somehow creates a world where a man of Bird's' appetites is seldom if ever blocked or frustrated. Good luck with that. -
Today's jazz revivalism takes a new route
Larry Kart replied to Larry Kart's topic in Miscellaneous Music
I'll be giving it a listen in a day or so. Will probably report. -
Take the bellbottoms off and buy it. Fine Getz. Fine Rene Thomas and Eddie Louiss there too. Very intense.
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Ominous but logical development -- a new Arbors CD, "Dave Bennett Celebrates 100 Years of Benny," notes that clarinetist Dave Bennett "looks like the young Benny Goodman," and indeed he does -- frighteningly so in the album cover photo because he's so clearly straining to play up the resemblance (striking a pose from a familiar photo of BG). One hopes that Bennett isn't taking classes in how to emit "The Ray." What next -- young Miles-ian trumpeters paying to have their vocal cords destroyed? ("Repeat after me -- 'Is that what you wanted, Al-fred?'")
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Let me get this straight - this closeted gay person cruised the watering holes of Chicago journalist types? Is that how they found out? And how does it become "well-known"? Because the journalist types spread the story far and wide? What constitutes proof? Multiple reports from different people, all of whom say that Harvey picked up someone they knew? To say it was "well-known" mostly establishes that the people spreading the story wanted to believe it. But unless you tell me that this man indiscriminately picked up anyone with a Y chromosome and didn't care who knew it, I'm going to chalk up this story to the likelihood that your average Chicago journalist hated Harvey's politics and happily spread the story, making it "well-known". No, not " the watering holes of Chicago journalist types," at least not per se. In Chicago, as in all cities of any size, there were watering holes that catered to gays and where cruising for one type of partner or another was the thing. Obviously under wraps by design, especially in the "closeted" pre-Gay Lib days (though for a figure like Harvey the closet door would have had to remain closed no matter what the era), these places were potentially porous because they were subject to regular police (vice squad) attention/harrassment, and some vice cops and associated law enforcement personnel like to gossip, especially about famous people they round up or run across, especially if those famous people happen to behave officiously toward them. And to whom do vice cops and such like to gossip about such things? Police reporters. Further, as one might expect, some habitues of gay bars (and/or members of the gay community at large) like to gossip about the presence in such places of famous person X -- especially if that person has a public persona that is quite different from their private one. Can't offer proof of the sort you'd accept, Dan, but while there obviously was some "gotcha" factor at work here, you'll have to take my word (or don't) that what I heard about Harvey in this respect over the years did not strike me as terribly tendentious in tone; it was more bemused and casual.
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Also, as far as Harvey's public/moralistic homophobic stance goes, in his personal life he was gay. Yes, I know he had a wife and a son, but it was well-known in Chicago journalistic circles that Harvey was a heavy-duty cruiser, if that's the right term. Usual "Seinfeld" line applies, but then don't be a public/moralistic ... you know the drill.
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This 1928 show band,The Capitolians, is very 1928
Larry Kart replied to Larry Kart's topic in Miscellaneous Music
Did that book become the basis for the Joseph Losey-directed film of the same name? Also, the first violinist to me doesn't look like he's using a bow per se. It looks like it he lets go of the string after each pull, moves his hand up, gathers string higher up (closer to the strings), and pulls down again. This would seem feasible if there were something like a spool of string above the strings somewhere. It also sound metallic to me, but wire would make it harder to do what I just described. Yes, the Losey film is based on the novel. Your account of what the first violinist is doing makes sense to me. -
This 1928 show band,The Capitolians, is very 1928
Larry Kart replied to Larry Kart's topic in Miscellaneous Music
That's it. Also, looking at the clip again, I see that my account above of what the second violinist is doing makes no sense. Finally, what the heck is going on with Jimmy Lytell's hips during "A Blues Serenade"? -
This 1928 show band,The Capitolians, is very 1928
Larry Kart replied to Larry Kart's topic in Miscellaneous Music
The second violin soloist seems to have things set up so that the hairs of his bow meet the strings of the violin from beneath the strings rather than from above -- this probably was accomplished by undoing the bow hairs beforehand, running them under the strings, and then reattaching them to the bow. The first violin soloist is playing with "one hair," however that's done. -
This 1928 show band,The Capitolians, is very 1928
Larry Kart replied to Larry Kart's topic in Miscellaneous Music
That was the first sentence of "The Go-Between" by English novelist L. P. Hartley: "The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there." -
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=...5120&ref=nf As someone once said, the past is a foreign country.
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Several years ago I ordered a classical CD from a reputable British-based site -- don't recall the name now -- and two weird charges for several hundred dollars each popped up on my credit card statement. They were made from Eastern Europe and were used to open up websites, porn operations perhaps. Charges were cancelled, and a new card seemed to fix things. I also opted to add a regular watchdog service through my credit card outfit for a fee. Unnecessary perhaps, but I sleep a little better.
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"Skylark," Harry James with Helen Forrest
Larry Kart replied to Larry Kart's topic in Miscellaneous Music
I could have seen her as early as 1976 or '77, at the Mill Run Theater (with a revolving stage) in a shopping center in suburban Niles. I remember feeling sad when I heard of her death. From the way she sang you would never have know she was ill. -
"Skylark," Harry James with Helen Forrest
Larry Kart replied to Larry Kart's topic in Miscellaneous Music
Forrest's voice is like a sensuous laser beam. Glad to know that she was such a nice person, too. -
"Skylark," Harry James with Helen Forrest
Larry Kart replied to Larry Kart's topic in Miscellaneous Music
Speaking of late-in-the-day encounters with female singers of that era who were still in fine form, I caught Frances Wayne (of Woody Herman's sublime version of "Happiness Is Just a Thing Called Joe," Ralph Burns arrangement) with Harry James in maybe 1980, and she was ... in fine sultry form. Wayne was Mrs. Neal Hefti. Can't find a link to "Happiness," but on this 1944 novelty number, "It Must Be Jelly," with Herman (they share the vocal), her floating time is something else: -
"Skylark," Harry James with Helen Forrest
Larry Kart replied to Larry Kart's topic in Miscellaneous Music
Not sure if I'd go into that place..... I was there several times to review things. A nice little lounge. Most memorable visit probably was to see comic Carol Leifer. Opening night was Passover; I was one of three people in the audience. -
"Skylark," Harry James with Helen Forrest
Larry Kart replied to Larry Kart's topic in Miscellaneous Music
On the other hand, there's Lee Wiley with Condon, Hackett, Teagarden, Ernie Caceres et al: I don't have to choose. -
"Skylark," Harry James with Helen Forrest
Larry Kart replied to Larry Kart's topic in Miscellaneous Music
Forrest's "The Man I Love" with Benny Goodman (Eddie Sauter arrangment) is f------- exquisite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVCqX0v6U6A...feature=related though Forrest was among the many who couldn't stand the "self-absorbed, rude, impossibly tightfisted" B.G. ("The twenty or so months I spent with Benny felt like twenty years"). She finally quit ("Find another singer, and find her fast") while the band was playing the Sherman Hotel in Chicago, this leading fortuitously to the hiring of Peggy Lee, who was singing at The Buttery at the Ambassador East, where Benny and his wife to be Alice Hammond were staying (it was she who saw Lee first and told Goodman he should check her out). In a typical B.G. move, he then required Forrest, whose contract still had a month to run, to sit alongside Lee on the bandstand every night for the duration, without singing a note. When asked why the popular Forrest wasn't performing, B.G. would say, "She's got laryngitis." But we still have "The Man I Love." -
"Skylark," Harry James with Helen Forrest
Larry Kart replied to Larry Kart's topic in Miscellaneous Music
Sorry -- I'm a forgetful idiot sometimes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUwfzy9In8I -
Dig Harry's bluesy variations and Helen's blend of reserve and intimacy. What musicians they both were.
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this Bruce Lundvall BLUE NOTE survey....
Larry Kart replied to chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez's topic in Miscellaneous Music
Thanks -- I filled it out, FWIW. -
this Bruce Lundvall BLUE NOTE survey....
Larry Kart replied to chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez's topic in Miscellaneous Music
Ane where might one take a look at this? -
Christy/Lee set booklet -- I'm bemused
Larry Kart replied to Larry Kart's topic in Mosaic and other box sets...
Don't need Pete, just June -- a cappella. -
Here's that video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHL-X85Ggao It strikes me as kitsch; in particular, as with a fair amount of Jarrett, the impulse to be melodic seems to precede the melodic impulse, if you know what I mean. The Home for Lost Arpeggios, located in Wistful Acres.
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Al Cohn story that's been told here before, but why not again. Al is at Copenhagen's Cafe Montmarte, local acquaintance suggests that he try Denmark's famous Elephant Beer, Al says, "No, man, I drink to forget."