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YES!
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Knucklebean works for me too, especially in comparison to its predecessors, The View From The Inside & Waiting, neither of which really come close to gelling, imo. Bobby was not being, shall we say, "well-served" by the label in those days. At least not that I can tell.
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All indications are that snowbird is leasing legitimately. There was a thread earlier her, somewhere.
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Tom Scott Tom Tom Club A Baby Seal
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It's that new fangled quote function. I think what happens is that if you edit part of the quote before entering your own response, you can't get back outside the quote box to enter your response. I've had that happen more than a few times, and I've learned to at least begin to enter my response in the "open space" before going back into the box to edit the original quote.
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Bobby Tolan Gene Roland Ikutaro Kakehashi
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Yes, to all so far, also to the Charles Sullivan program.
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Accepted, yes, finally, but only after a generation or two later realized that maybe OOPS we threw the very wonderful baby out with the rancid-pissy bathwater, and where did we put that bathtub anyway, now that we could use the water? As far as jazz turning into not-jazz, well, yeah, and two things - 1. I'd like to think of "jazz" a ultimately being more about a mindset than a system (if that's truly possible, and it's a belief I'm willing to invest in that it is, although no way can I ever really know it), and 2, thus the whole Nicholas Payton BAM thing, because even though as a literal racial thing, hey, maybe not, but as a concept that allows for an expansion of collective awareness and possibilities instead of a compartmentalized/curated breakdown of them, not a particularly wrongly played notion, only that 3 (Bonus Thing!), we done been there SEVERAL generations ago, and as a forward thinking movement, not a backwards looking do-over of the last backwards looking do-over that declared that it was all A Thing Gone Wrong, All Off It, The Fusion And The Free Both. Although, I'm all down with not Running In Horror from somebody wanting to bring Dilla/Etc into the mix because it's What I Know At Least As Much As Anything Else Going In But I'd Like To Not Just STOP There. OK?, so if the BAM thing can do that, then good, although yet again, M-Base, please, and talk about abortional fratricide, well, there. And yet, Steve Coleman Lives, if in France and not New York. In what way did/do you perceive BAM as a 'literal racial thing'. Me myself, I got no problem with it. What I was referring to are the crybabies who ain't gonna let there be ANY BAM at all because there's always a white guy ionthere somewhere and why you always be lookin' to leave out the white guys, why, it's REVERSE RACIST! all that "boo hoo we're tolerant as long as it's a tolerance based in our power tolerating your attempts to have a little power" bullshit. The "literal racial thing" being the lame "white" perception that the goal is to wipe out White Folk altogether, to send them Back To Europe Where They Came From In the First Place or at the very least to Whip Them All Into Submission To Bow Down To Their Black Superiors And Never Dare Stand Upright Again. You know, the usual paranoia about having the Slave Mindfuck played back on them. That shit runs DEEP in some White Folk even today. A Failure To Process! Which is so NOT what it is. You know that and I know that. But you know how Some White Folk be. Joe Henderson-Black Is The Color (Of My True Love's Mind) Hello! But again - this has already been made apparent to us by the overt and concerted efforts of 40+ years ago (and by more powerful players and thinkers than Payton), the whole BAM concept, and the beauty therein, and how skin color might cultural predispose & predirect one towards a certain mindset but ultimately it's a personal responsibility to Stop Being Stupid, after which, hey, wonderful world, even when it's not. So even though it looks and feels and sounds like These Kids Today trying to Do It All Over Again, hey, if that's the best option on the table right now, take it and make it work good enough so when the time the NEXT False Messiah shows up to stop the progress, there'll be a Command Performance By The Mass Choir Of Calling Bullshit From Within and we won't have to start that mess all over one more 'gin.
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Woodchoppers Axe Men A Lumberjack (thank god it's not my only line)
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I particularly like the Chester Thompson side, although the trombonist is Not Up To Standard. But then again, if you're listening to any of this Black Jazz stuff strictly as "objective music", then there's a lot wrong with a lot of it. But hey, I grew up In Jazz hearing the late-night (not yet was it nite) radio give me Doug Carn stuff immediately followed by a deep-voiced commercial asking me have I been to Mister G's Motel?, so it's damn near impossible for me to listen to any of this Black Jazz stuff strictly as "objective music". Of course, mileages WILL vary. Still, many flaws and all, this whole thing still makes sense to me as a message that beats anything else being offered these days. If it's imperfect and still needs to be fixed up a lot more to get to where it oughtacould be, oh well. How much in life that is worth doing is NOT like that? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9pZoRhRQA4
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Accepted, yes, finally, but only after a generation or two later realized that maybe OOPS we threw the very wonderful baby out with the rancid-pissy bathwater, and where did we put that bathtub anyway, now that we could use the water? As far as jazz turning into not-jazz, well, yeah, and two things - 1. I'd like to think of "jazz" a ultimately being more about a mindset than a system (if that's truly possible, and it's a belief I'm willing to invest in that it is, although no way can I ever really know it), and 2, thus the whole Nicholas Payton BAM thing, because even though as a literal racial thing, hey, maybe not, but as a concept that allows for an expansion of collective awareness and possibilities instead of a compartmentalized/curated breakdown of them, not a particularly wrongly played notion, only that 3 (Bonus Thing!), we done been there SEVERAL generations ago, and as a forward thinking movement, not a backwards looking do-over of the last backwards looking do-over that declared that it was all A Thing Gone Wrong, All Off It, The Fusion And The Free Both. Although, I'm all down with not Running In Horror from somebody wanting to bring Dilla/Etc into the mix because it's What I Know At Least As Much As Anything Else Going In But I'd Like To Not Just STOP There. OK?, so if the BAM thing can do that, then good, although yet again, M-Base, please, and talk about abortional fratricide, well, there. And yet, Steve Coleman Lives, if in France and not New York.
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It's a little late to be Christmas, but it's never to late to be Joe!
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Seems to be a lot of contemplation about the whole "role of the closer" thing going on now, like, if we bring him in for an out or two in the eighth, will he still have it for the ninth? And/or. well, we got a fire we need putting out right NOW in the 7th, but let's save our best guy until we possibly blow this thing and then don't need him at all? This appears to be one of those times in baseball evolution where the window is open for That One Guy to come along that completely changes the "conventional wisdom" and then everybody else sees how, DUH, yeah, it's obvious that THAT'S the way to do it. At least until somebody else redefines it yet again. In the meantime, the whole "role" thing is really boring, but when it works, it's a beautiful thing to see, at least when it happens to your guys (and gals!). And when it doesn't work, is it really anything other than a pitcher who doesn't make the pitches consistently enough ends up getting burned, so, yeah, make those pitches and all will be well. Is it really any more complicated than that, at least as much as anything can be not really any more complicated than that?
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It needs wheels and a motor if it wants to get my vote.
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I suppose, but what about the continued relevance of what happened before all that? Stuff that only a relatively few people know about, as well as the probably-happened stuff before that that nobody knows about any more because it just stopped surviving, either organically or malevolently? And some point, the number of people who find relevance reaches a tipping point, and after that, sooner or later, it disappears. And it probably should. Our current technology allows for the postponing of the inevitable, but it also allows for the tyranny of "forced" and/or "presumed" relevance. I mean, we're not even 500 years removed from Bach, barely 400. That's really not that long of a time. But my question was more, why would a young person in the mid-late 1960s feel compelled to find other avenues for expression outside of the "tradition" and nowadays it seems like the young players want nothing more than to get smack-dab in the middle of that same tradition? I mean, there's a whole industry in encouraging people's notions of what not to play. What's changed?
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So when nothing from nothing leaves nothing, we're there, right? Not sure if there is where I want to be.
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The Devil's Advocate question is why would anybody from after their generation want to play it either? Whatever the answer is, it ain't "comforting"! Or is it?
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"Sounds like shit" comes better into focus now, as "fluffy pieces with ragged edges" sounds like at least two bands I've played in. Also learned about FODMAPs...I now fear Galactans.
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So..on another segment of this Food Hospital show (which must originate in England, b/c of the accents and the totally bizarre on-screen spelling of diarrhea (they found a way to put an "o" in there somewhere), I have now also been introduced to the Bristol Stool Chart: Speaking of excuses, I don't think I have a really good one for watching this show. Can I hs Condition Medicine for that plz?
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Exactly.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthorexia_nervosa Saw the subject brought up on Food Hospital, some time-eater on Cooking Channel. some guy was getting stressed b/c he only wanted to eat local and organic, and, wow, that was not always an option, or, it seemed to me, a truly consistent desire on his part (well, I guess one hamburger won't kill me, he said, or something like that, so, yeah, no it won't...the rest is up to you). Anyway, apparently we now have another condition with which to be concerned. The more conditions we identify, the more conditions we can cure (or at the very least medicate), and the better the species will evolve going forth. Right?
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Sonship Woody Theus Little Man In the Boat The Ty-D-Bol Man http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPPBnciNAqI
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