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Happy Birthday Mr. Weiss! .

Great replacement for Ozzy. So-so replacement for Ian Gillan - less range.

I was wondering about that too. Shots of people leaving empty seats...maybe they were guessing that nobody has the nerve to tell him what he couldn't see.

I may be able to afford that box now... dB

Plant and Krauss bound for Grammy glory Sun Feb 8, 2009 12:30pm EST LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Former Led Zeppelin singer Robert Plant and bluegrass queen Alison Krauss are the favorites to take home the coveted Grammy for album of the year when the music industry's top honors are handed out on Sunday. The odd couple scored five nominations for their collaboration, "Raising Sand," on which they reworked old folk ballads and R&B chestnuts under the watchful eye of producer T-Bone Burnett, the man behind the "Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?" soundtrack, the 2002 album of the year winner. "Raising Sand" was an instant critical and commercial hit, and Plant scuttled a much-rumored Led Zeppelin reunion by opting to tour Europe and America with Krauss instead. Grammy voters will surely warm to the 60-year-old's "amazing transformation" from the frontman with one of the most debauched and successful rock bands of all time to an earnest purveyor of white mountain blues, said Doug Brod, editor at Spin magazine. "There's a quality to him that really appeals to people now," Brod said. "People see him as a survivor, as a guy who's not afraid to take chances." more story

That's just wrong*. Are they part of some Mosaic box or something? * = as awful!

Locking trems were kinda new in '79. It could have been installed after it left the factory.

Well nobody, not even me, ever said that Sun Ra wasn't occassionally full of shit either. Ah...but did Sun Ra or Zappa treat his audience like shit?

Oh and....he's still angry after all that spiritual "development".

And one of his recordings to avoid at all costs is the Gurdjieff! I've heard that before, but he's just the performer. And while there are other recordings, that may be the only one of those pieces. I have a couple of them, I happen to like them.

All I know is the big baby was/is into Sufism and Gurdjieff. He shouldn't be confused with Sun Ra. dB

Yes, Keith and Ra were hardly unique in the 60s/70s in that sort of talk (I blame cheap paperbacks of Sanskrit texts and the like). They clearly believed that they were part of whatever master plan the creator had. Now where are those Alice Coltrane records.... Any rock fan who enjoyed Yes albums in the early 70s and, more to the point, was convinced that Jon Anderson's lyrics held a key to the universe was a natural for Jarrett's philosophising. Would certainly have been far more appealling to the spirtual seeker in '76 than Johnny Rotten's! Even Frank Zappa got into the act. Didn't he have a philosophy that people, and maybe the universe, are made of strings? from wiki: String Theory is a developing branch of theoretical physics that combines quantum mechanics and general relativity into a quantum theory of gravity.

Debussy threads should be merged... That's the one I own...cheap too!

Happy Birthday! :rsly:

I'm not surprised. dB

and Etudes!

Next up...does Keith Jarrett swing? dB

By 'ordinary' listener I just mean the person whose listens without being a musician or otherwise professionally involved in music (writer, producer, administrator, record label owner etc). Though in one respect most contributors to a site like this are not going to be 'ordinary' given the sheer volume of music we listen to/purchase. Some draw their sense of identity with the professionals; others with the wider listening public. Yeah - whatever. Now that we've established that my listening habits are extraordinary, I should be treated accordingly.

I don't. Not saying you do. But I find that more committed listeners - especially those who are musicians or who have a technical musical knowledge - can lose sight (!) of how music sounds to an ordinary listener. And by far the majority of listeners are ordinary listeners. I tend to forget that my listening habits are not ordinary. Not sure that's a good idea! However much I enjoy much of Jarrett's music, he has nowhere near the range of Debussy. I've been supplementing this with doses of Bach and Handel the last few days.

I don't. I'll get around to listening to Jarrett closer eventually, maybe after my Debussy listening binge.

Yes, that would be interesting. I recall reading one of Gary Giddins collections of reviews where he got terribly upset about the Romantic-era influences on Jarrett. Always struck me as strange that he could be castigated for having Romantic influences; if he'd been influenced by Webern or Boulez he'd have got the thumbs up. Note to musicians - make sure you choose your influences from the approved list. Seriously...maybe he'd blow me away if he had those kind of influences.... Perhaps. But if he'd had those influences he'd be of little interest to the mass of listeners who have gained pleasure from his music over the years. There are other pianists with such influences who can satisfy the more 'discriminating' listener. I know that, of course. I'm still trying to find out why people think he's so wonderful.

Yes, that would be interesting. I recall reading one of Gary Giddins collections of reviews where he got terribly upset about the Romantic-era influences on Jarrett. Always struck me as strange that he could be castigated for having Romantic influences; if he'd been influenced by Webern or Boulez he'd have got the thumbs up. Note to musicians - make sure you choose your influences from the approved list. Seriously...maybe he'd blow me away if he had those kind of influences. He just...I don't know.

That could be most enlightening... With all of the knowledge floating around here there might be some interesting insights. Compared to many folks on the board I have very limited background in classical music, but one name that immediately springs to mind is Scriabin. That's what I heard. I went and bought some Scriabin, but I didn't hear it. I'm assuming I didn't study close enough. I seem to recall adorable Clem hated the Shostakovich. Again, I'm just not familar enough with Shostakovich, but I'm working on it.