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A defendant speaks: http://soundcheck.wnyc.org/story/jazz-legend-returns-lawsuit-ornette-coleman/ I hope there are cameras in the courtroom when somebody gives the admissible testimonial equivalent of "shit, Ornette's liable to say ANY damn thing, you gotta take all that shit with a grain of salt". That's the lesson that Idealistic Perfect World needs to learn, not about Ornette, but about things in general.

Yeah, ok, here. Phil Woods give a bad review to Anthony Braxton. Mr. Woods' opinion was neither warmly nor universally recived then, or now.

Uhhh...are you thinking of Bill Chase, perhaps?

Sure they did (and this is the same issue as the infamous Phill Woods BFT shitting on Braxton. But out of those records, ARE there any bad ones?

Larry Ridley gives the first EW&F album 5 Stars, Bill Cole is all over the place covering the new New , Dan Morgenstern reviews the last album of a legend, and ads, ads, ads. What struck me most about the reviews in this issue, more than in otehr issues I've looked at over the years, is how many of these records people still dig and discuss today. It was indeed a fertile time, and its reverberations continue.

Bonus Cut - The nifty little letter to the editor from Jack Tracy, pg 3, lower right,

Odd and strange alike, indeed!

Total with shipping came to 14 Euro, $15.39 US, seems plenty reasonable to me. First time shopping Discogs, finger crossed. Thanks to all for their replies, glad to know that this really is a bit of a "searcher", as well a the feedback about Discogs. I can unequivocally state that this is a damn good record, so if you ever see it, carpe diem!

Hey, they had me at "bar".

Oh, if what people deserve and what they can do are going to come to trial, the courtrooms gonna be packed for the next millennia. Le's take that one out into society at large, thre's some house-cleaning needed everywhere! And do note that the IAI Bley/Coleman record has never been reissued here. Some kind of dick got swung some kind of where.

Ornette didn't see it that way.

And maybe that's another reason for the Reputational Dick Swing in the press release - firing a warning shot to other people who might have recordings of them practicing/playing/hangingout with Ornette (you think there might be one or two?) and end up getting ideas...but all such parties would have to do would be to go all shadygrady to some offshore phantom entity and then an outraged I did NOT intend for these recordings to enter the public marketplace, I feel a profound betrayal blahblablahblahblah...which again - why did THESE guys get the balls to release it openly on their own label, their own country, hell the SAME city???? when they could have collected good enough lumpsum for REALLY bootlegging them and making it look like somebody else's doings, ALL partied betrayed then, ALL parties taken advantage of, ETC! No, there's more in that press release than just pimping a Patti Smith LUVVS Ornette coloring book and play-a-long record...foreplay for trial, warning shot to inquistives, and, perhaps inadvertently, a revealance that the House Of Coleman does not have it own business in order to the degree that perhaps it should, that'[s why they talking about Mr. X like that, do divert attention elsewhere, because y'all think Dookie done gone, hell, Dookie get a whiff of that blood starting to drip into the water, sheeet, Dookie Jr., Dookie III, Dookie IV, Jr. it'll be open sea on and open arms for all the little Dookies who wanna eat a piece o' Denardo. I ask any and all of y'[all - would you want to be in a position to protect Ornette from Ornette in real time, never mind whatever stories you get brought from 5-10-20 years ago? From the 1970s? Showdown a-brewin' at the OC Corrall, New Sharif Denardo gonna be tested mighty hard for might long...maybe. ?

Hey Rangers Fans, Pop Quiz! Oh shit ______! Beltre's thumb Josh Hamilton's StickyGooey MojoCreep Prince Fielder, just because! Koji's head probably gotten into - again .510, kiss me, I am dreaming?

Spuds McKenzie Mr. Potato Head 1937 Yamboree Queen Ruth Hogg

The Solo Album is simply Sonny free-associating as he goes, no set list or anything. As "listener-friendly music", yes mileages vary, and understandably so. But as an unfettered look at/into Sonny's "process", I think it's invaluable.

The one copy left is from a German seller with an impeccable rating, but when it comes to checkout, the shipping is listed as "Seller Will Provide"...what's current reasonable S/H from germany to US? (sorry to be such a ninny about this...)

I can see that Ziv Amir has countered it, and referred further inquiries to the label's counsel. And if you don't think that Reputational Dick Swing does not go into laying any kind of a groundwork in a case like this, really? Maybe that's not how they do thing in England, that being such a civilized society, but over here, we pull hairs, kick nuts, whatever it takes to come to trial with Justice On OUR Side. Ask yourself this - if you were Ornette's peoples, would you prefer going into a case like this with the perception being that some common students taped their lessons, or that some valid professionals collaborated on a project that was never quite properly signed off on before its release? If/when the subject came up (and god forbid, actual audio recordings surface) about what Ornette might have said about this being collective music, "our music", whatever, would you not want that to be viewed as talking to some eager-beaver studentboys instead of some dedicated young collaborators? So, if you're representing the interests of an 83 year old eccnetric genius who's liable to have said anything, how do you want your opponents to be perceived? It's a bootleg if Paul Bley releases it under uncompleted business circumstances, it's a bootleg if System Dialing releases it under uncompleted business circumstances. The Reputational Dick Swing gap between Paul Bley and System Dialing is real enough, but the Reputational Dick Swing gap between System Dialing, Prover Professionals and some unsavory students who snuck in off the street and snuck back out with some practice tapes is broader still.

Well, there were two, and one shipped from the US. It's gone now, so...whoever it was who bought it, take your markup and sell it to me, capitalism in action! I've never really felt comfortable buying through Discogs, no real reason,. Is it generally straight up?

No, it's not. It's there to Dick Swing. I don't think that "bootleg" is at all determined by the relative status/abilities involved in a recording, is it? No, it's determined, bolstered, proved, whatever, by legal parameters quite apart from that. Working musicians (and other people, I'm sure) have experienced the syndrome where you hear about a gig where the leader shorts the band in some way, maybe the bread is light, maybe there's unpaid overtime, maybe breaks are skipped, whatever, and one guy raises hell, calls the bandleader out in public, and the bandleader plays it off all slick and shit. And then, the next morning, you and every other person who has ever showed up on even one gig ever gets an email from that same bandleader talking about how they regret that I will be no longer be hiring Mr. X due to a regrettable professional disagreement, and that this is being done with great sorrow because I have felt personally invested in Mr. X, who is a fine young talent with SO much potential, why, I have hired him in spite of his struggles with obtaining affordable, reliable transportation, and I've been nothing but supportive of Mr. X in his brave efforts in battling the various personal demons that so many of young people of his background face these days, and I have hired Mr. X whenever possible because I know he's has multiple families to support, and above all, Mr. X is a fine, FINE musician who when he matures will no doubt be a talent worthy of our business, and I sincerely hope that all of you will able to provide Mr. X with future employment, and I also sincerely hope that in time I will be able to resume a working relationship with Mr. X, of whom I have nothing but the highest regards and most benevolent wishes, especially since I have a steady schedule of very lucrative engagements booked for the next five years. In other words, what, me fuck the band? Why would i do that? Mr. X is an unreliable, no count lowlife, and yeah, I'm sending this to other bandleaders and all known sidemen alike, just so you know what happens when you even think about calling me on my bullshit. Dick Swing for days. So, there to "support the bootleg claim" my ass. That shit is in there for game.

I think I do...I suppose at some point I should ask John if he's cool with all this?

Much appreciated, all.

Having a hard time finding a legit copy of this. If you have one to sell, or can point to a reputable vendor, please advise and direct, PM fine. I will pay any reasonable price (i.e. neither looking to get screwed as a buyer nor to screw anybody as a seller). Great record, been playing it in the car for two weeks straight now, it's time to make it legal. As implicitly always, if not always stated explicitly, thanks in advance, and do have an awesome day!

Have you ever drank it six weeks past its expiration date?